Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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Well the position that Gandhi was a British agent or too friendly to the British is actually echoed by quite a few Indian nationalists. The sort of people who praise the likes of Subhas Chandra Bose who although was allied to Germany in World War II was seen as a bulwork against the British “imperialism”. Interestingly enough, one of the empires that had great success in India was the Mughal empire a Muslim entity, which was said to be the richest empire of the world for a time being. Of course Indian nationalists often don’t like Muslims so it’s a pretty odd situation.
One point to take away from this that also addresses Victor and his language like “white genocide or white colonialism” is that every group of the world Indian, black, Muslim, Jewish, Christian, European etc has engaged in warfare, so-called colonialism, and for example the slave trade.
Personally I think Gandhi can be held in a positive light.
The real question is who financed the slave ships..
Let’s be honest, we know what he means.
It will probably fall on deaf ears, but Pompeus and TheKnight should know that these are the people who they are choosing to associate with and consider their peers when they cheer on Candace Owens or whichever influencer is exploiting antisemitism to gain followers.
Your peers are morons who want to told antisemitic conspiracy theories because it confirms their perverse world view. Calling them morons is not ad hominem, just an appropriate description.
Idk how to explain it to Pompeus any more simply. Grifters target idiots because they are more susceptible to buying into (literally) racist disinformation, for example antisemitic conspiracy theories.
torturing people to death and then stealing their organs. running children over with tanks for fun. what can you even say about them anymore?
I do find it funny that the Israeli accounts are cheering and gloating about this stuff while the Western accounts refuse to believe it is true. the duality of Zionism I guess.
torturing people to death and then stealing their organs. running children over with tanks for fun. what can you even say about them anymore?I do find it funny that the Israeli accounts are cheering and gloating about this stuff while the Western accounts refuse to believe it is true. the duality of Zionism I guess.
it’s so cringe that they call them “martyrs”
what the hell is a “formal accusation”? is that like when Michael Scott “declared bankruptcy” by simply saying the words?
it’s pure propaganda.
Social media accounts reporting the Sunni Gulf states will not be involved in the Gaza reconstruction project until Hamas disarms; so looks like US and Europe is going to be on the hook for all the costs for the foreseeable future.
torturing people to death and then stealing their organs. running children over with tanks for fun. what can you even say about them anymore?I do find it funny that the Israeli accounts are cheering and gloating about this stuff while the Western accounts refuse to believe it is true. the duality of Zionism I guess.
Didn't know the cornea eye trade was so hot! anyone else read that as wife age 13 and not be surprised?
Despite the ceasefire Israel is still maintaining kill zones and murdering women and children that unknowingly wander into them.
47 violations of the ceasefire, killing 38 people and wounding another 143. Business as usual for the IDF.
They need to be less trigger happy but if they said that a certain zone was off limits and that is what Hamas agreed to, how is it a violation of the ceasefire?
They need to be less trigger happy but if they said that a certain zone was off limits and that is what Hamas agreed to, how is it a violation of the ceasefire?
It's a violation of basic humanity to have an invisible line and open fire whenever someone stumbles across it.
It's a violation of basic humanity to have an invisible line and open fire whenever someone stumbles across it.
Completely agree. But a ceasefire is meant to be an agreement between two states. From the Al-Jazeera article is appears that not everyone within Gaza City has been communicated to that there is a zone that they are not supposed to go in, and I’m curious why Hamas isn’t making sure people don’t go into this zone that they in fact agreed to.
Even the article says that it’s not technically a violation of the ceasefire.
In that attack, Israeli soldiers opened fire on people who crossed the so-called “yellow line”, the demarcation to which Israel’s military was supposed to pull back under the ceasefire terms.
Al Jazeera’s Hind Khoudary, reporting from Gaza, said many Palestinians lack internet access and are unaware of where Israeli forces remain positioned along the so-called demarcation lines, putting families at risk.
