President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
If someone wants to argue that Democrat politicians are almost as enthusiastic as Trump about actually deporting people, that's fine.
Trump is very different, however, in some important ways. First, he seemingly wants to foster hatred toward people who are in the country illegally. Second, he is willing to use illegal immigration as a pretext to justify increasing authoritarianism.
I'm sure you did, I meant "you" in terms of your fellow countryfolk.
but the overreach is sending in armed forces to assault protestors with rubber bullets and the such
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It's gone beyond protesting and has turned into rioting and looting and you're being a bit disingenuous here with your terminology, with all due respect. Now, that said he should have left it with the LAPD imo, rather than the armed forces as in National guard or army. Protesting is an absolute right and should never be met with force. Rioters and looters on the other hand should be batoned, tear gassed and fire-hosed off the streets.
The overreach is making a show of force of questionable legality along all chains of the justice system.
If that's happening in the sense that due process is being actually violated, then I agree. (and I'm aware of Kilmar Garcia btw, which has been rectified, I mean if it's still happening repeatedly or en masse)
If someone wants to argue that Democrat politicians are almost as enthusiastic as Trump about actually deporting people, that's fine.
Personally I have no problem with deportation of illegals. I'm aware of the context for what I reckon are the majority of illegals- people simply looking for a better life. Historically the Irish have always been a diaspora. As I stated my own sister was an illegal migrant and was simply looking to better herself, again like I reckon the majority of illegal migrants are. That said plenty of Irish came to America legally, which was a far more complicated and time consuming process than simply staying once your visa expired. But they still did it and played by the rules. My sister herself was under absolutely no illusion that had she have been caught, they'd have deported her ass back to not so sunny Ireland quicker than you can sing Rocky Road to Dublin
Trump is very different, however, in some important ways. First, he seemingly wants to foster hatred toward people who are in the country illegally. Second, he is willing to use illegal immigration as a pretext to justify increasing authoritarianism.
Yep, he is indeed an opportunistic narcissistic scumbag, who's pandered to white supremacists and these are pertinent issues for the American people.
But that's kinda a separate topic in itself. You will still always have US administrations and indeed pretty much every country's government deporting illegals/failed asylum seekers. Trump exploiting the issue for his own ends is again kinda a separate thing.
...the overreach is sending in armed forces to assault protestors with rubber bullets and the such...
That was the LAPD, under local authority, so not related to Trump's use of the military. (And they're not rubber bullets but 14mm sponge bullets. The old-school rubber bullet is a much larger calibre baton round, which is not supposed to be fired directly at the person, for fear of internal injuries, but made to cartwheel off the ground.)
That was the LAPD, under local authority, so not related to Trump's use of the military. (And they're not rubber bullets but 14mm sponge bullets. The old-school rubber bullet is a much larger calibre baton round, which is not supposed to be fired directly at the person, for fear of internal injuries, but made to cartwheel off the ground.)
MSM are saying rubber bullets actually, like that Aussie reporter who got shot
Imagine if mainstream media journalists all posted the same thing at the same time. What would Trump supporters think about that?
That was the LAPD, under local authority, so not related to Trump's use of the military. (And they're not rubber bullets but 14mm sponge bullets. The old-school rubber bullet is a much larger calibre baton round, which is not supposed to be fired directly at the person, for fear of internal injuries, but made to cartwheel off the ground.)
Trump is issuing National Guard into LA and they also sent additional agents to ****ing Minnesota
And no, its not sponge bullets, they are pelting people in the head with rubber bullets
My god you bootlickers are legitimately pathetic
"Well Trump is just deporting people like Obama, and these aren't protests they are riots, and the police are literally swabbing the rioters with sponges and the National Guard isn't really there, and and and"
pathetic
Imagine if mainstream media journalists all posted the same thing at the same time. What would Trump supporters think about that?
