President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
Nice goalpost shift from, "I'm not saying all are sneaking in for nefarious purposes."
Tbh until one of these ‘come in legally or don’t come in at all’ *********** are willing to pick strawberries for dollars a day or work at a restaurant for probably half minimum wage etc etc etc I would advocate their deportation much sooner than I’d advocate some Home Depot dragnet for low hanging fruit
Even if you want to remove the morality of it all and look at it from a purely economic standpoint, only the stupidest ****ing morons would advocate ICE deporting everyone with a complete lack of understanding that tiny ass margins are because of them
I ****ing promise you undocumented immigrants work at mar a lago cuz dear leader is too ****ing cheap to pay people anything
I would assume most people are coming in for work. And I support efforts to gain control of the border and stopping cartels from human and drug smuggling. But I am extremely skeptical that raiding Home Depot parking lots and garment warehouses is the best way to go about this.But I am also not thrilled with minority communities and/or leftists using this as an excuse to comm
I’m not thrilled with those outcomes either, but I’m more not thrilled about the fact that these actions were expressly done as a retaliatory act to send a message and thus the social unrest that happened as a result was highly predictable if not morally grey.
As an instrumental concern though, people should probably not be spraypainting “Death to Amerikkka” and “No One Is Illegal On Stolen Land”, nor should they be waving the Mexican flag. The issue is that the decisions of one off individuals don’t actually change the general tenor of the protests, which have included upstanding members of the community. It indicates that there is a very real community standard that is being violated, and that community standard can be judged as pretty reasonable subjectively, at least I would defend it and so would many others.
But we’ll see if history judges these people as closer to the civil rights movement or closer to the pro-segregationist movement, both of which engaged in unlawful tactics to achieve their political ends.
Well, if you really wanted to stop illegal immigrants working in the US under the table, you would go after the large corporations that employ them. For example chicken and pork factories. However, the Trump administration is not going after these corporations at all, as they tend to support Trump.
As in most policy matters, the Trump administration is taking a clearly suboptimal path towards their alleged goal, because the actual goal is to attack his perceived political enemies and consolidate political power.
Yes. They come to America broke. They are off the grid. They can more easily get away with crimes. This knowledge is probably communicated to them by family and friends before they arrive. One of the biggest crimes is identity theft.
I’m not thrilled with those outcomes either, but I’m more not thrilled about the fact that these actions were expressly done as a retaliatory act to send a message and thus the social unrest that happened as a result was highly predictable if not morally grey.As an instrumental concern though, people should probably not be spraypainting “Death to Amerikkka” and “No One Is Illeg
What’s happening in LA is little more than the trump administration overreaching to see if they can get away with it which is literally all they’ve done since inauguration
5 months in pulling this bullshit and citing the insurrection act, if it works, is a ****ing damning precursor to what we’re gonna see for the next 4 years. This should be alarming everyone
I would assume most people are coming in for work. And I support efforts to gain control of the border and stopping cartels from human and drug smuggling. But I am extremely skeptical that raiding Home Depot parking lots and garment warehouses is the best way to go about this.But I am also not thrilled with minority communities and/or leftists using this as an excuse to comm
Like I said, build a perimeter and let these thugs burn down their neighborhood.
What’s happening in LA is little more than the trump administration overreaching to see if they can get away with it which is literally all they’ve done since inauguration
5 months in pulling this bullshit and citing the insurrection act, if it works, is a ****ing damning precursor to what we’re gonna see for the next 4 years. This should be alarming everyone
Well! Not all of us.
But we’ll see if history judges these people as closer to the civil rights movement or closer to the pro-segregationist movement, both of which engaged in unlawful tactics to achieve their political ends.
Well, I assume the desired playbook will be similar to what happened in the Pacific NW in 2020. Where the domestic terrorism was locally contained, lightly covered nationally, and everyone just ignored it and afterwards pretended it never happened. But this depends on how much Trump is willing to escalate.
Yes. They come to America broke. They are off the grid. They can more easily get away with crimes. This knowledge is probably communicated to them by family and friends before they arrive. One of the biggest crimes is identity theft.
The illegal immigrants that come here to commit crimes, yeah they'll be harder to find. We don't know what that percentage is though vs immigrants fleeing a country much worse than America to start a better life, and there's no way to figure that out.
