Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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If you were in active service now in the IDF, targetting civilians would be your bread and butter daily activity, probably high fiving your fellow murderers with each successful kill.
Some of the lucky few escaped with “only” their testicles missing:
I think the resistance during WW2 were entitled to do what they did, and I also think if you were Palestinian you'd be active in their resistance now.
The resistance in northern italy, at least in my region, was a lot worse than the nazi occupation was. They killed a lot more civilians in the week after the allies liberated us, than the nazi did in 2 years, and they did absolutely nothing at all that helped liberation arrive even slightly, while they stole food from civilians for 2 years in the mountains.
They were also fighting to substitute nazi occupation with a marxist revolution which would have been even worse obviously (just ask Poland).
Yes, Hamas is exactly like the partigiani in emilia romagna: enemies of civilians as much or more than foreign enemies, a complete cancer whose existence is strictly bad for civilians.
The resistance in northern italy, at least in my region, was a lot worse than the nazi occupation was. They killed a lot more civilians in the week after the allies liberated us, than the nazi did in 2 years, and they did absolutely nothing at all that helped liberation arrive even slightly, while they stole food from civilians for 2 years in the mountains.They were also fighti
So nazi were Not the ennemies of civilians too ?
lol , ok buddy …
Yes very surprise those that supported nazis and killing 6 millions Jews got killed a lot in Italy .
What surprise ….no no you are not a fascist lol
So nazi were Not the ennemies of civilians too ?
lol , ok buddy …
Yes very surprise those that supported nazis and killing 6 millions Jews got killed a lot in Italy .
What surprise ….no no you are not a fascist lol
they were. The red resistance was just worse. At least in my region to be clear.
In the south the resistance was far less red (for more "white", royalists), and they helped allies conquer Naples for example much quicker than otherwise.
In the far north where they had the actual last remnant of a fascist state (the republica di Salò) they freed prisoners and stuff.
In my region, it was almost only communists and they killed more civilians than the nazis.
We had 1500-2000 people killed by the nazis (2 main massacres) in 2 years in my region, and around 8k slaughtered * IN A WEEK* by the resistance.
It was a world war and a huge amount was at stake. I’m sure you did something to justify it.
there was no world war anymore. Italy had been liberated (by allies). They went and executed people they disliked, often landlords they paid rent to in the past, business owners, you know the normal kulaki genocide. Someone just killed the guy who had married the girl he would have wanted to marry and the like.
That's what leftism is
they were. The red resistance was just worse. At least in my region to be clear.In the south the resistance was far less red (for more "white", royalists), and they helped allies conquer Naples for example much quicker than otherwise.In the far north where they had the actual last remnant of a fascist state (the republica di Salò) they freed prisoners and stuff.In my region, it
They might have been worst in your region but they certainly not worst then facking nazis .
But hey u have many Israelis friends dunking on Palestinians here like you, that probably will defend your take about nazis and how sad all collaborators of nazis should be mourn …..
‘We took the gloves off’: ex-IDF chief confirms Gaza casualties over 200,000
Retired general Herzi Halevi says ‘not once’ had legal advice constrained Israel’s military decisions in the strip
A former Israeli army commander, Herzi Halevi, has confirmed that more than 200,000 Palestinians have been killed or injured in the war in Gaza, and that “not once” in the course of the conflict were military operations inhibited by legal advice.
Halevi stepped down as chief of staff in March after leading the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) for the first 17 months of the war, which is now approaching its second anniversary.
The retired general told a community meeting in southern Israel earlier this week that more than 10% of Gaza’s 2.2 million population had been killed or injured – “more than 200,000 people”. That estimate is notable as it is close to the current figures provided by Gaza’s health ministry, which Israeli officials have frequently dismissed as Hamas propaganda, though the ministry figures have been deemed reliable by international humanitarian agencies.
so he basically confirms the Khamas health ministry numbers. yet again the White Empire reports on something the Palestinians have been telling us since day 1 only after its confirmed by a Supremacist.
Did you get to this part of the article?
So the guy also says Israel is operating within International Law but that’s not an important point to highlight.
I'd say that's for the courts to decide.
I suspect The 200k+ casualties (and still going up) will be very hard to defend legally. If he is correct of course.
