Israel/Palestine thread

I agree the comparison of the relationship between ISIS and Muslims as a whole is instructive. almost the entire Muslim world rejects ISIS and millions have fought against it. now compare that to Israel...

Perhaps Blue is so angry because he can no longer plausibly deny the black heart of Zionism.

Dude, read Conrad's Heart of Darkness for an insight into the horror you finally glimpsed.

They rammed a car with a synagogue and apparently 6 people have been arrested in connection with the attack. The police are calling it possibly motivated by Islamic terrorism.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/03/uk/manchester-attack-victim-shot-police-intl

CNN

Police admit they shot dead Manchester synagogue victim, as attack puts spotlight on antisemitism in UK | CNN

But an alleged rapist Syrian refugee doing an Islamic terrorism in connection with a cell of other terrorists is not a great look, but we’ll see what the confirmation is.

By the way not sure why it’s relevant if the police shot and killed someone accidentally in the course of a retaking of the synagogue. It’s still ultimately causally and legally attributable to the assailant.

Islamic terrorism does not mean "antisemitism". you guys are so bad at this.

You should be trying your hardest to calm down the support for terrorism in your movement, as if the public begins associating Islam with terrorism they may begin to sympathize once again with Israelis. I mean it seems a pretty short bar to jump over, but it’s pretty tough for the radical left because your ideology is pro-terrorism and anti-democracy.

So it was a Jew-neutral attack which is why the terrorist cell was targeting Jews? Or maybe even a pro-Jew attack?

do you think it is possible for a Jew to be attacked for any reason other than antisemitism?

So it was an anti-Zionist terrorist attack? Like they thought that this terrorist attack would bring attention to the plight in Gaza?

You’d think that you wouldn’t want this attack to be associated with anti-zionism, but ok.

brother I have no idea why this attack occurred. I typically wait for facts and evidence to emerge.

I haven't a clue how the above follows from what I posted.

What do you have against Joseph Conrad?

There are facts and evidence already on the table. The police have already stated that the motive is likely Islamic terrorism. They have arrested multiple people in connection with the attack so the theory is not that it’s a lone crazy person.

You never give the same amount of skepticism to what happens in Gaza. So either apply this standard unilaterally or it just looks like you hate Jews.

Islamic terrorism is not synonymous with antisemitism.

I don't watch her. I'm more interested in the trends. I just gave you big numbers... in the millions. You seem to be conceding the point about the future of MAGA, though, so I'll move on.

Do you have an actual argument about why these theories are spreading other than labeling people insane? In poker, if you see someone operating outside the range of what a player normally does, are you not more likely to scrutinize their actions? Is geopolitics fundamentally different than this? If so, how?

Did I say it was? There are not other facts/evidence?

Can you come up with a non-antisemitic motive?

I think you have it backwards. its on you to proof it was antisemitic in nature. bc when I think of "Islamic terrorism" then I think of 911, Bataclan, Madrid bombing, San Bernardino, Pulse etc and they werent antisemitic.

and if you have "other facts/evidence" then why dont you just say it or link it?

I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but it's a pretty huge faux pas to discuss the Israel/Palestine conflict IRL. Is it really surprising that people feel more comfortable discussing these issues online?

As for your response to my other post, I refer you to the response I just gave to Dunyain. It's going to be tough for you not to resort to ad hominems, but if you can overcome your natural tendencies, I'll be very interested to see if you can provide a cogent answer to the questions I posed.

Yes. There is 2 things going on, which can be illustrated by the titles of these books.

People have been conditioned to support society destroying ideologies. And society is being destroyed as a result.

The evidence is the place/time the attack took place. Synagogue, Yom Kippur. Also there are social media posts that are being attributed to him expressing support for Oct 7 as well he is suspected of being behind a death threat sent to an MP that supported Israel.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchest...

So do you have a better or even equal motive that explains the evidence?

The faux pas in my neck of the woods is showing any support to Israel whatsoever, even in the form of support for a two state solution. It could be different depending on the context.

ok he attacked the synagogue bc of anger over Israel's mass murder of children. so is antisemitism the same as anti-Israel/anti-Zionism? are Jews synonymous with the genocidal Israeli regime? bc I was just gently chided by a mod for pointing out much support Israel draws from the Jewish world. but I guess such comparisons are only acceptable from the pro-genocide side.

lmao so you do want to own this as anti-zionist terrorism? based. personally I think attacking a synagogue because you’re mad at Israel is inherently antisemitic but go off king!!!!

does the synagogue support Israel? does it send money to Israel? does it auction off stolen land? does it indoctrinate future genocidal soldiers?

so was it a good attack or what? is that what you’re claiming?