What should happen is some kind of fast-track method of turning illegal immigrants into legal immigrants and allowing them to stay here. You're raising a family, don't have a criminal record, and are a plus to your community: here are your social security cards, whatever else you need, start paying taxes.
Admittedly I'm painting with broad brushstrokes, but as SRM said, gathering up every hard-working immigrant in a net with the criminals and jettisoning them out won't be good for America at all.
The illegal immigrants that come here to commit crimes, yeah they'll be harder to find. We don't know what that percentage is though vs immigrants fleeing a country much worse than America to start a better life, and there's no way to figure that out.What should happen is some kind of fast-track method of turning illegal immigrants into legal immigrants and allowing them to sta
This is the problem. We don't know who is here for good or for evil. We need to eliminate those in the shadows. If you are a net positive to the community you should be given an opportunity to stay. Unfortunately, this is so far out of hand that drastic measures are needed. There will be pain for a while. It must be communicated that if you come to the US illegally you will be arrested and deported.
This is the problem. We don't know who is here for good or for evil. We need to eliminate those in the shadows. If you are a net positive to the community you should be given an opportunity to stay. Unfortunately, this is so far out of hand that drastic measures are needed. There will be pain for a while. It must be communicated that if you come to the US illegally you will be
Do you even have a job or do you live on handouts from mommy and daddy?
Well, I assume the desired playbook will be similar to what happened in the Pacific NW in 2020. Where the domestic terrorism was locally contained, lightly covered nationally, and everyone just ignored it and afterwards pretended it never happened. But this depends on how much Trump is willing to escalate.
I don’t think I can qualify it as domestic terrorism at this point. I actually think the Tesla protests came closer to domestic terrorism than this did. These were mostly acts of civil disobedience that turned into conflict after an extended period of time. The goal was never to terrorize ICE agents but oppose them and send a message. I also imagine that no one that got arrested was surprised they were being arrested, nor did they want to escalate it beyond being arrested. If they did, they could have brought lethal weaponry. Throwing eggs at police is obviously arrest worthy but obviously not an attempt to kill anyone or terrorize anyone, moreso obstruct and annoy.
This is the problem. We don't know who is here for good or for evil. We need to eliminate those in the shadows. If you are a net positive to the community you should be given an opportunity to stay. Unfortunately, this is so far out of hand that drastic measures are needed. There will be pain for a while. It must be communicated that if you come to the US illegally you will be
Doesn’t the idea that if you are a net positive to the community you should be allowed to stay directly contradict the idea that there should be mass deportations? The contradiction being formed there is that if you are a net positive you should be allowed to stay and if you are a net positive you should not be allowed to stay.
This is the problem. We don't know who is here for good or for evil. We need to eliminate those in the shadows. If you are a net positive to the community you should be given an opportunity to stay. Unfortunately, this is so far out of hand that drastic measures are needed. There will be pain for a while. It must be communicated that if you come to the US illegally you will be
Immigrants, including undocmuented ones, as a whole, are a net positive for the economy, national security, and inflation.
They lead as caregivers, agri, construction, and a **** load of other labor gaps. They basically are the meat of accomplishing what every old school American wants in how the country operates on that front.
I've argued against open borders for obvious reasons and I wont go down that rabbit hole ever again, but there is a gap between having the capability to monitor the situation and realizing the benefits of accepting immigrants - even from a selfish standpoint.
Spending your life on camgirls and hookers isn't exactly being a net positive for your community.
The Occam razor explanation as to why they are burning Waymos is that they think they are Tesla cars
Well, if you really wanted to stop illegal immigrants working in the US under the table, you would go after the large corporations that employ them. For example chicken and pork factories. However, the Trump administration is not going after these corporations at all, as they tend to support Trump.As in most policy matters, the Trump administration is taking a clearly subopti
Yep. That about sums it up.
So I guess the next goosestep in the road is protesters being murdered by soldiers, to begin terrorising the population in earnest?
For which any soldiers will be pardoned, I would assume.
Sometimes you get the president you want, sometimes you get the president you need, and unfortunately, sometimes you get the president you deserve.
And anyone that voted for that fetid cockwomble - GG.
GL USA
Reporting camgirls if they are unable to speak English. Duh.
He works with ICE, not for ICE.
So I guess the next goosestep in the road is protesters being murdered by soldiers, to begin terrorising the population in earnest?
Police shooting journalists
British photographer injured by 'plastic bullet' in LA protests
needed surgery.
