President Elon Musk

President Elon Musk

He probably deserves his own thread at this point, discuss accordingly

21 December 2024 at 02:21 PM
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**** italy


by tame_deuces

North Korea abolished income tax in 1974. Just saying.

No wonder Trump loves them.


Has Luciom explained yet how his rights and his family's rights have been violated for decades? (Luciom, I obviously am not asking for granular detail that would require you to effectively disclose your identity.)


by Rococo

Has Luciom explained yet how his rights and his family's rights have been violated for decades? (Luciom, I obviously am not asking for granular detail that would require you to effectively disclose your identity.)

He’s just another hardcore libertarian that thinks any level of taxation or regulation that he doesn’t like is a war crime on his personal rights but that banning trans kids from collegiate sports is fine because “national champions” need to have standards set by the federal government.

Not that complicated


by GTO2.0

He’s just another hardcore libertarian that thinks any level of taxation or regulation that he doesn’t like is a war crime on his personal rights but that banning trans kids from collegiate sports is fine because “national champions” need to have standards set by the federal government.

Not that complicated

He calls himself a libertarian, but he hates freedom.


Agencies pledging efficiency to DOGE is starting to look like the production levels that localities pledged during the cultural revolution. A cult is a cult I guess.


by Rococo

Has Luciom explained yet how his rights and his family's rights have been violated for decades? (Luciom, I obviously am not asking for granular detail that would require you to effectively disclose your identity.)

Aside from the COVID disaster (that alone is more than enough), for the past, in Italy, taxation was a lot higher than any moral threshold could consider acceptable at least from where I sit.

But it's not only that, economic freedom (the most important set of freedoms by a large margin, because you need resources to be free in other aspects of your life) was kneecapped completly everywhere in Italy.

Basically I already lived through what democrat supporters in this forum would love to see the USA become and it's a disgusting horror show (that yes includes organized crime becoming powerful because there is more money to make in defying the state)


by GTO2.0

He’s just another hardcore libertarian that thinks any level of taxation or regulation that he doesn’t like is a war crime on his personal rights but that banning trans kids from collegiate sports is fine because “national champions” need to have standards set by the federal government.

Not that complicated

Trans kids aren't banned from collegiate sports and I don't think they should be banned at all from collegiate sports (or any other sports).

You might be confusing the fact that I want people with dicks to play sports with other people with dicks with "banning" which is utter nonsense.


Pretty sure lucio lives in southern Italy which is basically like backwoods Alabama.

North Italy is diverse and drives incredible amounts of innovation and GDP growth while south italy is all old world Italians getting drunk at 11 am and living off the dole

They despise the liberal North despite the North being the only reason Italy is a viable country, a lot like hicks in the US hate California.

It would explain his ass backwards world view on everything


by coordi

Pretty sure lucio lives in southern Italy which is basically like backwoods Alabama.North Italy is diverse and drives incredible amounts of innovation and GDP growth while south italy is all old world Italians getting drunk at 11 am and living off the doleThey despise the liberal North despite the North being the only reason Italy is a viable country, a lot like hicks in the US

I live (and I am from) in northern Italy , Bologna to be precise. I would love to secede from the center-south parasites, we would be a Switzerland with better food and culture and women and weather.


by Luciom

In italy until we very recently created a formula that taxes "reasonably" (but only under 85k), effective tax rate for the self employed was over 60%. 28-30 payroll + 43-45 income.I repeatedly said the best way would be late 19th century USA, pre income tax amendmentIf you are a lawyer RIGHT NOW , self employed (typical in Italy) and earn 150k per year after expenses, you pay l

So you would have 60k left to survive?
That sounds pretty good no?


by microbet

He calls himself a libertarian, but he hates freedom.

Who knew the price for freedom is actually freedom


by weeeez

So you would have 60k left to survive?
That sounds pretty good no?

So we went from "nobody pays 60%+ effective tax rates" to "well yes that happens but then you are left with enough money to survive anyway so what"


by Luciom

I live (and I am from) in northern Italy , Bologna to be precise. I would love to secede from the center-south parasites, we would be a Switzerland with better food and culture and women and weather.

1st is entirely subjective and I thought warm weather was nice?


by Luciom

So we went from "nobody pays 60%+ effective tax rates" to "well yes that happens but then you are left with enough money to survive anyway so what"

didn't read honey


by weeeez

1st is entirely subjective and I thought warm weather was nice?

Warm is nice, 45 Celsius in the summer like in Sicily isn't


by coordi

Pretty sure lucio lives in southern Italy which is basically like backwoods Alabama.North Italy is diverse and drives incredible amounts of innovation and GDP growth while south italy is all old world Italians getting drunk at 11 am and living off the doleThey despise the liberal North despite the North being the only reason Italy is a viable country, a lot like hicks in the US

i'll tell you what it is


by coordi

Pretty sure lucio lives in southern Italy which is basically like backwoods Alabama.North Italy is diverse and drives incredible amounts of innovation and GDP growth while south italy is all old world Italians getting drunk at 11 am and living off the doleThey despise the liberal North despite the North being the only reason Italy is a viable country, a lot like hicks in the US

He's from the north where the Italians have blonde hair and blue eyes, identifies more with Germans and Austrians, and he has the racial theories to go along with it.


by Luciom

Warm is nice, 45 Celsius in the summer like in Sicily isn't

But you said it’s better warm weather then cold because cold kill more then hot temperature ?
45 Celsius seems great , u see no problem with it when it’s other countries that have it because u now -> climate change is great .


by Luciom

Trans kids aren't banned from collegiate sports and I don't think they should be banned at all from collegiate sports (or any other sports).

You might be confusing the fact that I want people with dicks to play sports with other people with dicks with "banning" which is utter nonsense.

I honestly don’t care either way about the issue, and think it’s been ginned up out of nothing.

I’m just pointing out that you’re ok with the government stepping in for this ridiculously minimal topic while claiming to hate all government intervention whatsoever.


by Luciom

So we went from "nobody pays 60%+ effective tax rates" to "well yes that happens but then you are left with enough money to survive anyway so what"

So it’s a not a progressive tax ?
You pay 60% tax from the start ?
So rich pay far more tax then regular people ?



This is your king?


14 kids with how many baby mamas!? That proves he is a loon.


by StoppedRainingMen

This is your king

Did he do a mini Britanny Speers?


by Luciom

Aside from the COVID disaster (that alone is more than enough), for the past, in Italy, taxation was a lot higher than any moral threshold could consider acceptable at least from where I sit.But it's not only that, economic freedom (the most important set of freedoms by a large margin, because you need resources to be free in other aspects of your life) was kneecapped completly

Pretty sure Italy has had a problem with organized crime since before there was an Italian state. I don't hear about much organized crime in Norway.

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