1. Looks like Poso was just a repost of Kirk's post.
2. Walsh actually had some originally material in his post, whose post may have been what prompted Kirk's post.
Its weird how every peaceful protest becomes a riot once you deploy storm troopers to disperse the organized crowd into teargas ladened chaos while firing rubber bullets indiscriminately
Trump is issuing National Guard into LA and they also sent additional agents to ****ing MinnesotaAnd no, its not sponge bullets, they are pelting people in the head with rubber bulletsMy god you bootlickers are legitimately pathetic"Well Trump is just deporting people like Obama, and these aren't protests they are riots, and the police are literally swabbing the rioters with sp
I myself would consider burning cars more in the "riot" category than "protest" category.
Its weird how every peaceful protest becomes a riot once you deploy storm troopers to disperse the organized crowd into teargas ladened chaos while firing rubber bullets indiscriminately
Except in L.A. a large "peaceful protest" is almost guaranteed to become a Loot-Fest at some point no matter what.
As I recall, the National Guard were never deployed when the "peaceful protests" lead to whole neighborhoods being burned down and/or looted in 2020 in some big cities around the country.
Peaceful protests are what I drive by quite literally every single day in Milwaukee on my way to work when I pass the Dept of Homeland Security office on Knapp St. People on the sidewalk marching around in circles with signs and a megaphone.
LA was not a peaceful protest, or the cops wouldn't have been required in the first place.
You continually spouting off that breaking windows, lighting cars on fire, and impeding the travel of hundreds of thousands of citizens who only want to go about their day is "peaceful" will just make you and your entire cause look like clowns.
Peaceful protests are what I drive by quite literally every single day in Milwaukee on my way to work when I pass the Dept of Homeland Security office on Knapp St. People on the sidewalk marching around in circles with signs and a megaphone. LA was not a peaceful protest, or the cops wouldn't have been required in the first place.
I agree, of course.
Unfortunately, that train left the station years ago. (Shortly before the "peaceful protestors" burned the station down ofc :p)
We are at an impasse. Right wing boot lickers huff the propaganda straight off the pipe and pretend that it was just vandalism and looting from top to bottom to justify the boot getting a little tighter on their neck
I stand by my statement that you are all beyond pathetic
3.5 more years of rising authoritarianism while all the "small government" "culture war" ******s accept the warm embrace of their all encompassing overlord
We are at an impasse. Right wing boot lickers huff the propaganda straight off the pipe and pretend that it was just vandalism and looting from top to bottom to justify the boot getting a little tighter on their neck
I stand by my statement that you are all beyond pathetic
Fair enough.
Please note that I have not at any point (nor do I plan to) offer my opinion on whether or not Trump did the right thing in deploying the National Guard. (Mostly because I have no idea if it was the right thing to do or not.)
Trump is issuing National Guard into LA and they also sent additional agents to ****ing Minnesota
And no, its not sponge bullets, they are pelting people in the head with rubber bullets
No. This is the police, including the incident with the photographer being shot in the head from 100yd which you're talking about (the shooter being an officer of the California Highway Patrol, apparently), and they're sponge bullets, which some media misdescribe as rubber bullets. And American police never needed Trump's permission to act like thugs.
My god you bootlickers are legitimately pathetic
Don't be abusive. And stop recreationally and hysterically clutching your pearls for your own amusement.
"Well Trump is just deporting people like Obama, and these aren't protests they are riots, and the police are literally swabbing the rioters with sponges and the National Guard isn't really there, and and and"
Obama deported 2.9 million in his first term. Biden deported 1.5 million. Trump's monthly deportation rates so far are lower than Biden's, though no doubt he wants them higher. The riots are riots. Nobody is swabbing anybody with sponges, nor did I say they were, and sponge rounds are ballistic projectiles and can and do inflict injury. You just don't understand the terminology or the situation and you are flailing about at random. I didn't say the National Guard aren't there. They are there. But the Mayor of Los Angeles says they are in static positions protecting public buildings (to relieve the police, presumably) and are not engaged in crowd-control actions.
1. Looks like Poso was just a repost of Kirk's post.
2. Walsh actually had some originally material in his post, whose post may have been what prompted Kirk's post.
Walsh's looks slightly less AI generated, while Kirk one looks like something chatgpt would write. It's possible they're just using the same AI bots to write this.
