RFK - Make America Healthy? again?
RFK - Make America Healthy? again?
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RFK - Make America Healthy? again?

I believe this guy is going to need his own thread.

14 February 2025 at 09:30 PM
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by tame_deuces m

This post truly exemplifies the intellectual death of modern US conservatism.The barest minimum of research would have taught you that Susan Monarez is a microbiologist and expert on infectious disease transmission and prevention. You would even have learned that she is not a medical doctor, undercutting your own joke.I can't really find material on her nefarious pronouns, dan

Its just a retaliation from stupid people who were made to feel stupid by smarter people

Self reflection is hard. Digging in and being bitter and toxic is easy

The internet has allowed the dumbest and worst ideas find commonality with other ******s who have horrible ideas where in the past they were just ostracized from society



now i understand why i didn't succeed as much as i should have academically


Seems if you take enough you can gain superhuman abilities.

Lamenting about the health of America’s youth, Kennedy, who does not hold a medical degree, espoused misinformation about juvenile diabetes and autism rates while claiming he can look at a child and determine they are sick.

“I know what a healthy child is supposed to look like,” Kennedy said during a press briefing with Texas Governor Greg Abbott, who signed a Make America Healthy Again bill on Wednesday.

“I’m looking at kids while I walk through the airports today, as I walk down the street, and I see these kids that are just overburdened with mitochondrial challenges, inflammation, you can tell it from their faces, from their body movement, and from their lack of social connection,” Kennedy continued.


by tame_deuces m

This post truly exemplifies the intellectual death of modern US conservatism.The barest minimum of research would have taught you that Susan Monarez is a microbiologist and expert on infectious disease transmission and prevention. You would even have learned that she is not a medical doctor, undercutting your own joke.I can't really find material on her nefarious pronouns, dan

Please re-read the post I was responding to. Then get back to me. Thanks.

addendum: your post exemplifies the intellectual death of folks who can't read.


If RFK manages to quit the war on vaping that both republican (trump I) and democrat admins have been waging for a while, that's an exceptionally good development for society, and not only in the USA.

With vaping fully normalize comes the possibility of very good longitudinal studies that will show onece and for all the brutal, insane, antiscientific attack to it was completly baseless and waged to protect both tax revenue for states and localities and tobacco company profits


There is currently an exodus of experts from the CDC


I'm still trying to figure out what the endgame is for all of this anti-science bullshit. What's RFK' Jr's goal or is he such an idiot this all makes sense to him?


by coordi m

There is currently an exodus of experts from the CDC

if it's the people who supported lockdowns and masking, it's a good thing that they never again have any role in the public sector


by AquaSwing m

I'm still trying to figure out what the endgame is for all of this anti-science bullshit. What's RFK' Jr's goal or is he such an idiot this all makes sense to him?

the goal is dismantling every power center of leftism. Every institution that has any power to change society which is inhabited by leftists has to be deprived of all power.


btw this is one of the "experts" resigning from the CDC (Demetre C. Daskalakis)



Thank god we will all be able to vape again!

Oh wait we could already do that, except not have fun fruity flavors that were designed to be marketed to kids.


by GTO2.0 m

Thank god we will all be able to vape again!

Oh wait we could already do that, except not have fun fruity flavors that were designed to be marketed to kids.

war on vaping is still ongoing. Any new vaping device has to get FDA approval, that has to go. ALL flavouring should be 100% allowed. Vaping simply should not be under FDA discretion at all in any portion of it. Think wearing a hat. Vaping should be as legal an unrestricted has wearing a hat.

Vaping is still compared to smoking for bans, it should be *illegal* to ban vaping. Like federally illegal. You should be able to vape in the queue to the cashier at the supermarket, in hospitals, in airports and so on.

Localities cannot infringe your rights in unlimited ways and without certain proof of danger to others they cannot tell you not to vape anywhere. That's what the federal gvmnt should exist for: to block local powers to infringe on your freedom.

Btw the FDA just made it illegal to mandate covid vaccines (a massive win for freedom) by removing the EUA


imagine banning porn because children "could get to watch it", that's what the excuse to ban flavors for vaping is.

It's insane you support it GTO2, i really do not believe you support that, you are smart and not a leftist


Vaping is banned in grocery stores because it’s nicotine (or thc) so the same rules apply. There is no war on vaping

Weirdest thing you’ve ever ranted about tbh

I fly with thc vapes all the time and basically vape anywhere outside I want as well


by coordi m

Vaping is banned in grocery stores because it’s nicotine (or thc) so the same rules apply. There is no war on vaping

Weirdest thing you’ve ever ranted about tbh

it's banned even at 0 nicotine so what the actual ****ing **** are you talking about? and why would nicotine vaping be the same as nicotine combustion in tobacco? there is no second hand vaping the molecules don't bind the same if you smell the vaping vapour you get 0 nicotine.

