Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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False accusations of genocide to go with the Nazi comparison, you certainly are on a roll vic.
You can critique without engaging in known anti Semitic tropes, such as Hitler comparisons.
So ….never?
the bad stuff that Hamas wants to do is a 2 state solution with the right of return. but as they always say, to the oppressor equality feels like oppression.
Victor why don’t you give up your stolen land to the indigenous? There’s not a piece of land in this country that you would be able to occupy if the ridiculous “right of return” was applied to the US.
Oh that’s right, when it comes to the US victor is an avowed genocider by his own standards.
Victor why don’t you give up your stolen land to the indigenous? There’s not a piece of land in this country that you would be able to occupy if the ridiculous “right of return” was applied to the US.
Oh that’s right, when it comes to the US victor is an avowed genocider by his own standards.
you are so close to getting it. ofc, you will never understand. Ill spell it out for the umpteenth time bc I am a nice guy. the creation of the USA was a genocidal crime and it should not be repeated. the whole idea is to stop the mass murder of millions of people and destruction of their land so that White Empire can make money.
it will probably still happen and the Israeli Jews will probably get away with it and in 200 years they will be in the same position as myself. a genocidal country built on a graveyard of natives.
"When I see news reports of tens of thousands of civilians killed, followed by determinations of highest international courts that those killings constitute a genocide, I say no. I say no genocide happened unless I, who knows nothing about legal definitions or history or criminology, say it happened."
you are so close to getting it. ofc, you will never understand. Ill spell it out for the umpteenth time bc I am a nice guy. the creation of the USA was a genocidal crime and it should not be repeated. the whole idea is to stop the mass murder of millions of people and destruction of their land so that White Empire can make money.it will probably still happen and the Israeli
So give up your land Victor. What’s stopping you? How is the same argument you are making about the past being the past not applicable to current day Israel? You know as well as I do that the idea of kicking Israelis out of their home for something their great grandparents did or even more likely what someone else’s great grandparents did is not feasible.
Nice to know that you support the illegal West Bank, Jerusalem, Syrian, and Lebanese settlements. If might makes right then I will always support the might of the oppressed to turn the tables on genocidal maniacs.
Or they could just **** off back the 67 borders, pay reparations, allow right of return, and at this point prosecute all of the war criminals.
How is the same argument you are making about the past being the past not applicable to current day Israel?
Because it is ongoing.
Nice to know that you support the illegal West Bank, Jerusalem, Syrian, and Lebanese settlements. If might makes right then I will always support the might of the oppressed to turn the tables on genocidal maniacs.
Or they could just **** off back the 67 borders, pay reparations, allow right of return, and at this point prosecute all of the war criminals.
After WWII significantly more Mizrachi Jews than Palestinians were kicked off their land. I would guess Israeli Jews will be magnanimous and call it even for the most part. But in the case of reparations, Jews had SIGNIFICANTLY more land/property stolen. Probably 10x more, if not 100x.
So significant reparations should be paid to the descendants of Mizrachi Jews from the nations that stole their land/property. And then some of this can go to Palestinians.
After WWII significantly more Mizrachi Jews than Palestinians were kicked off their land. I would guess Israeli Jews will be magnanimous and call it even for the most part. But in the case of reparations, Jews had SIGNIFICANTLY more land/property stolen. Probably 10x more, if not 100x. So significant reparations should be paid to the descendants of Mizrachi Jews from the na
you are gonna need to walk me through why the Palestinians should pay for stuff that happened in Algeria Iraq Iran Tunisia and all the other places that Jews left.
I might try this with the bank next time I owe mortgage money. I will say, hey my old college roommate (an Arab btw) still owes me a couple grand. Ill pay you guys when I get paid by him. seems totally fine and fair.
you are gonna need to walk me through why the Palestinians should pay for stuff that happened in Algeria Iraq Iran Tunisia and all the other places that Jews left.
For the same reason that all the Mizrachi Jews were collectively punished. This part of the world is tribal, zero sum and cruel. It just is what it is.
Be thankful that Europe was able to stop and repel the Islamic conquerors and colonizers when they did, so that the Western world could develop a more ethical way of being.
"When I see news reports of tens of thousands of civilians killed, followed by determinations of highest international courts that those killings constitute a genocide, I say no. I say no genocide happened unless I, who knows nothing about legal definitions or history or criminology, say it happened."
What court?
Please correct me on some technicality and, in so doing, talk a lot about what the court actually said about Israel.
Be thankful that Europe was able to stop and repel the Islamic conquerors and colonizers when they did, so that the Western world could develop a more ethical way of being.
Are you so sure of that? Isn't Belgium supposed to be majority Muslim in the not so distant future?
Are you so sure of that? Isn't Belgium supposed to be majority Muslim in the not so distant future?
Well, at the least they stopped them long enough to give Europe a 600-700 year reprieve to do some interesting things. You are correct the European elites of today seem to think post WWII Lebanon worked out so well, they want something similar for their own continent.
Well, at the least they stopped them long enough to give Europe a 600-700 year reprieve to do some interesting things. You are correct the European elites of today seem to think post WWII Lebanon worked out so well, they want something similar for their own continent.
one of the things they did just a few hours ago was blow up a bunch of civilians so we can see a crying toddler alongside another child literally cut in half with just his chest and head sitting upright and various other body parts all over the rooftop. Europeans have been mass murders of indigenous children for centuries and now they have enlisted their Israeli proxies to continue the tradition.
Be thankful that Europe was able to stop and repel the Islamic conquerors and colonizers when they did, so that the Western world could develop a more ethical way of being.
This is comically brainless. The Christian West produced two world wars and a Holocaust. Many genocides, including Congo, Islam has done nothing that compares.
Most of the West's early learning CAME from the Arab world.
It's also likely that the Rwanda massacres wouldn't have happened if it hadn't been a colony of the West.
