Israel/Palestine thread

The son of Hamas leader in exile has also been killed. And lots of casualties on other side too.

But yeah, when Hamas announced they were going to liquidate an entire clan, you can understand why said clan might oppose such an outcome, regardless of your open cheerleading for Hamas to do it’s worse.

Obama’s a White Supremacist? Well, at least he didn’t tell the West Bank Arabs to stop clinging to guns & religion.

And so what? Kidnapping people in order to get a bargaining chip in a political conflict is something you have endorsed throughout the thread. It seems the only reason Hamas took the British side of things is that they didn’t want to give up some murderers from their side.

If Hamas had performed the kidnapping you would have endorsed it.

I endorse taking soldiers from tanks to trade with civilians in a national liberation struggle as Hamas did. Not kidnapping tens of thousands of civilians to rape to death as Israeli Supremacists did.

It will come from the same place everything else does.

See this is why some folks think you’re an undercover Zionist. I mean this whole “white supremacy” angle it just doesn’t make sense considering Mizrahi Jews, Sephardi Jews, Ethiopian Jews… do you understand that Mossad and IDF have entire divisions compromised of Jews that look nothing like white people like these are Arab looking Jews they speak fluent Arabic. Iow they don’t look European.

Sometimes it seems like a psy op to get people to think Israel is allied with “the west” against brown people or something like that. Never mind also that a lot of Arabs are very white. And NM the ethnically and religiously diverse populations of the Americas and Western Europe.

So consider switching that up because it takes away from whatever valid point you do make.

TBF nuances are also lost on the pro Israel side itt too… like some of them don’t know or care that Jordan intercepted missiles from Iran that were headed for Israel as they spout the nonsense that “Israel is surrounded by enemies” on a daily basis or that “Israel is fighting for his existence.”

Anyway good to see that because of Trump there is going to be peace in the Middle East. Watch out for false flags though to try and wreck the peace. And let’s hope that this thing prevails and it’s going be good for the stocks, going be good most importantly for humans to avoid bloodshed.

So all the hostages taken on October 7th were “soldiers from tanks” and all the prisoners that Israel “kidnapped” were “tens of thousands of civilians rape[d] to death”?

Source?

You’re really angry that this war is over victor. It must be sad that you won’t be able to jerk off to more dead kids.

False. It has been repeatedly pointed out over and over to Victor and the far left on this forum that both Jordan and Egypt want nothing to do with Gazan refugees and will only take them in if they pay a bunch of money (relatively). That Egypt itself has closed off the border and doesn’t want Palestinians crossing over into their territory.

It has also been pointed out that the West Bank itself is closer to Israel diplomatically than it is to Gaza.

It’s a preposterous lie that there’s anyone left in this thread that somewhat supports Israel that thinks that Israel is surrounded by a pack of crazed Arabs or whatever narrative the far right racists in Israel believes.

The only countries that will accept Gazan refugees have majority White populations.

You don't understand White Supremacy. To use the most illustrative example, do you think Samuel L Jackson's character in Django was supporting White Supremacy?

What you are doing is the liberal identity politics thing. You think bc they are not perfectly white appearing Jews that they can't uphold and utilize the same structures created by the horrors of the White conquest committed by the European White Supremacists of the Americas that included but aren't limited to the genocide of the natives and the chattel slavery of kidnapped African natives.

Genocide of natives and slavery. Can’t think of any other group that does this. Certainly none that start with the letter I or O or M or T.

Tell that to Jabotinsky, who said they are so tenacious an Iron Wall will have to be built to defeat them. Or the British who fought a three year war against them, 1936-1939.

This "Palestinians didn't exist" is absolute crackpot.

-Oh look, more torture and execution videos, with a bunch of little kids cheering it all on. I cant think of a place more deserving of being named a state completely supported by Western tax dollars, or a more deserving leadership group than Hamas.

-Just a reminder the leftist press spent 2 years pretending Israel was doing this, with no evidence but "eyewitness testimony." And then the second it starts going on for real, with Hamas doing it, videos are all over the internet. Because it is 2025 and everything is videod. And suddenly the leftist press is uninterested in the whole thing.

Did the movement for an Arab government in the Mandate of Palestine denote some kind of Palestinian movement, or was it an Arab movement for control over the region of Palestine, because they sought to control it after the collapse of the Ottoman empire?

There wasn’t a Palestinian identity that was separate from the desire for the Arabs to take control of the Mandate of Palestine away from British ownership.

you posted this same video like a month ago btw

Django …ah a movie. Still sure there’s a few folks here there even some Russians who support Nazism ..kind of a weird thing and often motivated by money or some sort of power.

There are all sorts of different types of supremacy. So you’re off on this one big time. There’s Jewish supremacy, Muslim supremacy Christian supremacy, and there’s different types of racial supremacy. White supremacy historically and to this very day vehemently opposes any sort of teamwork or positive generalization of black or Jewish culture.

The idea that a Mizrahi Jew is a white supremacist is nonlogical. Possibly a Jewish supremacist although obviously many are just regular everyday good people. None of them are carrying on the ideology of the KKK or Nazism. Sure they might be connected to some evangelical religious ideology that some portion of conservative evangelicals have in America i.e. Christian Zionism or dispensationalism or rapture ideology….So you’re off.

The Israeli government should pay for this ie pay to rebuild Gaza…and they should take some number of refugees from Gaza. After all, how often do their politicians claim “we are not against Palestinians we’re just against Hamas”…

The “war” was a PR disaster for Israel…. As already shown in this thread Israeli news sources acknowledging it has seen a high level of civilian casualties unparalleled in recent modern warfare.

This is so ahistorical, you don't know what you are talking about. The kaffiyah displaced the fez as standard headwear for all Palestinian males during the 1936-39 rebellion --because there was a community responding in common to a fad. The Palestinian flag dates, IIRC, to 1916. A newspaper called Palestine dates to the 19teens. Yes, there was a general Arab wish for autonomy from the Ottomans, but there was a distinctly Palestinian branch. The British knew there were Palestinians and trained the Haganah to fight them in the 1930s.

Identity is not separate from anything. There are multiple identities that flow together, that is the nature of it.

Naziism was literally based off of the USA. ofc the Zionists are an extension of the USA and UK Empires. those Empires were what Hitler and the Nazis aspired for.

Speaking of Naziism, it is kind of wild how leftists like Victor and Trolly moralize by calling Western civilization Naziism, taking especial glee in calling Jews Nazis.

Meanwhile, in the Muslim world Naziism is actually revered and seen as something to aspire towards. And the so called leftists are completely indifferent, because it is all bad faith anyways.

Actually there is tremendous celebration in Gaza itself. And the interesting thing is you can watch video after video of thousands upon thousands of people marching/celebrating (often chanting Islamic war chants about how they are going to massacre Jews) and not a single malnourished one in the bunch. Everyone healthy and hale, if not obese.

I actually hope people watch this video bc it doesnt look anything like a Nazi salute. ofc, its the intent that matters so it really doesnt matter what it looks like, Dun will always call it Nazi and people who have actually read a book will know that it has nothing to do with Eastern European White Supremacy.

Well, I guess Google AI needs to read a book, because this is what it says:

At Hezbollah rallies and events, participants have been observed performing the Roman/fascist salute, a gesture associated with fascism and Nazism

-What is your book read opinion of the intent of Sig Heil like salutes at Hezbollah rallies? And which books informed you of this?