need some tips/thoughts on first time FLO8 session
I played 30 hrs in two day span at orleans in LV, if you were at teh 4-8 tables you prolly know who I am
I ended up being
I have no idea what amok feels was confusing about that sentence or how he thought it could have implied that deuceblocker didn't know what "open" meant in context."It is not at all clear that a GTO open from LJ is playable in a 4/8 game. "translation to clarify -"It is not at all clear that [X] is playable in a 4/8 game [, where there will almost always be limpers before the a
Yeah, that troll was really running amok. I specifically used the word "open" to mean how you would play in a tough game as opposed to a multiway pot in a low stakes game. I don't see how this is idiotic. I am pretty precise with terminology, and anyway it is only terminology.
I agree that we need to take into account the possibility that someone is trolling.
Isn't it blatantly obvious that a situation is completely different if there are limpers to you in LJ or if the pot is unopened? How do those limpers lead to a conclusion that "It is not at all clear a GTO open from LJ is playable in a 4/8 game" (a very precise wording by deuceblocker according to him) when IT IS NOT THE SAME SPOT EVEN IN THAT CASE and a solver will not raise the same hands in these two different scenarios.
So was this just your clumsy way of saying that the pot will rarely be unopened, so knowing a solver open range will not be so useful? I mean you could have just said that, but you implied that what solver does is not "playable". It is playable, it's a very good place to start from, but the spot might occur more rarely than in a game where people play better.
all the 8/16 and 15/30 Omaha players there say the 4/8 game is mostly UNBEATABLE. some of the 4/8 regs disagree
I thought even if you're winning 1-2 BB an hour you are "winning" even tho it comes out to 4-8$ an hour. this is assuming the kill is on for about 20-30% of your hands. if the kill isn't out a certain percentage im not sure its beatable. I think its 7-8$ drop ( maybe this is why solver discussion was had? im sure at a 4/8 with that type of drop. is it possible you really really need to be careful of some starting hands to play and since its soo tight with rake we need to play for ! as much as possible for drop implications? idk i was thinking in terms of microstakes online where we need to ! as much as possible with tighthands we play more than call due to the unbalance in rake?
Also I went back and played this summer. played 8/16. and I was down 300-400$ after about 20 hours of total play iirc. pretty shitty and poor play of me, I did make a gross fold when in a 600$ kill pot on turn when I had nut flush draw and 2nd nut BD low draw , it was a kill pot to being went raise reraise back to me and I folded for some ****ign reason getting all the odds in the ****ing world. I didn't play anyone off or pay off 2nd nuts but whats digusting it was mainly me just folding flops or bad turns in kill pots
if I go again I need to stop folding my A34xss or A45xss hands in these loose passive games MP/LP like I was most the time and also I think its smart ofme in most of these games just to raise 60%+ of my (A2)xx if I am in LP. my VPIP is like 9 and i feel i can call more in late position at these tables with some holdings im folding like I mentioned above. def feel im playing far too tight still
just felt like **** this because there's no way any of you would be losers in most the tables I played.. :(
edit* I also get there will be some volatility when a certain reg or two (if you know them), 3! hands like 456Tss, A779ss, AQ9T, pretty much 70% of his range where each pot is 100-250+$ and is a kill pot and im nutpeddling whiffing flops, in what i deem to be volatile games like that there is no way me just nutpeddling waiting for A2 am I +ev when 2nd and 3rd nuts might be just as good and I cant differentiate or adjust to that. also I prolyl need to 3! A23x A34x hands as well in those games i assume. just feel bad since im not playing well pre or adjusting well to table dynamics like that when it occurs for 45mins or hour before breaks and busts
all the 8/16 and 15/30 Omaha players there say the 4/8 game is mostly UNBEATABLE. some of the 4/8 regs disagreeI thought even if you're winning 1-2 BB an hour you are "winning" even tho it comes out to 4-8$ an hour. this is assuming the kill is on for about 20-30% of your hands. if the kill isn't out a certain percentage im not sure its beatable. I think its 7-8$ drop ( maybe t
why not practice your lo8 game all year long playing for micros/small stakes online?
i would love to.
I still think issue would be I play too tight , as I said in the post above
