Daniel Negreanu's very own containment thread. All things Danny go here
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I remember always hearing about how Daniel used to be a cash player. I’ve only known him as a tournament player other than getting smashed by a lot of bad luck on HSP back in the day. Does anyone know if he was actually a top cash reg? You never really hear about him grinding in bobby’s room. Just pure curiosity here
Way, way back, the bigger games were almost all no limit, sometimes nl 5 card stud or 5 card draw, later NLHE. They went to pot limit for Omaha, so people couldn't overbet with aces or the current nuts, etc. In the 80s and 90s, games became almost all limit, partly because that appealed to the fish and cardrooms. Around 2000, tournaments were mostly no limit holdem, but cash games were almost all limit.
Negreanu was a no limit holdem tournament player before the boom. He also played cash, which was generally mixed games or limit holdem or some other limit game. I read stories of him getting into arguments with Annie Duke playing 200/400 or something like that limit holdem or some limit game. I think he used to play some the big mixed game in Bobby's Room that now runs mostly just during the Series and which Brunson and Ivey used to be the sharks in. I had a membership of some training site around 2003, which had pros who would comment on each forum, and DN was the pro for NLHE tournament forum, so I would assume that was his specialty.
I don't think he had much experience playing NLHE cash, which wasn't spread much before about 2004, and he seemed to get creamed in that in televised private high stakes games. Someone mentioned he recently turned down playing some high stakes streamed or televised cash game that included wealthy amateurs, so I would assume he realizes he is not good at NLHE cash.
1st of 32, 18 places paying in $10K limit holdem. He is always in the leaders in these tournaments. Pretty good for an amateur.
He's a strong mixed game player and his skillset would do him well in large-field lower buy-in events filled with droolers giving off all the tells (hold em, plo) if he would play more of them and had the patience, rather than just clicking buttons because it's a low buyin. The issue is when he tries to pit himself against the elite soulless GTO bots that fill the highest of high rollers, he's just outclassed.
But I imagine he likes it because it's smaller fields, the misregs aren't fawning over him (many can't seem to stand his antics when you see them in the vlog) while if he was amongst the unwashed masses full of his fanatics, he'd be pestered at every turn and likely doesn't want to deal with that.
He cares about his ego, so trying to beat the best is more important than putting himself in +EV spots by playing against competition he has completely outclassed.
If he needed the money, it'd be a different story I think.
He's a strong mixed game player and his skillset would do him well in large-field lower buy-in events filled with droolers giving off all the tells (hold em, plo) if he would play more of them and had the patience, rather than just clicking buttons because it's a low buyin. The issue is when he tries to pit himself against the elite soulless GTO bots that fill the highest of h
I agree with this almost exactly. He is losing money net, because he is playing these $50K+ buyins with the GTO bot types. He totally crushes the $10K or so mixed games (or individual games not NLHE not PLO). Not just big field tournaments, but he crushes the $10K or so 60 or so player PGTs.
Way, way back, the bigger games were almost all no limit, sometimes nl 5 card stud or 5 card draw, later NLHE. They went to pot limit for Omaha, so people couldn't overbet with aces or the current nuts, etc. In the 80s and 90s, games became almost all limit, partly because that appealed to the fish and cardrooms. Around 2000, tournaments were mostly no limit holdem, but cash ga
I think it's an issue of he doesn't need the money. He's living VERY comfortably and will come out to play events per his sponsorship agreements, but aside from that, he'd rather just chill at home away from that ratrace.
All he cares about is legacy, bracelets, etc. He's in the "chasing glory" phase as he no longer needs to chase the money.
As Hellmuth said, one can't be a pro just playing tournaments. I agree. Daniel is not a poker pro if all the poker he plays are tournaments.
I am sure you can come up with some definition to show he is not a pro.
3rd of 22 in $10K limit holdem. Blom in 2nd. Hennigan, Ausmus, McKeehen, and Lindgren still in it.
He was a tournament player when big tournaments were mostly NLHE and big cash games were mostly mixed games. So with tournament experience and mixed game experience, he is a really strong mixed game tournament player. However, he is also a very strong NLHE and PLO tournament player, at least for $10K buyin and below.
He isn't that concerned about making money from poker. That is different from him not being able to make money playing poker.
