Donald J. Trump (For everyone else)
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
which was a disastrous mistake.
and healthcare workers were so occupied with mass cases of COVID they managed to stage organized dances and record them for the world to see how much work they had to do.
Ah yes those selfish freeloading oppressive lying healthcare workers at it again.
Let me just say a hearty **** you for this one.
Meanwhile, the Mango Mussolini embarrasses himself again.
Trump whines about who signed deal to allow Canada to supply energy to the US – it was him
The decision to maintain the free flow of energy across the borders was part of the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement negotiated by Trump
President Donald Trump took to social media to whine about who negotiated a deal allowing Canada to supply energy to the U.S. — but, it turns out, he made the deal.
Amidst the trade tariffs back-and-forth with Canada and Ontario Premier Doug Ford, who suspended the province’s 25 percent electricity surcharge on three U.S. states Tuesday, Trump fumed on Truth Social: “Why would our Country allow another Country to supply us with electricity, even for a small area?”
“Who made these decisions, and why?” the president demanded.
The decision to maintain the free flow of energy across the borders was part of the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement and negotiated by Trump in November 2018 during his first term. It was signed into law in January 2020.
From a political philosophy thread in 2017 where Luciom is more or less arguing for immigration of Syrian refugees into Germany. I am thinking that COVID broke his brain.
The Luciom of today is like 1 crime committed by a Syrian refugee means you have to murder every Syrian. The Luciom of 2017 was like 60K? How much of an increase was that?
I wish we could all agree to just put this POS on ignore and never respond to him again.
Go to unstuckpolitics.com where anyone like Luciom or even close is banned. Thing is, people actually like to argue with each other and see what the crazy fascists think without having to know them irl.
Luciom I appreciate that you are always willing to engage and sometimes have an interesting perspective. I don't get why you always jump into this antiscience and healthcare bullshit. What's the logic that leads you to believe that all of these covid policies have any malicious intent? It's pretty obvious to me that they have clear reasoning and were done to save lives. None of these led to sustained "power grabs" or "left wing authoritarianism". If anything they took a huge political hit to try
the bold I can answer fully for Italy, it's less obvious for other places, and it wasn't all malice necessarily everywhere (but when you break the dam of unalienable rights, even if you don't necessarily intend to do great harm, you always end up doing it).
our ministry of health during the first COVID lockdown was the leftmost member of government (basically the only slot given to the radical leftist small party that was part of the coalition). he was there because he was a healthcare politician previously in some random small southern Italy city, and in Italy nowadays that ministry isn't very important since we changed our constitution to give healthcare management (and the big money that come from it) to the regions like 20 years ago.
*except* we kept laws and constitutional exceptional provisions in case of emergency to bring back healthcare to the national stage in rare cases.
so he was basically a random Marxist placeholder doing nothing till COVID came.
with COVID he saw a generational opportunity to change society toward radical leftist ideals, and he ****ing actually wrote a book about it, which he then removed from circulation 6-9 months afterwards because of a huge backlash.
in that book he went full Gramsci with "the left can regain it's hegemony with this emergency". that's an actual ****ing literal quote from the book.
basic the outlined how all decision making was going to be based on the ideal of getting society to socialism, so he was particularly happy to be allowed to decide what was essential and what wasn't in order to choose what to close down for example. the dream of any socialist/Marxist is to plan the economy right? he actually had that power under lockdowns.
and keep in mind we did the insane, fully anti scientific, against-all-literature lockdowns first in the west (after only China). and our government at the time was the most pro-china gvmnt the west ever had (we even signed the silk and road initiative, alone among western countries).
so you have this Marxist minister, of a government that is super friendly with Marxist china, doing something that has absolutely no historical precedent and all literature against, telling you in a ****ing book he is doing this so the left can regain an hegemony, AND YOU ASK ME WHY I PRESUME A FULLY MALICIOUS INTENT?
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I am offended by the "anti science" comment especially given I listed several very significant instances of large scale scientific fraud with real life repercussions to you and you didn't address that.