Don’t read Knights00 posts in this forum?All the “Jews attacking Christian” stuff he is posting about is straight off of what right wing influencers like Tucker are pushing. You can actually see when he started posting about this kind of stuff, and it is exactly when Tucker and Co. began their coordinated smear campaign of complete nonsense.But yeah, right
Here’s a guy who lies nonstop. And apparently is now one of the people who actually doesn’t respond to people he talks about. But responds to them in passing. Very cowardly and dumb.
The criticism of my views that you bring up is about a critique of foreign governments. That’s it you have nothing you never have , you never will. You are engaging in the exact type of radical left-wing cancel culture you claimed to be against. For example, smearing somebody as a racist or bigot because of a policy disagreement.
I’ve always said I respect Judaism for once and for all Tell us what you think about Islam. A huge portion of the pro Palestinian movement is led by Jews. I’m not here for gotcha moments. It is of course true that there are some number of Jewish supremacists in the world and in Israel who hate Christians.
“Jews attacking Christians”
Yes that has happened and in fact many Jews including Zionist Jews who support Israel have brought it up and criticized it. Of course you are arguing in bad faith all the time and will say stupid stuff like “right wingers who criticizes Israel love anti-Zionist Jews” You leave out huge portions of information, you know none of this debate of ours really matters though. You’re just here to try to win points instead of actually presenting what is going on. The vast majority of the civilized world, including so many Jews(including Zionists) are abhorred by the Netanyahu government. You can spin it all you want into something that it is not… you will not prevail.
Now you will respond probably as you have in the past by some bullshit about me not talking about Muslims attacking Christians in the Middle East. Obviously that has happened and Christians have attacked Muslims, Muslims have attacked Christians. In many wars in the past centuries. For you to infer though that somebody is anti-Jewish because they don’t talk about things as much as you want them to or if they talk about Jewish attacks on Christians and they do not bring up Muslim attacks against Christians in the same post ..is a bad faith argument, it’s a smear tactic too…. do better, my friend
Well everyone reading this can probably expect you not even to answer the question. A terrible way of posting indeed…this is arguing in bad faith. Clear it all up. Tell us what you think about Islam???
By the way, I’m not a right winger. I consider myself to be a traditional Democrat…admiring the likes of of Franklin Roosevelt to John F. Kennedy. I consider myself to be a liberal. I am against modern day left-wing cancel culture, and this new phenomenon of a portion of pro Israel people trying to cancel and smear people by calling them Racist with no evidence …simply calling them racist for having a policy disagreement.
White Arabs!I don't care about the rules of the site or the way of discussion here, but to claim that what I wrote is Islamophobic borders on complete stupidity. The inability to conduct a complex discussion about the problems in Muslim society is the metastasis of cancer that has grown from progress, which will eventually destroy the body.Regarding the post - that's exactly wh
Very simple way to address this. Do you believe Muslims are inferior to Jews?
I don’t believe Jews are inferior to Muslims. There it is. So let’s just see what you have to say again it’s very easy to address.
The UN randomly declaring new states is bad and leads to wars. See Israel as an example.
I agree, and most nations were at some point randomly declared which is where a lot of the trouble comes from.
That is killed or injured numbers. Where injuries include PTSD and other things you wouldn’t generally think of as a “casualty”. And I am not picking on Palestinians here, as a lot of Israel “casualty” figures include stuff like this.
I hope you didn’t read that and conclude an estimate of 200,000 dead. I know that is what they want you to do, I just hope you personally didn’t fall for it.
The UN randomly declaring new states is bad and leads to wars. See Israel as an example.
The U.N. isn't declaring a new state. If enough states acknowledge a potential state and are willing to meaningfully ally with it, and those acknowledging states have and use enforcement levers powerful enough to overcome Israel's demonic mission of ethnically cleansing the world, then the new state will be a state. If not, then it won't.
200k casualties is in line with the Khamas health ministry's 60k reported death toll from direct fire. When you factor in the concentration camp conditions, the actual death toll is easily 500k.
That is killed or injured numbers. Where injuries include PTSD and other things you wouldn’t generally think of as a “casualty”. And I am not picking on Palestinians here, as a lot of Israel “casualty” figures include stuff like this. I hope you didn’t read that and conclude an estimate of 200,000 dead. I know that is what they want you to do, I just hope you personally d
I read it as 200k casualties. I think most guardian readers are up to it.