Israeli Defence Minister Israel Katz has claimed that the yellow lines in Gaza will soon be marked out for clarity.
Israeli forces remain in control of approximately 53 percent of Gaza, Khoudary said.
These actions are definitely horrific if the accusation that they were killed without provocation is true, but I don’t think calling them a ceasefire violation is useful because under the terms of the ceasefire Hamas recognized a certain timeline of withdrawal that they should be ensuring is also respected on their own end.
It's a violation of basic humanity to have an invisible line and open fire whenever someone stumbles across it.
I didn't realize a ceasefire agreement intended to stop the killing and return hostages was a "violation of basic humanity".
Despite the ceasefire Israel is still maintaining kill zones and murdering women and children that unknowingly wander into them.
Interesting that this story is only being reported on by AJ and the BBC. AJ is state sponsored Qatari propaganda while BBC has shown itself to have basically as little integrity as AJ when it comes to the IP conflict.
You can’t expect to be taken seriously if you’re citing AJ at this point without acknowledging the extreme bias it holds.
Of course these same critics are undeterred by reports of Palestinians massacring each other in the streets (completely with video evidence).
Social media accounts reporting the Sunni Gulf states will not be involved in the Gaza reconstruction project until Hamas disarms; so looks like US and Europe is going to be on the hook for all the costs for the foreseeable future.
Do you see the America first crowd and the “don’t want my taxes fueling a genocide” crowd having any issue with their tax dollars being funneled to Hamas?
For some reason I don’t think they will care.
Let’s see if Bill or Trolly have any objections to what being done with their tax dollars.
Do you see the America first crowd and the “don’t want my taxes fueling a genocide” crowd having any issue with their tax dollars being funneled to Hamas?
For some reason I don’t think they will care.
Let’s see if Bill or Trolly have any objections to what being done with their tax dollars.
Ironically Israel was fine with funneling (Qatari) money to Hamas to fight the PLO.
Israel are the OGs of being fine with it.
Now to answer your question. No nobody wants money to be funneled into either side.
We literally want peace and the focus to be on our own problems. We also don’t want the us to fund it and we certainly don’t want people profiting off of it.
We don’t want to take either side in this false paradigm.
But to you that’s antisemitism.
Israel shooting people for crossing imaginary lines.
report:
Eleven members of a Palestinian family were killed by Israeli forces on Friday, described as the deadliest single violation of the fragile ceasefire since it took effect eight days ago. Gaza’s civil defence agency said the family were trying to reach their home in the Zeitoun neighbourhood of Gaza City when the bus they were in was attacked for allegedly crossing the “yellow line” that demarcates areas of Israeli army control.
“They had crossed the so-called ‘yellow line’, an imaginary boundary mentioned by the Israeli army,” said Mahmoud Basal, the spokesperson for the Gaza civil defence. “I am certain the family couldn’t distinguish between the yellow and red lines because there are no actual physical markers on the ground.”
An Israeli airstrike just hit close to displaced civilians tents along the beach west of Deir Al-Balah, central Gaza Strip, in a serious breach of the ceasefire agreement.
Ceasefire over, genocide back on.
"get them out and go back in"
I saw on twitter a release from the "Hostage" family organization, the one that was organizing marches and demonstrations ostensibly to stop the war, asking Bibi to go back and continue killing.
all of the marches and demonstrations from these people was bullshit as I stated long ago.
Ironically Israel was fine with funneling (Qatari) money to Hamas to fight the PLO.Israel are the OGs of being fine with it. Now to answer your question. No nobody wants money to be funneled into either side.We literally want peace and the focus to be on our own problems. We also don’t want the us to fund it and we certainly don’t want people profiting off of it. We don’t want
I don’t think you should speak for anyone but yourself and you shouldn’t really mention antisemitism after your previous post. I’m not sure what Israel funding Hamas at some point has to do with your complete ambivalence to your tax dollars being used by terrorists, nice whataboutism. Replying to you at all is an insult to my intelligence tbh.
