Moderation Questions
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic fa
But I thought Harris lost because too many people took right-wingers seriously?
I'm confused. 
The line the 90 IQ conservatives used to explain MAGAts was that they take Trump seriously not literally. But after Jan 6 they stopped with that and conceded that many do take him literally. But yeah, your confusion is obviously on brand.
You must not be very familiar with Victor, Karl, Deuces, et. al. and their work in the Israel thread. Based on what they are allowed to get away with, I assure you there is no broad rule about making **** up and calling either groups or individuals murderers, rapists, genociders, etc. based on nothing but their own biases and imaginations.
Victor and Karl have been banned several times. I don't think there's an inherent bias against any political perspective. Luciom immediately declared the shooting was political murder by the left when zero info was available at the time.
He was warned over it and persisted . There's more lenient moderating here lately. Myself and a mod had a heated exchange where insults were given by both of us, but the mod didn't ban me over the exchange.
If a mod who displays leniency and doesn't go on a power trip during an argument, ses fit to warn you then you're better off heeding it.
And even then Luciom was told to"take a day off" so as temp bans go, he ot off light.
Victor and Karl have been banned several times. I don't think there's an inherent bias against any political perspective. Luciom immediately declared the shooting was political murder by the left when zero info was available at the time. He was warned over it and persisted . There's more lenient moderating here lately. Myself and a mod had a heated exchange where insults were
The murder was political murder *according to the governor of the state where it happened*.
I didn't claim that immediately. I claimed that AFTER waltz called it a political murder and the victim was the key swing vote to pass a controversial RIGHTWING bill
Is there evidence either way of who exactly carried out these murders? Is there a broad rule against speculating about that?
All media confirmed the perpetrator was the person I indicated before getting banned.
Now the left is rabidly trying to claim that person, who worked for two consecutive democrat state administration, as a politically nominated appointee for work relations, is rightwing.
That's just blatant, naked fraud to cover how a democrat operative is the assassin, simple as that.
All media confirmed the perpetrator was the person I indicated before getting banned.
Now the left is rabidly trying to claim that person, who worked for two consecutive democrat state administration, as a politically nominated appointee for work relations, is rightwing.
That's just blatant, naked fraud to cover how a democrat operative is the assassin, simple as that.
Bi-partisan commissions are very low evidence of someone being an “operative” for a particular political party. Especially one for economic development. They tend to just be occupied by people who are interested in being on them, because the interest is quite low.
Also you are committing a very clear fallacy of post hoc ergo proctor hoc. Some event happening after some other event is not enough information to say that the anterior event caused the posterior event.
Incredible work by Luciom, returning from being banned for lying about the killer's motives after a warning and immediately lying about the killer's motives again.
It's not even post hoc ergo proper hoc. It's simply not knowing what these super low level political committee volunteer appointments even mean. Walz probably has never met the guy and had no reason to ever know his political positions.
Steve Kalina owns a small manufacturing business and has been on the governor’s workforce board since 2019 and said he’s on the opposite end of the political spectrum from Walz.
Kalina said the governor appoints people to represent the views of industry, and not to represent Walz’s political views. Kalina said the board does not interact with the governor on a regular basis. Boelter is listed in a 2020 state report for the board as having no party preference.
Kalina said he’s seen people post on social media trying to criticize Walz but that it’s a “shameless way of attacking the governor at a time we should be mourning the leaders of our state.”
It's not even post hoc ergo proper hoc. It's simply not knowing what these super low level political committee volunteer appointments even mean. Walz probably have never met the guy.
Very on brand for the fascist liar to use his ignorance of how a foreign government works as a weapon.
The murder was political murder *according to the governor of the state where it happened*.
I didn't claim that immediately. I claimed that AFTER waltz called it a political murder and the victim was the key swing vote to pass a controversial RIGHTWING bill
Stop lying your culo off. Right from the get go you started banging on about how it was political murder by the left and also stated that political violence was inherently a radical left thing, ignoring that most political violence/terrorism in the past few years has been by the far right. A moderator felt you were being ghoulish. You were warned, you persisted and got spanked over it. Move on.
All media confirmed the perpetrator was the person I indicated before getting banned.
