2025 World Series of Poker May 27th - July 16th
I wonder why no sites track buy ins
Rumour going round he only had 20% of the ME and 7% of PPC…and was stone broke a few years ago. No idea if that’s true, personally can’t fathom that being the case.
I could MAYBE buy it for the PPC but after winning that no way he wouldn't have most of himself for the main and what he didn't have would just be swaps.
Probably because there's no positive outcome if you do. I disagree with the other poster that it's too hard to do nowadays. All these tournaments that are sending their results to hendonmob, it would be a trivial change to send the entire entry list along with the results of who was in the money.
If you start tracking buy-ins yes it's cool for people who are interested in stats and seeing who's really winning and losing player, but it's probably not a good thing for the game.
The operators know that if they passed on that info to hendonmob, they would get less entries.
If she knew Kenny had 66, how should she have played it What's his range of checking hands, that will likely either win her the blinds anyway after the flop or could be very tricky to play oop against a big stackThere's no way limp-call 100% of shoves is the best strategy in this specific situation. In a $230 weekly buyin during the rebuy period, sure.
designing a strategy so th
Thank you for a great response.
Probably because there's no positive outcome if you do. I disagree with the other poster that it's too hard to do nowadays. All these tournaments that are sending their results to hendonmob, it would be a trivial change to send the entire entry list along with the results of who was in the money. If you start tracking buy-ins yes it's cool for people who are interested in sta
no probably about it. it's terrible for the game if it showed net results.
I didnt watch the final table but the 106d hand is pretty negligible. Yes id obv rather shove but given my understanding of the stack sizes he had to get to a point of putting pressure on 2nd place. He very likely gets trash the next couple hands and then hes in a real bad spot where his double doesn't mean much. Seems silly I guess but you're already assured 4 million, go for it.
Im sure it was discussed quite a bit but I hated MM shove with AJ that made him short with 3 tables left. Honestly his reaction and him choosing to do that leads me to believe he might have been staked and wanted to get some chips to go for the win.
Confirmation bias but it was a pretty reckless play utg.
Probably because there's no positive outcome if you do. I disagree with the other poster that it's too hard to do nowadays. All these tournaments that are sending their results to hendonmob, it would be a trivial change to send the entire entry list along with the results of who was in the money. If you start tracking buy-ins yes it's cool for people who are interested in sta
There are lots of positive outcomes from this.
The main positive is people get a realistic view of what being a tournament pro is actually like.
It can help people not buy action of losing players
It can help people not get outright scammed
The only argument against it is so that losing whales don't get embarrassed and stop punting, which is short sighted and selfish
Then they'd find out that 95%-100% of people who play dozens to hundreds of tournaments are massive lovers until they hit a top 3 score. But then they are down the very next year overall. Its a sick life.
Better beat cash games is what people would find out.
I didnt watch the final table but the 106d hand is pretty negligible. Yes id obv rather shove but given my understanding of the stack sizes he had to get to a point of putting pressure on 2nd place. He very likely gets trash the next couple hands and then hes in a real bad spot where his double doesn't mean much. Seems silly I guess but you're already assured 4 million, go fo
It was a terrible shove and they should take him out of the HOF for it! Others in the HOF who don't know how to play short stacked.
There are lots of positive outcomes from this.
The main positive is people get a realistic view of what being a tournament pro is actually like.
It can help people not buy action of losing players
It can help people not get outright scammed
The only argument against it is so that losing whales don't get embarrassed and stop punting, which is short sighted and selfish
Lets say casinos could track all gambling wins and losses. Should they publish that info? Should fanduel and draftkings? Of course not.
Losing players often delude themselves into thinking they win but even ones who know they lose rightly don't want that as public info because it's nobody's business.
I hate scammers but cutting down some on scammers at the expense of people who don't want their results published seems crazy to me. Unless someone us publicly trying to sell actions it's not anybody's business how they do in poker.
"helping people now what it's like to be a tournament pro" is an even worse reason to make it public.
