Moderation Questions
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic fa
I’m not talking about human rights obviously. I’m talking about how people should and usually do have the right to attain citizenship after working or studying in a country for a period of time. In some countries they can buy their citizenship eg New Zealand,
ok so you are talking a privilege that is not a human right and that different countries bestow in different ways, and you are calling me a supporter of apartheid if I want far stricter rules (which are perfectly constitutional in modern liberal democracies) to naturalize immigrants.
I will make a much stronger claim: Nobody practices "actual Christian values". At least not perfectly or consistently. That's why we must repent daily.
The world isn't divided between sinners and non-sinners. The world is divided between forgiven sinners and unforgiven sinners.
yes unlike trolls who never present a policy issue with their own preferences defending it (see: you, thinman, trollson and others) I talk actual politics (in this case naturalization laws in western countries) in a political forum.
that is political content in a political forum.
you instead, like a poltergeist, just follow me around to vent your frustration at the fact that the country you live in is currently governed by people you dislike. which I mean is part of politics as well in some sense
I keep telling you the mods don't give a ****.
hope I find a river soon
I will make a much stronger claim: Nobody practices "actual Christian values". At least not perfectly or consistently. That's why we must repent daily.
The world isn't divided between sinners and non-sinners. The world is divided between forgiven sinners and unforgiven sinners.
Of course no one is perfect - Christians and everyone else knows that. But 'practice' should entail an attempt to act Christ-like. And I don't see that in the politicians who invoke Christianity most often.
Except for this guy:
ok so you are talking a privilege that is not a human right and that different countries bestow in different ways, and you are calling me a supporter of apartheid if I want far stricter rules (which are perfectly constitutional in modern liberal democracies) to naturalize immigrants.
You’re a supporter of apartheid because you want people treated differently by the law according to whether they belong in your eyes to a “superior” or “inferior” race or culture and if the latter you want them subjected to far harsher sentencing after committing a crime, including the death penalty, as well as denied citizenship.
That’s right isn’t it?
didace knows what I am talking about. he will deny ofc, but he knows he agrees with me vastly more often than he disagrees on values, and that he can't admit it because doing so in social death in this circle
We agree with each other in the sense that if I said 4 was the best number you would jump in and say, "Exactly, 444,444,444,444,444,444 is a great number".
And lol at "social death in this circle". You need to get out of the basement more.
"Anything we can do to eradicate people like you [he was responding to me simply saying I was a leftist] from existence forever should be legal, and morally imperative" That is more than simply calling liberals "horrific scum." It's the type of thing that should not be tolerated among civilized people.He then went on to say that the only use for me and others like me was as org
lol are you really mad about this post? if someone said that to me I would laugh.
You’re a supporter of apartheid because you want people treated differently by the law according to whether they belong in your eyes to a “superior” or “inferior” race or culture and if the latter you want them subjected to far harsher sentencing after committing a crime, including the death penalty, as well as denied citizenship.
That’s right isn’t it?
The inferior culture being someone who is not currently a citizen?
Yes but you're not a liberal.
THIS!!!!!!
When I am on the receiving end of a particularly vile insult, I ask the mods if they can make it my undertitle!
That said...
Can the mods make "Greatest Threat to Humanity" by undertitle? Thanks in advance!
No. I'm not mad about it. I'm irritated that trash like that isn't taken out like it should be. Lucioms disgusting opinions don't affect my emotional state at all.
The lack of what I would consider bare minimum moderation of abhorrent hate speech like that is silly when a guy just hints he might be a nazi and he's immediately banned. Meanwhile Luciom says the mass killing of every leftist should be a moral imperative and he's left alone because he posts a lot.
My irritation is at that, not Lucioms vile word vomit.
I also would've dropped it if people hadn't kept accusing me of lying about it.
Not unnoticed is Victor suddenly having no problem with someone promoting mass killings of innocent people.
No. I'm not mad about it. I'm irritated that trash like that isn't taken out like it should be. Lucioms disgusting opinions don't affect my emotional state at all.The lack of what I would consider bare minimum moderation of abhorrent hate speech like that is silly when a guy just hints he might be a nazi and he's immediately banned. Meanwhile Luciom says the mass killing of eve
Hints he might be a nazi? lmao did you see the guy’s posts?
Yes. I agree he's a nazi, but he didn't outright say murder millions of innocents like Luciom did.
I don't see how they're substantially worse than the nonsense Lucio posts 3,000 times a day.
Ok. I think an actual nazi that is loud and proud about how great he finds national socialism to be is one of the worst types of users there can be on any platform anywhere. I’m not interested in a long debate about this so agree to disagree.
There’s not a single post you can point to where Luciom says “any AI programmed with honesty will be a national socialist” or anything close. I think saying that honesty leads to national socialism should be banned. Maybe of the 3000 posts per day Luciom does, if he says anything close to that you should report one of them and post it in this thread, like I did.
Ok. I think an actual nazi that is loud and proud about how great he finds national socialism to be is one of the worst types of users there can be on any platform anywhere. I’m not interested in a long debate about this so agree to disagree.There’s not a single post you can point to where Luciom says “any AI programmed with honesty will be a national socialist” or anything clo
I did both of those things, but for some reason you don't seem to think saying we should kill millions of innocent people because they are leftists is that bad. If that's really your stance, OK I guess? We definitely disagree in that case.
I did both of those things, but for some reason you don't seem to think saying we should kill millions of innocent people because they are leftists is that bad. If that's really your stance, OK I guess? We definitely disagree in that case.
He said that we should kill millions of innocent leftists? Yeah that would be bad. Does that mean it’s worse than supporting nazism? I mean it depends on how lucid he was when he said it. I know I’ve seen people say that Trump supporters deserve to die, or that they should be executed for treason. When I hear that I usually think it’s hyperbole.
I do think that being a nazi and promoting it is worse than those types of statements, however horrible they are.
But yeah, if you see stuff like that you should report it so he can get a temp/permaban.
Yeah. Did you just miss where I posted the screenshot? I'm not sure why you'd doubt it, any way. He clearly believes that stuff. Just because he only says it once in awhile doesn't change that.
But yeah, it's really bad. I'm glad you finally agree. I don't think it matters if it's "as bad as promoting nazism" or whatever, so I'm not going to get into that. It's clearly bad enough to remove from posting here, no matter how often he contributes. At least for me it is.
I did both of those things, but for some reason you don't seem to think saying we should kill millions of innocent people because they are leftists is that bad. If that's really your stance, OK I guess? We definitely disagree in that case.
But Luciom wants millions of innocent people killed in a manner consistent with and thru legal means consistent with the Constitution, dum-dum!
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Yeah. Did you just miss where I posted the screenshot? I'm not sure why you'd doubt it, any way. He clearly believes that stuff. Just because he only says it once in awhile doesn't change that. But yeah, it's really bad. I'm glad you finally agree. I don't think it matters if it's "as bad as promoting nazism" or whatever, so I'm not going to get into that. It's clearly bad enou
If it’s from your screenshot I already said it wad bad. I thought you were saying there was some additional bad thing he said.
I think since then he has been temp banned twice. So he definitely gets moderated.
@Luciom do you want to apologize or retract your statement?