Now the left is rabidly trying to claim that person, who worked for two consecutive democrat state administration, as a politically nominated appointee for work relations, is rightwing.
That's just blatant, naked fraud to cover how a democrat operative is the assassin, simple as that.
Um, did you see the names on his would be hit list? No way is this dude radical left.
It's not even post hoc ergo proper hoc. It's simply not knowing what these super low level political committee volunteer appointments even mean. Walz probably has never met the guy and had no reason to ever know his political positions.
The post hoc fallacy is saying that because the lawmaker had voted to stop allowing illegal immigrants to get public healthcare from Minnesota state and she was killed after that happened that this means that she was killed because she voted to stop allowing illegal immigrants to get public healthcare with Minnesota state.
I mean clearly one thing following another thing does not mean that the previous thing caused the latter thing is my point.
Also there is disconfirming evidence that he was a democratic operative, so even if Luciom is saying that an appointment by democratic governors means there’s evidence to think he was an operative, that’s a defeasible reason.
The post hoc fallacy is saying that because the lawmaker had voted to stop allowing illegal immigrants to get public healthcare from Minnesota state and she was killed after that happened that this means that she was killed because she voted to stop allowing illegal immigrants to get public healthcare with Minnesota state.I mean clearly one thing following another thing does no
Since the gunman's first order of business was to shoot Senator Hoffman, who did not vote for the repeal bill, the whole theory fails. Then there's the increasing volume of information about the suspect's attitudes.
The post hoc fallacy is saying that because the lawmaker had voted to stop allowing illegal immigrants to get public healthcare from Minnesota state and she was killed after that happened that this means that she was killed because she voted to stop allowing illegal immigrants to get public healthcare with Minnesota state.I mean clearly one thing following another thing does no
Oh sorry. Yes you're right that is obvious post hoc ergo propter hoc. I misunderstood you and thought you were talking about how his committee appointment by Walz proves he's a Dem.
Now the left is rabidly trying to claim that person, who worked for two consecutive democrat state administration, as a politically nominated appointee for work relations, is rightwing.
Welcome back, the Luciom clown show.
Hes a Trump voter and, I read, a registered Republican Party member.
LOOOOOOOOOOL
Since the gunman's first order of business was to shoot Senator Hoffman, who did not vote for the repeal bill, the whole theory fails. Then there's the increasing volume of information about the suspect's attitudes.
Oh yeah, there’s definitely even more disconfirming evidence of the theory coming out.
I’m not prepared to fully assess what the particular motives are but at least for now it doesn’t look like it was because these people weren’t left-wing enough.
Oh sorry. Yes you're right that is obvious post hoc ergo propter hoc. I misunderstood you and thought you were talking about how his committee appointment by Walz proves he's a Dem.
Ye so obvious, you get caught by your wife cheating and she files for divorce immediately after that, but it would be moronic to presume the reason she divorces you is that you were cheating sure.
High IQ democrats for the win
Stop lying your culo off. Right from the get go you started banging on about how it was political murder by the left and also stated that political violence was inherently a radical left thing, ignoring that most political violence/terrorism in the past few years has been by the far right. A moderator felt you were being ghoulish. You were warned, you persisted and got spanked
There was never a year in the last 50+ when political violence was remotely more common on the right than on the left. Not even vaguely close in the first world.
That includes Jan 6, basically the only significant rightwing violent episode on decades.
Claiming most political violence has been rightwing recently is like claiming men can get pregnant.
It is such an "in your face" denial of objective reality that or separates forever normal people from ******ed leftists.
The BLM riots alone were worse than the totality of rightwing violence on first world countries since 1950.
The yellow jackets, killer jaune french communist rioting as well.
The right never does anything even vaguely comparable to setting cities on fire like that.
Because as much as the right can contain horrid people, all the worst ones, the real dangerous trash, are on the left.
what about Timothy Mcveigh?
what about the trump supporter who shot up a synagogue?
what about the massacre of a gay club in Orlando?
The list goes on and on.
The idea that the right wing is less violent than the left wing is not one based on reality.
Lucioms df idea of what constitutes left wing violence is also hilarious. He equivocates violence against property with bombing federal buildings.
Just dishonest bullsht.