The big mixes are very much alive and well particularly during the series, Bellagio has been booming all week, black chip games and up.
I walked by one table, maybe 200-400 mix where a player not in the hand was asking a player that wanted to act, if he “wanted to put in 4 bets”….needless to say whether it was a communication issue or just that many inexperienced limit players testing higher stakes, the mix action is healthy during wsop. There are games in the private room that fit DN’s bankroll, I saw Eli and Chino playing. DN would just say, “I would rather be rested for tourney,” to avoid those games.
Daniel 2nd in chips with 13 left in the 10k limit hold em
Should be his 3rd final table of the Series, limit holdem, O8, NL lowball, plus an 11th in stud. All non-NLHE 10Ks. Pretty good for a losing player.
He complains about cold, complains about smoke, pillows, chairs. This dude complains a lot for a man who is living his dream.
I guess you've never had to overcome the adversity of sitting in an slightly uncomfortable chair in 67 degrees. Or walked through a casino that allows smoking for 60-90 seconds
8th of 9 in limit holdem 10K at end of day. Blom in 1st. Obviously, a losing player, probably won't get another bracelet in this.
Yeah, he mostly just plays the WSOP and PGT. Maybe that is in his sponsorship agreement. Doesn't need to make money playing poker, with sponsorship and assets/ investments.
Can Blom play limit?
8th of 9 in limit holdem 10K at end of day. Blom in 1st. Obviously, a losing player, probably won't get another bracelet in this.
Yeah, he mostly just plays the WSOP and PGT. Maybe that is in his sponsorship agreement. Doesn't need to make money playing poker, with sponsorship and assets/ investments.
Again because you seem a bit slow, he is down on WSOP and poker overall according to his own published results in the last 10 years.
Plus, isn't he like break even (=losing if you are counting expenses) this series?
I don't care if he's a pro by whatever definition you guys are arguing over but I'm glad he keeps making non NLH final tables so pokergo streams them.
Again because you seem a bit slow, he is down on WSOP and poker overall according to his own published results in the last 10 years.
Plus, isn't he like break even (=losing if you are counting expenses) this series?
You're even slower. He made all those final tables, but he is down for the Series because he fired 2 bullets in the $100K.
I don't care if he's a pro by whatever definition you guys are arguing over but I'm glad he keeps making non NLH final tables so pokergo streams them.
Yeah, they showed the O8 table and will show the limit holdem final table. They showed the first part of the NL 2-7 final table, but not the next day after Negreanu busted. They should show all NL 2-7 final tables, as they always have big names. I remember in 2007 or so seeing the players entering the $5K NL 2-7 event and many of them were "TV pros".
It is nice DN keeps making so many final tables, even though he is a losing player and a hustler with the endorsement contract.
He may play the WSOP and PGT because their final tables are sort of televised on Pokergo. That way be in his endorsement contract to play those televised events. It is even possible that the contract requires him to play the big buyin events.
The $250K is in a couple of days. I am sure DN will fire 2 bullets in that and if he doesn't cash, more evidence that he is a losing player.
Out in 8th in limit holdem. Definitely an amateur. Blom with big lead 6-handed.
I don't care if he's a pro by whatever definition you guys are arguing over but I'm glad he keeps making non NLH final tables so pokergo streams them.
100 percent. There are only a handful of players with that kind of draw, but he's certainly high on that list, maybe even atop it.
The funny thing is how long it took to click for me that Negreanu was the reason for streaming whatever event it was (e.g. Omaha8). I kept asking, how are there so many people who are still interested in tuning into a poker tournament in 2025, but who are ALSO so thoroughly confused by any form of game that isn't NLHE? Sure, I get there are plenty of each, but there shouldn't be much overlap between the two.
I'll admit it took until late in the NL deuce final table that "oooooh, this is the Negreanu horde."
ha i love it
love him hate him,find him somewhat annoying
guy still gets deep
i like DN hes mildly annoying sometime but arent we all
hope he wins something big this just to calm this thread haters
I'm not going to keep repeating his spectacular recent achievements. Not sure what he needs to do to quiet down the haters.
It's happening today, 12pm
Event #46: $250,000 Super High Roller No-Limit Hold'em
I'm hoping Daniel is good for 2 bullets.
