Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

Think this merits its own thread...

Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.

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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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by Bill Haywood

Such a lame response. You don't have any source of any sort on Hamas' current caloric intake.

they are still alive so it is too high, that is my source.


bombing hospitals and killing journalists. this what Israel will be forever known for long after their genocidal rape colony is dismantled.


by grizy

Yes, we should have condemned the expulsion of Greeks from Istanbul (and Turkey more broadly) for sure. But that ship has sailed.As it would have sailed in Israel decades ago if not for Iranian and Arab intervention to sustain the most extreme elements of Palestinian resistance.That constant whataboutism is unhelpful to the discussion. The solution was, is, and always will be t

I think you are drastically undercounting the influence of all the Gulf Arab money that is being thrown at Western leaders and institutions to bribe them to go along with the plan of indefinite resistance. And I dont really see any reason they will ever tire of it. It isn't costing them much of anything in the grand scheme.

The $400 million plane gifted to Trump is the tiniest tip of a giant iceberg of billions upon billons. Even if Israel was inclined to go it alone I dont think the world would let them. The rest of the world is perfectly fine with the status quo, and mostly indifferent to their own complicity in the human suffering.


It will only add to the tragedy to see all the excuses made for Israel having turned so many against them.

Anything but the fact that Netanyahu has done so much serious damage to israel


Damage supported by a large majority of Israelis. It’s self harm, the result of excessive nationalism and racism.




by jalfrezi

Damage supported by a large majority of Israelis. It’s self harm, the result of excessive nationalism and racism.

Easy for you to say from your position of safety.


yes its quite easy for me to not support burning children alive and bombing hospitals and doing mass rape. ya know, bc I am not a genocidal Supremacist.


by corpus vile

Easy for you to say from your position of safety.

I've lived in London for 50 years. It wasn't always completely safe, you know.


by jalfrezi

I've lived in London for 50 years. It wasn't always completely safe, you know.

It's not exactly under an existential threat or bordering several countries which would love to see its annihilation through is it? Like I said it's very easy to make pat presumptions when speaking from a position of relative safety/comfort.


Gee I wonder why Israel's neighbors want it gone. Can't imagine any reason at all. Proly just hate Jews or something.


by corpus vile

It's not exactly under an existential threat or bordering several countries which would love to see its annihilation through is it? Like I said it's very easy to make pat presumptions when speaking from a position of relative safety/comfort.

Oh ok, so it’s relative safety now.


by Victor

Gee I wonder why Israel's neighbors want it gone. Can't imagine any reason at all. Proly just hate Jews or something.

Yes your last sentence sums it up adequately.


by jalfrezi

Oh ok, so it’s relative safety now.

Yes as you seemed determined to misunderstand me and throw context out the window so I decided to clarify so that even you could get it. Or maybe you simply hate Jews so will always deliberately choose to misunderstand due to your possible Jew hatred. Either that or you're simply thick and I'm hoping it's the latter

In terms of an existential threat London is far safer than Israel and there's no relative about it, so hopefully that clears things up for you. Or maybe it won't because Jews.


Or maybe your inability to empathise with brown skinned people and only with light skinned western Jews is at the root of a common problem you have with other racists. Maybe.

Even your own right wing government doesn't agree with you. Go and find a mirror.


by corpus vile

Yes your last sentence sums it up adequately.

Hitler died for your sins


by Bill Haywood

Such a lame response. You don't have any source of any sort on Hamas' current caloric intake.

Here is a picture from a funeral procession in the last couple days. All these fighting aged male "journalists" look healthy to me.



by jalfrezi

Or maybe your inability to empathise with brown skinned people and only with light skinned western Jews is at the root of a common problem you have with other racists. Maybe.

Even your own right wing government doesn't agree with you. Go and find a mirror.

Why do you keep insisting Palestinians are brown skinned people? That Palestinian neo Nazi that Kelhouse constantly links is whiter than I am. You really do seem to have that classical racist presumption that many far left liberals seem to have.
I didn't vote for my right wing government so don't gaf what they bleat.


The "journalist" that just got killed in the attack on the hospital



No such thing as a far left liberal. wtf are you babbling on about? You're coming across as badly as Luciom here, blaming his broken engine on Marxists and liberals.


by corpus vile

Why do you keep insisting Palestinians are brown skinned people? That Palestinian neo Nazi that Kelhouse constantly links is whiter than I am. You really do seem to have that classical racist presumption that many far left liberals seem to have.
I didn't vote for my right wing government so don't gaf what they bleat.

they desperately need to claim it's racism againt "brown skin" even if palestinians are white if they don't take much sun (they just tan quicker than norhtern europeans, like italians greeks turkish and so on do as well).

They need that because racism is still considered very wrong by normies, while a deep hatred of islamic terrorism is considered appropriate by normies, and so if it becomes the narrative that we hate Hamas because they are islamist terrorists (which is the actual case), then normal people *will agree* , simple as that.


by Luciom

The "journalist" that just got killed in the attack on the hospital

so what? would it be ok to kill all of the Biden and Trump and Bibi sycophant journalists? better yet, should we bomb them in hospitals killing other patients and staff?


by Victor

so what? would it be ok to kill all of the Biden and Trump and Bibi sycophant journalists? better yet, should we bomb them in hospitals killing other patients and staff?

FWIW Israel stated he was a member of Hamas and directly participated in 10/7. And it was a targeted strike that killed 2 people who were the targets. And no one seems to be disputing this (the targeted strike part)


Everyone knows Israelis are descended from Europeans and Americans mainly, which is why the likes of Euro racists like corpus identify strongly with them and turn a blind eye to decades of shelling and killing of Palestinians and conveniently choose to start the war clock in October 2023.


by jalfrezi

No such thing as a far left liberal. wtf are you babbling on about? You're coming across as badly as Luciom here, blaming his broken engine on Marxists and liberals.

There is such thing as a far left liberal, I'm retorting to one right now and again you have that patented racist presumption. Muslms are brown people ergo automatically victims who need white saviours like you to guide them and speak up for them. You really are a condescending patronising racist anti Semitic little bollix aren't you?

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