Israel / Iran thread
Seems like this conflict is not going to end anytime soon and is worthy of its own thread.
Has the geography of power changed in the region?
Nothing got broken that can't be readily fixed.
Syria isn't a Russian/Iranian puppet anymore and as bad as it is going to be for citizens because of the radical islam bent of the new dictatorship, it's an exceptionally good development for Israel and a very bad one for Iran.
The Golan heights are under Israeli control right now
Maybe the cost of those hostages been exceeded shrug.
For every 1 hostage u got almost like 1k Palestinian dead in return ?
Imagine if for every “soldier” death, u get 1k death in the opposite camp ?
That would closely be the most successful war ever ?
Pretty good ratio for bloodthirsty people like you imo.
You would think belligerent nations and terrorists would know the cost of attacking Israel. I've known for a long time that Israel said "You kill one of ours we'll 10 of yours". Something like that. It's been that way for a long time. Aerial Sharon used to bulldoze the homes of suicide bombers families.
I'm not bloodthirsty. I really don't care about either side. It's just tough not to speak up when I see stupidity/insanity.
I've known for a long time that Israel said "You kill one of ours we'll 10 of yours".
hmm, I wonder who else said things like this.
All this talk of Iranian hostages reminds me of Argo. Good movie.
does it show Iran releasing all of the female and black US embassy workers?
You would think belligerent nations and terrorists would know the cost of attacking Israel. I've known for a long time that Israel said "You kill one of ours we'll 10 of yours". Something like that. It's been that way for a long time. Aerial Sharon used to bulldoze the homes of suicide bombers families. I'm not bloodthirsty. I really don't care about either side. It's just toug
Let’s say you are right and it’s ok .
It’s still isn’t 1000 to 1 ….which is 100x more .
Get the point ?
Has the geography of power changed in the region?
Nothing got broken that can't be readily fixed.
Hamas hammered
Hezbollah hammered
Syria gone
Dead military leaders
Dead civilian leaders
Dead scientists
No more air defense
Ballistic missile stockpile much smaller
Nuclear sites hit by bunker busters, whatever happened there
Other than all that, Iran is playing great right now.
I was referring to the bombing of Iran as being not expecially consequential. Most of your points are separate. But you knew that.
This wasn't necessarily about the math. It was about you hit us we hit you back way harder.
Well if you can’t understand the meaning of math and how 1000-1 and 10-1 has massive different meaning .
I guess the holocaust of 6 millions Jews dead doesn’t mean much either because you know , it’s just math….
Jfc your take is dumb …
Iran demonstrated a consistent capability to pierce Israeli missile defenses and damage or destroy Israeli infrastructure and combat systems
So Iran actually won huh? My god you and vic are in serious denial and the tone of that article is laughable, albeit not as hilarious as its claim that the conflict was "an unmitigated disaster" for Israel.
I'm not asserting the article is the last word. All I'm saying is it's a point of view to consider.
Very good , the Trump administration finally asked formally for Albanese to be kicked out of her role at the UN
https://x.com/Osint613/status/1940058260...
Open Source Intel
@Osint613
BREAKING ����
Trump administration demands the UN immediately dismiss Palestinian rights envoy Francesca Albanese, citing her “virulent antisemitism” and open support for terrorism. Officials also exposed that Albanese falsely presents herself as an international lawyer, despite never passing a bar exam or holding a legal license. - Washington Free Beacon
Work by my friends on italian twitter proving she never passed the bar exam helped
So Iran actually won huh? My god you and vic are in serious denial and the tone of that article is laughable, albeit not as hilarious as its claim that the conflict was "an unmitigated disaster" for Israel.
as long as Arabs and Persians and Shia exist as a sovereign people they have won. Israel is a project of extermination by the West and they dont win until they "kill em all Bibi".
I'm not asserting the article is the last word. All I'm saying is it's a point of view to consider.
I honestly don't think you should consider anything from an article like that other than a for a comfy shot of dopamine.
Like, Bibi is ****ing awful, but so is Ali in at least an equal sense, and it isn't exactly a sign of useful information worth considering when the journalists can't hold back from using one sided terms like the tactics of an "internationally wanted war criminal" and the US entering as a multifaceted misinformation campaign to define one side and then stating that the other dropped the braggadocio in its defense causing unprecedented damage.
But that's the problem with war, because almost everyone involved enough to write about it is going to be on one side or the other and it actually goes back to how the lefties are correct that borders cause people to lose their ****ing minds.
Also the econ page is written by at least one total stooge promoting false youtube fluff for more ideological reasons.
But i think both Iran and Israel definitely look a lot worse than they did last year, Iran definitely got a lot of missiles through and did a good amount of damage but I think the iron dome still did somewhat well considering the massive barrage of missiles that definitely scared Israel. But it's all for show and both are still the nut low.
It’s safe to assume Bill Haywood is either a troll or deeply indoctrinated by online misinformation. If he’s posting that article, I lean towards the latter.
Sound familiar?
How about now?
I'm not asserting the article is the last word. All I'm saying is it's a point of view to consider.
I'd regard your link as a rather dubious source.
According to mediafbiasfactcheck.com:
We also rate it Mixed in factual reporting due to the publication of unsubstantiated conspiracy theories.
Also when I googled scheerpost, the first thing under "scheerpost" was "scheerpost bias".
^^^Corner-cutters automatically shout "biased" rather than engage with the specific arguments and data.
it isn't exactly a sign of useful information worth considering when the journalists can't hold back from using one sided terms like the tactics of an "internationally wanted war criminal"
It's a factual statement. It would be euphemistic to say otherwise.
^^^Corner-cutters automatically shout "biased" rather than engage with the specific arguments and data.
It's a factual statement. It would be euphemistic to say otherwise.
Correct, but you would also correctly question the temerity of an article that said the "self-appointed, mass murdering, human rights violating, tyrant just fired a boat load of missiles in which 95% were successfully intercepted in which led to Bibi dropping the braggadocio and defended itself by meticulously killing many of whom engineered the attack."
Both can be argued as true, but both are completely dumb approaches if you're in the biz to attempt to properly analyze a situation that is worthy to "consider" - especially when both have blood so far up their asses as those two gents do. But ideology blinds people and we all have it to some degree.
Syria isn't a Russian/Iranian puppet anymore and as bad as it is going to be for citizens because of the radical islam bent of the new dictatorship, it's an exceptionally good development for Israel and a very bad one for Iran.
The Golan heights are under Israeli control right now
By all accounts "radical Islam" does not seem to be a part of the new govt. I was recently listening to a podcast discussing the various factions of Al Qaeda, and it was brought up that many in Al Qaeda viewed "radical Islam" as a means more than an end. For many, the objective was to remove "foreign" influence (be it US, Iran, Hezbollah, or Baathists) from the region, but beyond this many had no interest in religious extremism.
The podcaster argued Al Jolani for his part comes for a middle class bourgeoisie family, and for all intensive purposes is more of a neoliberal than a radical Islamist. And so far, the new Syrian govt seems to be behaving consistent with this. That is not to say radical Islam is not an issue, as the new govt has limited control over much of the nation, and radical Islamic groups, including ISIS, still operate in the area.
lol jfc