From a political philosophy thread in 2017 where Luciom is more or less arguing for immigration of Syrian refugees into Germany. I am thinking that COVID broke his brain.
The Luciom of today is like 1 crime committed by a Syrian refugee means you have to murder every Syrian. The Luciom of 2017 was like 60K? How much of an increase was that?
I mean he's arguing to do it so you can distract them from pursuing labor rights or other social causes so its not totally off brand. Now he would have his cake and eat it too tho.
CA: A bunch of retail closed and people shifted to work at home.
nothing else happened. LOL "LOCKED DOWN". It took a simple letter to qualify as 'Essential Personal'. I worked the entire time. BEST BAY AREA TRAFFIC SINCE I WAS A KID.
Most people in the bay area took advantage of the opportunity to remodel.
LOL Lil Mussolini
tell me you don't have school aged children nor anyone you care about does without telling me it
I mean he's arguing to do it so you can distract them from pursuing labor rights or other social causes so its not totally off brand. Now he would have his cake and eat it too tho.
It's not like he did a complete 180, and he described himself as a right wing liberal in that thread, but he's quite different then the Luciom of today.
From a political philosophy thread in 2017 where Luciom is more or less arguing for immigration of Syrian refugees into Germany. I am thinking that COVID broke his brain.
The Luciom of today is like 1 crime committed by a Syrian refugee means you have to murder every Syrian. The Luciom of 2017 was like 60K? How much of an increase was that?
I think at the time I was convinced about the false narrative that Merkel had managed to take in mostly the educated part of society which was fleeing from Syria. we later discovered she also took in a significant portion of unemployable people.
but they were half men half women anyway which is very important.
keep in mind that I currently am not against Ukrainian refugees flooding Europe , working age, fairly well educated, and more women than men is a very decent demography to take it.
not sure why you think that post is very different from what I would write today.
oh at the time I also hadn't understood yet how disastrous closing nuclear was (because she had started closing it but it hadn't actually happened yet for the most part)
tell me you don't have school aged children nor anyone you care about does without telling me it
Closures sucked for one of my kids and worked out pretty well for the other. Aside from being bad for one kid the closures were good for me. That kid was home a lot which was nice...for me...but she missed out on a lot and I would certainly have had her go to school if possible.
I mean, not to brag, it's a low threshold, but that's what honesty looks like. I don't have feelings that are exactly one way or the other 100% about it. You could try the same kind of thing instead of that nonsense about hospital beds you were on about.
It's not like he did a complete 180, and he described himself as a right wing liberal in that thread, but he's quite different then the Luciom of today.
but yes COVID changed me in a radicalization sense.
I went from I have right-wing libertarian tendencies and I think I can work within the system to move society a bit toward my goals, because we are in liberal democracies where fundamental rights are respected so i would be fine anyway, to "there are a lot of people and sometimes the majority who are complete moral monsters with no limits that attempt to destroy everything I care about in life and there is no way ever we could possibly fix this peacefully".
I got the proof society is full of actual irredeemable monsters
I think at the time I was convinced about the false narrative that Merkel had managed to take in mostly the educated part of society which was fleeing from Syria. we later discovered she also took in a significant portion of unemployable people.
but they were half men half women anyway which is very important.
keep in mind that I currently am not against Ukrainian refugees flooding Europe , working age, fairly well educated, and more women than men is a very decent demography to take it.
not sure w
Dude, I've done enough searching for now, but I've seen the new Luciom lose his **** about how one single crime committed by a refugee should not be tolerated and there you were being reasonable. In that thread earlier you were talking about how your Bolony city pioneered immigration being great.
Closures sucked for one of my kids and worked out pretty well for the other. Aside from being bad for one kid the closures were good for me. That kid was home a lot which was nice...for me...but she missed out on a lot and I would certainly have had her go to school if possible.
