Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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Hamas is free to return the hostages at any time. Whenever they do, the Israeli govt will immediately lose its leverage to continue carrying out such a plan.
Would work even better in thwarting Israel if Hamas and other militant groups pledged to disarm in favor of international peacekeepers.
Not sure they want the hostages back.
How Netanyahu Prolonged the War in Gaza ...
(long article explaining the problems Bibi has, abroad and with his extremist ministers)
Hamas is free to return the hostages at any time. Whenever they do, the Israeli govt will immediately lose its leverage to continue carrying out such a plan.
Would work even better in thwarting Israel if Hamas and other militant groups pledged to disarm in favor of international peacekeepers.
Would work even better to hasten the ethnic cleaning programme with Palestinians deported to South Sudan or suchlike, sure.
Interesting when it’s Hamas or the Houthis performing military actions, all of a sudden the far left doesn’t care about sanctity of life. They can’t release the hostages because they gain something strategic from kidnapping and starving and killing hostages.
Giving up the game you like to play.
the things you are reading about what those doctors purportedly said aren't what they actually said, italian prohamas media has invented those declarations.That's the level of discourse we have to deal with.Btw it's 1 woman, and her mother was with her, and she if puffy and not slim at all in the photo when the ambulance took the daughter, thus completly disproving any notion t
It's oddly convenient how the media is just always lying and people aren't in fact starving but they're overweight.
At some point you must see the absurdity in constantly claiming something is fake.
I get that you don’t like these comments because they counter the singular argument you’ve been posting in here, but the reality is it was never a simple walk in the park for Israel. The Axis of Resistance intended to do much more damage than they did, and the fact that they were thwarted so easily can’t be completely explained by sheer military superiority. The pager attack
Yet are completely incapable of taking down a bunch of savages in a strategic matter. Just turn Gaza into rubble and keep going till you can finally claim the land.
Let me guess why. It's the tunnels right? No wait, it's Hamas hiding in bottles of water being carried by 7 year old girls.
Hamas still has their strongholds where they rule with an iron fist, in no small part because they take all the UN aid and use it as leverage to control the people.
whoops. who could have seen this coming
But there was already a genocide before october 7th according to you, so you’re an unreliable narrator.
Not even Hamas would say there are no hostages
Since almost all Hamas does 24/7 is lie, they most certainly would lie about the hostages if it helped their selfish interests.
It became obvious long ago the Hamas doesn't care any more about dead babies and starving Palestinians than the IDF does.
It's a war between two horrible regimes.
But there was already a genocide before october 7th according to you, so you’re an unreliable narrator.
Not even Hamas would say there are no hostages
they are literally in the IDF. ofc they arent hostages. calling them POWs, concentration camp guards, prison guards, terrorists, pedophile rapists, etc is far more accurate.
It's oddly convenient how the media is just always lying and people aren't in fact starving but they're overweight. At some point you must see the absurdity in constantly claiming something is fake. Yet are completely incapable of taking down a bunch of savages in a strategic matter. Just turn Gaza into rubble and keep going till you can finally claim the land.Let me guess why.
What exactly has Hamas done to Israel since Oct 7th? Israel systematically killed all of their leadership and experienced fighters while Hamas hides in tunnels. Idk where you’re getting the water bottle gibberish from but maybe you just haven’t been paying attention. Why would the IDF put their soldiers in unnecessary danger to go clear the rats out of the tunnels?
Should I assume you have no answer for why Israel is a money sink?
they are literally in the IDF. ofc they arent hostages. calling them POWs, concentration camp guards, prison guards, terrorists, pedophile rapists, etc is far more accurate.
And then jalfrezi gets mad when I compare you to the schizophrenic homeless guy who shits himself on the subway
Why would the IDF put their soldiers in unnecessary danger to go clear the rats out of the tunnels?
What a magical choice of words there.
What exactly has Hamas done to Israel since Oct 7th? Israel systematically killed all of their leadership and experienced fighters while Hamas hides in tunnels. Idk where you’re getting the water bottle gibberish from but maybe you just haven’t been paying attention. Why would the IDF put their soldiers in unnecessary danger to go clear the rats out of the tunnels? Should I
Systematically lol. Bomb and pray. From an army you were just bragging out how advanced they are. Can't kill a bunch of rats without killing 10s of thousands of women and children.
I didn't see you ask. I apologize. I'm against MY taxes going to other nations before our own problems are fixed. I'm especially against sending MY taxes to countries that use that money to kill innocent women and children.
Systematically lol. Bomb and pray. From an army you were just bragging out how advanced they are. Can't kill a bunch of rats without killing 10s of thousands of women and children. I didn't see you ask. I apologize. I'm against MY taxes going to other nations before our own problems are fixed. I'm especially against sending MY taxes to countries that use that money to kill inno
You must not pay much attention to where your tax money goes.
Also, yeah, systematically. Pay more attention.
There’s no point in coming at me if you’re mostly uninformed.
Gonna pull a victor and post some screenshots. All this info is easily googleable and found within multiple trustworthy sources.
oh, they wiped out Hamas and destroyed the axis. good point Doyle. now tell me why they are still blowing up small children at a Nazi like pace?
