Daniel Negreanu's very own containment thread. All things Danny go here

1. Saying that only WSOP bracelets that counts are the ones in the states is incredibly dumb.

2. "Won" is a bit of a misleading term. Daniel got hot in 2004 when the poker boom was peaking, and he has been able to milk that since, with over exposure from those early broadcasts fooled people into thinking is anything more than an insufferable narcissist. The term you are looking for is "caught lightening in a bottle".

What an incredible sample size for your rebuttal.

Oh, I agree with that. He hasn't been a really top tournament player for at least 15 years. I don't agree with all the statements that he is losing player, etc.

Hilarious arguments you all are making, he’s 7th all-time money list
https://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/ranking...

And top 100 so far for 2025
https://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/ranking...

And yet somehow he’s not a professional poker player lol.

Those rankings are just based on winnings, not considering buyins. DN plays big buyins, but doesn't play many tournaments.

However, he is doing well for an amateur with the record for the most PGT wins, etc.

People are really jealous of his endorsement contract, fame, etc. to insist on thing that obviously aren't true, like he is not a professional player or not a winning player.

Sure his endorsement contract is not from being a really top player now if he ever was. It is about his making a lot of final tables like 20 years ago and having a flamboyant personality. Still if he wasn't playing high stakes tournaments and doing decently in them, he wouldn't be worth nearly as much to GG, etc.

Never met a winning player who thinks it’s spooky that they always know if they’re going to win or lose an all-in situation. Wonder why Daniel doesn’t use that power to his benefit and only go all-in when he’s going to win. He could actually be a winning player.

I think it’s cute when an extrovert says people are just jelous of his life. Most people on Internet forums are introverts who would never want to live in his shoes. That endorsement money doesn’t come free.

Dude, DNegs himself publishes his own results each year. These are not hard to find. He has not been a winning player for years.

He is negative because of the 100K+ buyin tournaments. He may be -EV in them or it may be variance. He is hugely +EV in everything else. He has assets, sponsorship, and can sell action to play those high buyins. Whether he should be doing that is another matter. When you call him not a winning player, it sound like some net loser at a 2/5 game or something.

So you are arguing he is a winning player by using an argument "He is not a winning player in the games he plays"?

When does he do that? I've only seen him talky his wsop results.

There is huge variance with the 100K+ buyins. He is a hugely winning player without those. Someone who can crush $10K buyin tournaments is a winning player. He can afford to take loses at the higher stakes, and probably that is mostly not his own money. If a lot of the people who play $100Ks plus published their results, they might be losing for 3 years, but it isn't their own money at high buyins. They are considered good enough that they can sell action.

But he isn't crushing 10ks. He's had solid results the last 2 years in the 60 man sit and go PGT's, but it's far from 'crushing'. I guess your fine taking out the $8mm for One Drop if we're removing all the other high rollers that he fires multiple bullets in. It's funny cuz he would openly back what the majority of the thread is saying; that he is chasing bracelets and staying relevant to secure what is probably the most sponsorship dollars of any poker player while losing a bit on average each year. He's clearly not a fish but he has no interest on being a top player anymore given he just shows up and fires the events and does not study. Power to him and I respect the hell out of it.

He has been crushing the $10K or so PGTs and the $10K or so non-NLHE non-PLO WSOP events. Those are both fairly tough with small fields and mostly pros. Definitely an accomplishment to beat tough fields. Also to do well in NLHE, PLO, and all sorts of other games tournaments.

I agree that he may be EV- in those big buyin events. I am not sure he is being realistic about how well his old school approach works at the highest stakes. Also, agree that with his sponsorship deal, he doesn't care that much about turning a profit from playing. Don't agree he is a "losing player" marketing himself.

He tweets it every year.

He complains about cold, complains about smoke, pillows, chairs. This dude complains a lot for a man who is living his dream.

Where does this rumor he's been a losing player last 10 years comes from?

https://www.pokerlistings.com/news/daniel-negreanu-shows-how-much-he-really-won-in-2021

Lol ouch, thanks for posting. That’s gonna leave a mark.

Dude is a pro

That's from 4 years ago.
He won 1.6 m in 2022
Lost 2.3m in 2023
Lost 940k last year.

So since 2015 he's up about 600k total in tournaments. Maybe he'll win a million this year maybe he'll lose a million who knows.

It tracks back 10 years from that

So you are saying there’s variance in 100K and 250K tournaments, who woulda thought

Two losing years in a row (so he lost 4 years out of 15?) does not make you a losing player especially if results are highly contingent on a handful of tournaments and volume is light.

Assuming your numbers are right it looks like plus 10M

Edited to add, I see you arbitrarily like to eliminate that 9M cash. Sorry, you shouldn’t do that dude if you hold firing all of those 250K bullets against him.

That article starts after those years he won all of those WPT and wsop circuit events. So he’s probably up around 15Mish. This is Caitlin Clarkish…dude is a pro

1st of 32, 18 places paying in $10K limit holdem. He is always in the leaders in these tournaments. Pretty good for an amateur.

I remember always hearing about how Daniel used to be a cash player. I’ve only known him as a tournament player other than getting smashed by a lot of bad luck on HSP back in the day. Does anyone know if he was actually a top cash reg? You never really hear about him grinding in bobby’s room. Just pure curiosity here

Nice douche-off DNegs vs. Kabrhel in today's vlog.