I mean, not to brag, it's a low threshold, but that's what honesty looks like. I don't have feelings that are exactly one way or the other 100% about it. You could try the same kind of thing instead of that nonsense a
my grandpa died in isolation OF THIRST (renal failure) because he was demented, hospitalized for COVID (pretty sure that was counted as a COVID death), the dancing healthcare professionals didn't gave a ****, and it's the kind of situation where Italians would stay near the bed (or pay people to) most hours to push him to drink water but we weren't allowed by your friends regulations.
and after that, only 3 of use were allowed to be present at the burial in the monumental cemetery.
I will never forgive or forget
but yes COVID changed me in a radicalization sense.
I went from I have right-wing libertarian tendencies and I think I can work within the system to move society a bit toward my goals, because we are in liberal democracies where fundamental rights are respected so i would be fine anyway, to "there are a lot of people and sometimes the majority who are complete moral monsters with no limits that attempt to destroy everything I care about in life and there is no way ever we could possibly fix this
You talk like your brain is broken now.
A lot of people, on both sides, got their brains broken over COVID. Some feel like you do, some were just as broken over the anti-maskers and I guess just learning what selfish and destructive pricks people can be.
Dude, I've done enough searching for now, but I've seen the new Luciom lose his **** about how one single crime committed by a refugee should not be tolerated and there you were being reasonable. In that thread earlier you were talking about how your Bolony city pioneered immigration being great.
maybe you missed the 163628824 times ever after COVID I have written in favour of qualified skilled immigration.
even very recently in the H1B debate inside the right I was 100% in favour of the pro H1B crowd (and the "let's give green cards to anyone who graduates in STEM in the USA" proposal).
my grandpa died in isolation OF THIRST (renal failure) because he was demented, hospitalized for COVID (pretty sure that was counted as a COVID death), the dancing healthcare professionals didn't gave a ****, and it's the kind of situation where Italians would stay near the bed (or pay people to) most hours to push him to drink water but we weren't allowed by your friends regulations.
and after that, only 3 of use were allowed to be present at the burial in the monumental cemetery.
I will never fo
And there are people with stories about how their friends or family didn’t take covid seriously, thought it was a hoax, and ended up dying, hospitalized, or with long term conditions. Which anecdote do you think is more common?
my grandpa died in isolation OF THIRST (renal failure) because he was demented, hospitalized for COVID (pretty sure that was counted as a COVID death), the dancing healthcare professionals didn't gave a ****, and it's the kind of situation where Italians would stay near the bed (or pay people to) most hours to push him to drink water but we weren't allowed by your friends regulations.
and after that, only 3 of use were allowed to be present at the burial in the monumental cemetery.
I will never fo
There was a similar situation in my family. My m-in-law's husband broke his hip and hit his head and had a brain injury. He was in the hospital for a week having no idea what was going on, literally thinking he was kidnapped, and they wouldn't let his family see him. When he was released he went home and I did a bunch of night duty at his house for the next few weeks until he died.
And there are people with stories about how their friends or family didn’t take covid seriously, thought it was a hoax, and ended up dying, hospitalized, or with long term conditions. Which anecdote do you think is more common?
their deaths wasn't caused by other people violently imposing their choices upon them.
anyone could fully self isolate if he wanted.
you realize the fundamental moral difference between omission and action?
between "not sacrificing for you" and "violently forcing you "?
no one has any moral duty to ever sacrifice anything for strangers
maybe you missed the 163628824 times ever after COVID I have written in favour of qualified skilled immigration.
even very recently in the H1B debate inside the right I was 100% in favour of the pro H1B crowd (and the "let's give green cards to anyone who graduates in STEM in the USA" proposal).
From the hospital bed discussion among other things, I know that you'll never admit to being wrong, but the Syrian refugees into Germany was not like the H1B debate. Those were posts, not just that one, but all your posts in that thread, that you would not make today.
their deaths wasn't caused by other people violently imposing their choices upon them.
anyone could fully self isolate if he wanted.
you realize the fundamental moral difference between omission and action?
between "not sacrificing for you" and "violently forcing you "?
no one has any moral duty to ever sacrifice anything for strangers
I can see some similarities in the language in that old post of yours.
Seems like you love throwing around ''moral'' this , '' moral '' that.
We went from moral positive to be in the center to far right ideology in a few years.
