Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

Think this merits its own thread...

Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.

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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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Impressive silly nonsense. Well done

I appreciate the attempt to deflect but it doesn't change who and what Netanyuhu is.


by DoyleBrunsonFan

Chezlaw has been repeating the same sentiment over and over. There’s no nuance to his stance beyond “Bibi bad. Israel bad.” According to him the Israelis should let themselves be genocided because the alternative is the international community gets bothered.He was the first poster I ignored because it was abundantly clear that he has no ability to process information. He’s

I dont think you understand chez's position. he supports Israel but not Bibi.


by Victor

I dont think you understand chez's position. he supports Israel but not Bibi.

It’s actually him who doesn’t understand his position.

Maybe he’s not explicitly or consciously pro Hamas but everything he posts is an admonishment of Israel defending itself.


lol


It’s not an uncommon stance among people who don’t really know anything. Israel and Jews should bear the brunt of extreme violence perpetrated by radical Islamists because that’s just how things go and no one else wants to be the main target.


I dont doubt your endless supply of silly nonsense.

I had wondered if anyone would argue that the article about netanyahu supportign hamas wasn't accurate. From the silly nonsense reponse I tend to assume you think it is accurate.


Are you trying to insinuate that Netanyahu orchestrated Oct 7th? Because otherwise idk what your point is. There’s really no alternative where there isn’t a radical extremist group running the Palestinians unless they made more pragmatic decisions on their end. They’ve had a century to agree to peace and ditch religiously motivated terrorism.


No of course i'm not insinuating that. Dont be so silly

Nothing in the article I linked suggests that and the idea I'd believe that is bullshit. As I would have though you would be able to tell if youd were actually familiar with my posts instead of lieing about them.


by DoyleBrunsonFan

Are you trying to insinuate that Netanyahu orchestrated Oct 7th? Because otherwise idk what your point is. There’s really no alternative where there isn’t a radical extremist group running the Palestinians unless they made more pragmatic decisions on their end. They’ve had a century to agree to peace and ditch religiously motivated terrorism.

I mean I think his point is that Netanyahu shouldn’t have supported Hamas in order to undermine the possibility of a unified Palestinian population, unified behind PA.

I know they are not angels but they have been more reasonable over the last 20 years than the alternatives. Even throughout this war they haven’t thrown away their agreements over ideological posturing, despite international agitation and skirmishes on the border with Israel.


by checkraisdraw

It feels good because it will mean tankie confusion as to what to support lol

no, it won't

You have no idea who your enemies are, presumably because you never read anything


by Dunyain

Just a heads up, this sub forum (especially this thread) is a cesspool of far leftists and Islamists. As long as they perceive it as being anti-civilizational; there is no depravity many of the posters in this form (Victor, Jalfrezi, Pompous, Karl) wont enthusiasticaly endorse. As you can see all these people support Lula and your countries descent into a 1984 style authoritar

grrr, civilization! Laughed at that. Good stuff. Another astute reactionary who fully understands his enemies.

by corpus vile

Jeez you commies love executing people. Kinda dissipates your faux concern over Palestinians.

Did you accidentally delete the sentence in between these two which explains this leap of logic?

by corpus vile

But you have opined he should be executed by firing squad. (As well as cheered on Hamas' mass murder on Oct 07. "cool" was the word I believe you used.)

In your ideal world, if such a thing came about, would you willing to be one of the members of said firing squad?

I'd settle for watching a nurse administer whatever drugs they give to executed criminals.


Gay sex parties are not my scene. But I am very proud to support the one nation in the Middle East that is tolerant enough to allow people to live their lives in peace. And believe it or not it does matter that one side is liberal and tolerant and the other side is barbaric and intolerant and would execute all the people in this video in the name of Allah.

And the fact it doesn't matter at all to the so called leftists in this thread shows just how morally compromised most of you guys are.


the one nation in the Middle East that is tolerant enough to allow people to live their lives in peace.

some restrictions apply...


by Karl_TheOG_Marx

no, it won't

You have no idea who your enemies are, presumably because you never read anything

You’re not a tankie, you’re too socially progressive.



Funny how this person understands how wars work only after a country they like was invaded.


by DoyleBrunsonFan

I love how the pro Hamas posters can’t even own up to their own positions. Grow a spine.

If your entire purpose in this thread is to oppose the Israelis defending themselves then you’re pro Hamas. Own it.

To be fair chezlaw is not like the other pro Hamas posters.

He just believes that "diplomacy" can achieve the eradication of Islamic terror.

Which i think is an absurd position but it came through as genuine and not bad faith from him


Txs but even that is far from accurate.

"diplomacy' is necessary but not sufficient


by checkraisdraw

It feels good because it will mean tankie confusion as to what to support lol

If that’s really what you think so called tankies would be conflicted about, you’re even more clueless than I thought.


by jalfrezi

If that’s really what you think so called tankies would be conflicted about, you’re even more clueless than I thought.

Would you support a violent insurrection against the ayatollahs by the iranian people in general?

would you support it more, less, the same if it came with specific socialist/communist connotations and goals , if they win against the ayatollahs?


by Luciom

Would you support a violent insurrection against the ayatollahs by the iranian people in general?

would you support it more, less, the same if it came with specific socialist/communist connotations and goals , if they win against the ayatollahs?

Of course. I support people everywhere rising up against tyranny. I’m a leftist so why wouldn’t I?

And of course I’d be even more enthusiastic if it was part of a socialist uprising ldo.


by jalfrezi

Of course. I support people everywhere rising up against tyranny. I’m a leftist so why wouldn’t I?

And of course I’d be even more enthusiastic if it was part of a socialist uprising ldo.

So if the american or Israeli government supplied weapons, logistics and so on to people in Iran to topple the ayatollahs, you would support that?

would you support an uprising against the ayatollah by a group of people who wanted to ally with Israel in case they are succesful, against sunni muslims?


That doesnt sound much like a people led uprising and quite a lot like the US toppling foreign leaders to replace them with a puppet, yet again, so no.


by jalfrezi

If that’s really what you think so called tankies would be conflicted about, you’re even more clueless than I thought.

I mean given a good portion of the left has convinced itself that Iran should receive critical support in its current form as a way of counteracting perceived imperialism, I’m not so sure it’s cut and dry.

In any case I never got any tankie vibes from you either so my comments aren’t directed at you if that’s what you think.


Extraordinary how the tankies are under everyone’s beds but when you actually talk to people you can’t find any.


by jalfrezi

Extraordinary how the tankies are under everyone’s beds but when you actually talk to people you can’t find any.

Why would I be afraid of them? They are largely irrelevant outside of the context of actually existing marxist governments. I imagine they don’t much hang out on poker forums anyway.

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