Not that nicotine is dangerous (it isn't), it's the combustion which is cancerogenic

Ofc in italy i actually do vape everywhere unlike in the USA. With everywhere i mean that i vaped when my wife gave birth, in the room , and she did as well.


If 95% of vapes are for nicotine and weed why would carve out an exception for flavor juicers

Kinda sounds like a nightmare to enforce

Edit: took me 5 seconds with google to debunk the 2nd hand vape thing.

I’m seeing a pattern of Luciom not likeing science that says the opposite of what he wants it to say


by coordi m

If 95% of vapes are for nicotine and weed why would carve out an exception for flavor juicers

Kinda sounds like a nightmare to enforce

Edit: took me 5 seconds with google to debunk the 2nd hand vape thing.

I’m seeing a pattern of Luciom not likeing science that says the opposite of what he wants it to say

you "debunked" with science produced by people with no connection to the tobacco industry nor to pharmaceutical industry? or you only believe the science that agrees with you?

Keep in mind that to ban, you have to prove it beyond reasonable doubt, we don't restrict freedoms on "hunches" unless we are fascist right?

oh wait you were among those who agreed with mask mandates perhaps?

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This is a scientifical outlet from the UK

The best evidence available in humans shows e-cigarettes are far less harmful than smoking. For example, one study found significantly lower levels of exposure to harmful chemicals in people who switched from smoking to vaping compared with those who continued to smoke. These levels were similar to people using nicotine replacement therapy (NRT). There’s also no good evidence that second-hand e-cigarette vapour is harmful to bystanders

https://news.cancerresearchuk.org/2021/0...

Keep in mind just one such evidence is more than enough to always oppose all bans. You need obvious uncontroversial scientific consensus to support freedom limitations , at a minimum, right?

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And btw even if only one single person in the whole nation vaped without nicotine, his rights are unalianable, and he should still be allowed to vape . And if that makes it harder for you to enforce a ban on others, that's your problem


I think you are taking this off the rails. You keep talking about a ban and I don’t get what you mean. You can’t vape on an airplane or in a grocery store. You can vape vape anywhere you can smoke and even some places you can’t smoke.

A business can decide to let you vape inside it if they really wanted to allow it


by coordi m

I think you are taking this off the rails. You keep talking about a ban and I don’t get what you mean. You can’t vape on an airplane or in a grocery store. You can vape vape anywhere you can smoke and even some places you can’t smoke.

A business can decide to let you vape inside it if they really wanted to allow it

you should be allowed to vape everywhere you are allowed to be. That is, from the pov of legislation. Businesses can arbitrarily limit your freedom in their property in the USA much more than elsewhere but that's a completly different thing.

I am saying that no law should be allowed to exist that limits vaping everywhere, same as no law that limits you wearing a yellow t shirt would be allowed to exist.


by Luciom m

imagine banning porn because children "could get to watch it", that's what the excuse to ban flavors for vaping is.

It's insane you support it GTO2, i really do not believe you support that, you are smart and not a leftist

Basically the entire developed world bans marketing cigarettes to kids already man.

Also the American right IS pushing age verification requirements that are basically attempts to ban porn - although admittedly that has some bipartisan support.

Personally, I don’t really care. It’s so far down on the list of things to care about that bringing it up to support RFK is asinine.


by GTO2.0 m

Basically the entire developed world bans marketing cigarettes to kids already man. Also the American right IS pushing age verification requirements that are basically attempts to ban porn - although admittedly that has some bipartisan support. Personally, I don’t really care. It’s so far down on the list of things to care about that bringing it up to support RFK is

And what has that to do with vaping bans... for adults? most of the world bans porn to kids already.

I do care about personal freedom in day to day life more than basically everything else. Nothing else is more important if you include to that, personal economic freedom. Actually almost everything else is irrelevant. 90-99% of my politics are about making it impossible, illegal for the gvmnt to mess with my life,including taking my stuff to do whatever ofc, or telling me what i can do with my stuff.


by Luciom m

I do care about personal freedom in day to day life more than basically everything else

How about the freedom to harm others ? Where does that fit in ?


Rfk is the new American shaman .
U.S. Science at its peak !


by Luciom m

And what has that to do with vaping bans... for adults? most of the world bans porn to kids already.I do care about personal freedom in day to day life more than basically everything else. Nothing else is more important if you include to that, personal economic freedom. Actually almost everything else is irrelevant. 90-99% of my politics are about making it impossible, illegal

Now Lucian is an anarchist …

What is the simple meaning of anarchy?
absence of government
a. : absence of government. b. : a state of lawlessness or political disorder due to the absence of governmental authority. the city's descent into anarchy.

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