It's not even me being selfish- I've played less than 10 live tournaments in the 20 years or so I've played poker. It's just common sense.
Those live earnings mean nothing and I don't know if it is possible to track buyins.
Lets say casinos could track all gambling wins and losses. Should they publish that info? Should fanduel and draftkings? Of course not.Losing players often delude themselves into thinking they win but even ones who know they lose rightly don't want that as public info because it's nobody's business.I hate scammers but cutting down some on scammers at the expense of people who
How is it more somebodies business that Grinder has 30 million in cashes?
Would it be better for you if they only showed accumulated buy ins for the top 100 money list?
i think if grinder doesnt win his 4th ppc this main event run has a completely different tone.
Since
He didn't play particularly great or bad
His all ins were basically get it in behind and suckout or massive opponent punts so basically he ran Moon/Yang hot
but in the ppc he played great and the combo completely changes how people view the win
How is it more somebodies business that Grinder has 30 million in cashes?
Would it be better for you if they only showed accumulated buy ins for the top 100 money list?
Honestly it's not but it's better than having his net poker results public or to make it worse his net gambling results.
If player X wants to sell you a package why does that entitle you to my net results. They're none of your business. And not only that it's horrible for poker.
Most people are fine with their gross winnings being published - almost none want their net results published.
If you're staking someone or buying pieces and you're trusting them to pay you for a big score you should trust that they're winning players.
Now I do think when people sell action they should be transparent about net results over a large period of time but that shouldnt involved people who have nothing to do with that transaction to the detriment of poker.
I would need a more compelling argument for why its horrible for poker than "borg sure is sure its so"
I would need a more compelling argument for why its horrible for poker than "borg sure is sure its so"
Because most people lose long term. Most people don't want to be known as losers. So a lot less losing players would play.
Any more hard hitting questions that a six year old would be able to figure out the answer to?
Lets say casinos could track all gambling wins and losses. Should they publish that info? Should fanduel and draftkings? Of course not.Losing players often delude themselves into thinking they win but even ones who know they lose rightly don't want that as public info because it's nobody's business.I hate scammers but cutting down some on scammers at the expense of people who
I don’t think someone should publish everyone’s buy-ins for every random tournament.
But I believe there’s a good argument that the World Series of Poker is a uniquely public sporting event for which no one can reasonably expect anonymity, especially now that everyone can be tracked through the app.
Given this, I think that tracking buy-ins and winnings for the World Series would be good for poker overall and grow public interest in the game. Like, can you imagine how much -less- popular any major professional sports league would be if they didn’t track every player’s stats?
I don’t think someone should publish everyone’s buy-ins for every random tournament.But I believe there’s a good argument that the World Series of Poker is a uniquely public sporting event for which no one can reasonably expect anonymity, especially now that everyone can be tracked through the app.Given this, I think that tracking buy-ins and winnings for the World Series would
Poker benefits more from the myth of crushers and easy $$$ than it does from the harsh reality that most WSOP participants are losing gobs of money.
There is no analogy to be found with sports like golf, football, and basketball where players do not front money to participate.
If the Grinder really only had 20% of himself I kinda feel bad for the guy. After taxes he won like a million dollars
I don’t think someone should publish everyone’s buy-ins for every random tournament.But I believe there’s a good argument that the World Series of Poker is a uniquely public sporting event for which no one can reasonably expect anonymity, especially now that everyone can be tracked through the app.How does people knowing that probably 85-90 percent of players
Do you think wsop wants net winnings posted?
Pro athletes get paid to play their sports.
It's not a good analogy.
Pro poker players need losing players to feed the poker economy.
If you embarrass these players a lot of them stop playing.
How would this possibly grow poker?
Any of us would happily ride the bench in the NBA and made a couple of million a year with shitty stats. There is nothing embarrassing about that.
And to top it off those stats bring more eye balls to the sport bc of dfs and gambling. Total opposite of poker.
Most losing gamblers don't want to be known for losing at gambling. It can even be bad for their business.
