Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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And the US is recognised as a legitimate state today, even if it engaged in genocide against Native Americans and enslaved black people. Lots of nations have unsavoury histories too. They're still recognised as nations. Again only Israel seems to be the exception to the rule. I wonder why.
Israel isn't recognized as a nation? WTF are you babbling about here? The "exception to the rule" is Palestine, which isn't a recognized member of the UN like Israel is and apparently doesn't have the right to exist for reasons that definitely aren't super racist.
Israel isn't recognized as a nation? WTF are you babbling about here? The "exception to the rule" is Palestine, which isn't a recognized member of the UN like Israel is and apparently doesn't have the right to exist for reasons that definitely aren't super racist.
Israel's legitimacy as a nation- its very right to exist- is consistently challenged, as well you know. America's right to exist isn't. Or Ireland's. Just Israel. Always. Since its existence. "Palestine" could have existed long ago, as I've already pointed out to you several times.
Israel's legitimacy as a nation- its very right to exist- is consistently challenged.
Good. So was apartheid South Africa's.
"Palestine" could have existed long ago
Horseshit.
Israel's legitimacy as a nation- its very right to exist- is consistently challenged, as well you know.
It's a recognized member of the UN, WTF are you going on about?
He recalled that "war is always a defeat" and highlighted that those who profit from these tragedies are arms manufacturers.
Please, asked the Pope, "let us pray for peace", before reiterating that his appeal goes to "martryed Ukraine" which "suffers so much" and where "young soldiers go to die."
Likewise, he continued, we must pray for the Middle East, and in particular for Gaza: "It suffers so much," said the Pope.
Finally, the Pope prayed for peace between Palestine and Israel, "that they may be two states, free and with good relations."
"Let us pray for peace," he concluded.
When the Pope calls for a two state solution he’s celebrated as a champion of Gaza.
When I call for a two state solution I’m called a genocidal zionist.
Amazing.
call me Santa Claus if you want. both are equally real.
That's not how ethnic or racial prejudice functions. If you actually do something terrible and people report it because it is terrible, that's not racism to report it.
Do you go around thinking that people cannot be accused of crimes if those sharing their ethnicity have ever been falsely accused of those crimes?
You're deliberately misunderstanding me, due to you being a piss poor troll. I never said it wasn't recognised as a nation by the UN, I said its right to exist is constantly challenged, in general so again, you know where you can stick your strawman.
Israel do have a right to exist regardless of your bullshit and Israel will continue to exist long after you and the rest of your anti Semitic ilk are wormfood. Deal with it or cry more.
do you think it will exist for 1000 years?
oh I just thought of a good slogan: one thousand year...
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You're deliberately misunderstanding me, due to you being a piss poor troll. I never said it wasn't recognised as a nation by the UN, I said its right to exist is constantly challenged.
Which is patent nonsense. Israel is clearly recognized by the international community, it has the unquestioning support of the largest military force in human history. Pretending that "its right to exist is constantly challenged" is overt dishonesty. It's just something authoritarians parrot out to justify warcrimes in the same way Hitler claimed Poland was a threat to Germany's existence.
Which is patent nonsense. Israel is clearly recognized by the international community, it has the unquestioning support of the largest military force in human history. Pretending that "its right to exist is constantly challenged" is overt dishonesty. It's just something authoritarians parrot out to justify warcrimes in the same way Hitler claimed Poland was a threat to Germany'
You are using the word "challenged" differently than Corpus. He is saying numerous nations and paramilitary groups, mostly Islamist, are constantly promising to destroy Israel. In your mind this doesn't matter as long as they dont have the current capabilities to do so.
Of course you know all this, and this is just an exercise in bad faith trolling on your part.
I do love how your basic worldview is, "Islamists cant currently do much of the bad stuff they promise to do, so we should just ignore everything they are saying and accommodate them."
Of course this worldview requires one to ignore all the bad stuff they are doing around the world where they can (see India yesterday and the Sahel pretty much any day), and/or just blame it all on the Jews a la Victor.
the bad stuff that Hamas wants to do is a 2 state solution with the right of return. but as they always say, to the oppressor equality feels like oppression.
Which is patent nonsense. Israel is clearly recognized by the international community, it has the unquestioning support of the largest military force in human history. Pretending that "its right to exist is constantly challenged" is overt dishonesty. It's just something authoritarians parrot out to justify warcrimes in the same way Hitler claimed Poland was a threat to Germany'
I haven't justified any war crimes and you're not doing your argument any favours with Hitler comparisons either.
I haven't justified any war crimes and you're not doing your argument any favours with Hitler comparisons either.
At what point do Hitler comparisons become valid in your opinion? A million Gazans dead? Every Gazan exterminated? Never?