I’m sure you have an answer already and don’t need me. I’m just educating the uneducated.
I saw the video with the girl fetching water. You can slow the video down completely and you never see anything falling, say from a drone. And the blast damage was inconsistent with something falling from the sky and WAY too small for most Israeli bombs.
Based on the video evidence looks like she stepped on an IED or pipe bomb on ground. So looks like a Palestinian girl tripped one of Hamas booby traps; and they made a bad faith claim it was from Israel, and bad faith Al Jazeera ran with it.
Probably the reason the camera was positioned so well to capture the incident* is the IED was planted in a spot where the expectation was an IDF soldier would be the first to walk down the street, so this was supposed to be one of the red triangle videos you guys all love so much.
Given we know Hamas sets booby traps everywhere, and even brags about it; it is certain some giant % of Palestinian civilian deaths are from them tripping the booby traps.
The IDF says one of the reasons they have to knock down so many buildings is they are all booby trapped, and they dont have the manpower or resources (and very reasonably dont want to risk their troops and dogs) to go through every building and disable every booby trap, so they have to just destroy the building.
*And even more importantly anchored so the video wasn't disturbed and kept recording. If this was just a dude holding a camera he would have dropped it when the blast hit. This camera was most likely purposefully set up to capture this blast. It was just supposed to be an IDF soldier or vehicle.
It just goes to show just how fake the narrative of IDF murdering civilians is, is that after almost 2 years of war most of the minuscule amount of evidence they can come up with is still fake.
It is actually interesting that it has been 2 days and BBC, Sky News, Reuters, etc. haven't touched this story yet. Most likely even they can see this is most likely not what Al Jazeera is claiming, and doesn't want to open themselves up (again) to posting fake Hamas propaganda and having to walk it back.
theres never been an investigation so we dont know how many innocent people were killed and by whom on Oct 7th. as reported extensively in Palestinian and Israeli press, the IDF intentionally slaughtered their own citizens at an insane rate.
The entie scheme was planned in the cemetery in Prague, at a meeting on the night of a full moon. We were 12 representatives of the 12 tribes. We wore black robes and attached our real noses, each one a meter long.
After drinking the blood of the 12-year-old Christian boy, we drew a pentagram on the floor. We ended the evening at Rockefeller's bank, swimming in a pool full of the bills we had stolen
QFT
“Senior Israeli official flees US after pedophilia arrest, sparking debate over Israeli impunity“
As a foreign official he should’ve had his passport seized. This isn’t the first time this has happened. This is a disgrace to the Jewish people how the Israeli government operates.
“How Jewish American pedophiles hide from justice in Israel”
There is a level of evil and darkness to the IDF and the Israeli government and their deranged supporters in America, which thank God it’s quite minimal. The majority of the American people oppose the Netanyahu government …and I do believe most Jews in America and Israel want change for the better.
The entie scheme was planned in the cemetery in Prague, at a meeting on the night of a full moon. We were 12 representatives of the 12 tribes. We wore black robes and attached our real noses, each one a meter long.After drinking the blood of the 12-year-old Christian boy, we drew a pentagram on the floor. We ended the evening at Rockefeller's bank, swimming in a pool full of th
no, it was planned by the heroic Palestinian resistance who were able to outsmart the Jewish Supremacists despite multiple orders of magnitude less resources. its gotta sting that the Untermensch were able to achieve such a victory. probably why you guys lash out and murder children at a rate never seen in modern history.
man every single horrible person on my twitter feed, and every single politician i hate in my country (both determinations that happened years ago) is pro pal.People i know for a certainty to be actual monsters (for my morals ofc), like pro lockdown people, all pro pal.It's like flat-earthism at this point, the worst people in society select themselves on the propal issue with
That’s wishful thinking. Record numbers of Americans on the left and right no longer Support Israel.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/692948/u.s.....
People can see right through the Hasbara, which often what they do is they take one story that has an error in it and attempt to say “shut your mouth about the 50,000 to 200,000 dead Palestinians …. just look at this one story it was miss reported.”
Or of course they highlight some kook as being representative of the pro Palestinian or anti-Israel side. Everyone sees right through that. As there are people from all walks of life, different religions, including so many Jews in America who are critical of the war in Gaza.
It all depends on who is writing the history and what people want to hear.Muhamad is said to have raped, enslaved and genocided entire tribes (mostly Jews, talk about time being a flat circle) and is regarded by 1/4 of the world as the greatest human who ever lived. The perfect man. The Mongols killed so much of humanity at the time, it temporarily affected CO2 levels in the
Here it is again look at this description of Islam/Muslims^. Does anyone in this thread See anybody who is critical of the IDF talking about Judaism or Jews in general like this? If you have show it.
It’s really interesting that what we do have itt are folks who make legitimate criticisms of the IDF… and then you have some extremist pro-Israel troll come in and make a dumb one-liner “You must believe in Jewish space lasers or blood libels”
This thread is a exercise in hypocrisy by the pro Netanyahu people. How they claim that basically it is far left-wing radicals and radical right wing antisemites who are carrying the water for criticizing Israel. A blatant and utter misrepresentation. They lie all the time about people being “antisemitic”. But then they engage in the most vitriolic anti-Muslim stuff one can imagine.
