Nuts

Both young and older people are often awful players and cocky. Old people will have lost for 20 years straight and still think they are knowledgeable because they've been playing poker for 20 years.

90% of players are going to be finding themselves trying to dig out of a hole, that's the nature of low stakes raked poker.

This is true WPN
There’s certainly old people that are fish too.

I guess I’m trying to point to a better way on a learn poker site. Being cocky is kinda necessary in poker, but you must play in a logical way. If one person shows up next time and grinds, instead of spewing, I will be happy and it will be worth the crap thrown at me.

You don’t have to pay any attention to me, but I am here to help.

Help in what way? Most here have literally played millions of hands. Do you have some good tells or info to divulge besides limp calling with 45 and flopping the nuts vs a fish with an overpair?

im not sure this entire forum has played a million hands combined to be honest. pretty much the entirety dont play online and play 1/3

Played more than a million myself. I'd assume a decent portion have done some online play. Doesn't take that long to rack up a lot of hands 6 tabling online.

at non zoom its probably close to a year? of full time play 6 tabling (~550 hands / hour which is generous). entire forum is rec and plays the lowest stakes offered live while avoiding online (relevant because they are obviously not putting in anything close to 1500+ hours a year). i would guess most people on here average <25k hands per year and stop posting after around a year or 2

I've played more than a million hands.

I have a sneaky suspicion that there’s a lot of lurkers here too scared to post anything, because the vultures will swarm. Some of these people might appreciate my ideas. I can tell pretty obviously it’s not all seasoned players here, by some of the immaturity displayed.

I can make any play that feels right, solver says, doesn’t tell me what to do. I have my own style. People insulting me is funny. I’m a master of self-defense, in excellent shape at 68. I’m just not your typical old man, so y’all don’t bother me.

But for some, the swarm of vultures is scary

You simply haven't posted anything of value. You made a play that's borderline acceptable ( I wouldn't say it's bad or horrible) and you flopped the nuts vs a fish with an overpair.

Just answer the question of how that helps anyone? You deflect as well as politicians.

Jason Su calls it middle management. People just following orders - solver orders. I bring a different perspective. Something to think about, from a long life of thinking about poker strategy.

So as brilliant as you are, I guess there are some people that think outside the box like me

No, this thread was a disaster. I was trying to make a point and everything else I did was so bad that people like you missed it. You are locked into your politics and just want to keep ranting. It time for this thread to end donk. Everyone thinks you’re a genius and I’m an idiot, so we’re good.

The point was that more than a few players that look competent on the outside, play a very weak game. Don’t be fooled

I await another comment, I’m sure it’s coming

Grunch:

PRE - I've learned through painful experience that playing middling SC's multi-way rarely ends well. I'd be careful about over-limping SC's from MP, and more careful about over-calling raises with them.

FLOP - I've learned through painful experience that slow-playing big hands we make with middling SC's isn't the way to maximize value. I'm not saying we'd necessarily donk the flop, but I might consider it rather than check-raising, depending on our reads and stack depths.

Like, if we think V is going to spaz-raise a donk, then by all means, let's donk. If he's going to over-fold to a donk, let's check. Most low-stakes players don't over-fold to donks. No one wants to get bluffed off their hand by a single bet.

But if we check, I think we absolutely have to check-raise when he bets, because it will be hard to get stacks in by the river if we don't, and there are a crap-ton of action killing cards that can come out on this super-dynamic board.

When he makes it $40, my usual line would be to x/r to a massive size, but on this board, where we can have all the sets, some 2P, and some straights, I might just x/r to 3x, and pray to the poker gods he has a big PP that wants to play for stacks.

I'm not offended.

I'm 53, and I play pretty LAG, but with those LAG tendencies somewhat constrained by a reasonably solid understanding of theory, and a lot of live experience in both tournaments and cash, going back 25+ years.

You guys are...there's no better way to put this...wrong.

It's not that you can't turn an aggro kid's aggression against him. Of course you can. But you're playing in a pool with opponents who are generally going to be getting better over time. Even the bad recs can read a book or watch YT videos and improve (I know, because I was a bad rec, and I improved by reading and watching YT videos).

Speaking as an older guy, these posts read as being insanely arrogant about younger players. Yay, you played a hand you shouldn't have played, flopped well, and trapped your opponent, who apparently was...again, there's no better way to put this...terrible.

A good player isn't going to gift-wrap his stack for you with 1P the way this kid did. Congrats. You stacked a kid who is probably still learning the game. I'd hope so, if he's stacking off with (pardon the theory) bottom of range, when a good player would have all the 2P+ in his range.

Would you post this hand if he fast-rolled a full house? Because if I'm V, and I'm at your table, I'm going to show you a boat here, a lot.

If FreeCard is trolling in this thread, he is trolling with all his other posts. He really seems to think that way.

You’re likely a good player. I’m not attacking anyone young or old, but simply saying that the coolest looking, chip shufflers can be poor players often. This was no 1st timer stacking off, but I was near positive he had no boat.

I think this may have struck a chord with some of the young guys here that maybe resemble this guy. If you show up (at the felt or on this site) thinking you are better than everyone else, karma is coming.

Hey, this was one hand. I’m condemned, yet I rarely, rarely get out of line & this is why I’m attacked. I don’t loosen up because I’m getting ready to leave & won’t be back until next week. Every hand gets my full attention.

This was an anomaly, it was a bs raise from the button that could have been anything pre-flop. Another guy called & I closed the action with a speculative hand. It’s the crime of the century.

Preflop is a losing play. 54s is easily dominated. You could play a small pp this way, and have better chances of stacking someone with an overpair. Maybe OK to raise or limp/call with T9s/98s/Axs. Donk play to limp/call suited junk like this.

Have to raise flop. A lot of cards, like what hit, mean you no longer have the nuts or could kill the action.

Easy call to his push. A full house would probably try to gii on 2 streets rather than overbet push. You could be drawing dead, but have to call.

I saw a hand on Crush Live Poker where someone raised 65s UTG+1 at 2/5 and called a 3!. Wound up stacking AK, calling a river shove with a pair of 6s. Not sure callers play was good preflop.

Generally, though, this hand is worse playing multiway. If you wanted to raise big, it wouldn't be as bad as limp/calling.

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