Out of the top 6 winners at GGPoker 200NL 4 are the same bot

GG is a site full of scammers.

That Russian bot-ring on ACR/True/BCP made over ten million euros. Unless sites do something, people are going to get 10 million euros for a 1200 euro investment. I know GG is going down that path. Sites like 888 and party, killed themselves by trying to stop bot-rings.

GG Poker clearly tolerates bots. I checked on BlueTableRatings and reported 6 players playing 24/7 weeks ago, they are all still playing. Before someone tells that this site might not track correctly, they do! I compared it with my own playing-time and it was spot on.

How are they tolerating bots now? They have banned over 50 accounts OP has reported

Damn, looks like they don't respect my input and playing 24/7 is completely normal 😃 Anyway, I'm done with GG. Sadly it's from the bigger sites only GG, IPoker and WPN in my country of residence. WPN is imo even worser than GG, so it's IPoker.

Bots on GG in the AOF NLHE 10–20 games play against each other all week with 100% VPIP, yet nobody ever bans them. That way they massively rig the jackpot + fortune and screw over all players, whatever their stake. Is it really possible that the biggest poker company in the world can’t even implement a 100% VPIP filter? Something much darker must be going on.
For years bots have been playing on AOF 10–20 only against one another, opening tables simultaneously. They get banned for show, and the next day they’re back with new nicknames.
Screenshots from 19/10(2) and 25/10,farming the jackpot and fortune.

After 320 hands, this “crazy” table still hasn’t attracted any real players. Only the same bot accounts sitting there with 99% VPIP non-stop. If this isn’t obvious bot farming, then what is?

Is this even profitable to do? Does BBJ come that often to overcome rake? If yes then they can do this without bots, just 4 live player sits and goes all in every single hand?

Yes,rake is prepaid every hand.You would surprised how much ev they produce.

Really guys? I would really be interested in your answers to those 3 questions.

So OP asks people to help by sending an email, right?

1) Don't you think that in order to do that, people should make sure these accounts are indeed bots? Or should they blindly do it? (Just cause some unknown guy said it).

2) Do you think OP has provided enough information in this thread to conclude that those accounts are 100% bots?

3) Can you give a reasonnable explaination why OP doesn't email his methods to detect those bots to other rooms where he knows they play?
He tried hard to defend it for 4 pages but whatever he said doesn't add up. Especially when he himself asks others to email gg.

The way OP reacts when he is being questionned is weird. Like he can't conceive why everybody doesn't blindly believe him.
I'm not trying to say that these accounts are not bots but proceding the wrong way could lead to players that are not bots being banned. Maybe you don't mind that happening, but some people do. And Slugant is not the only/first one in this thread trying to make OP understand that.

That is the problem here, the way he/she is going about needs to be altered, needs to publish his/her evidence to the other sites in order to strengthen their case with GG. How can GG refuse to look at their evidence then without embarrassing themselves if the others have confirmed them as bots and took action.

OP takes offense to questions and takes it as if he is not believed, my view would be strengthened if the other sites banned them after they reported them.

OP is well intentioned and I admire their ambition because like most I ****ing hate bots/RTA and these ****ing horse stables in poker but just go the extra little bit to get the job done is all I am saying.

I’m not emailing anybody. I don’t care, I don’t play on GG.

Is there a rule that you need 100% irrefutable proof to send emails to GG? It’s on GG and their security team to figure that out.

Certainly is profitable if the company collecting the rake is the same people that control the bots and the same people that decide if they get removed. Allows the BBJ to be offered at significantly less than the cost if they do not do this. The problem with people doing it is that bots are much cheaper per hour than people and since it takes only a few people to create and run 100s of bots much easier to maintain secrecy.

No thats why OP is urged to email the other 3 sites as well... And apparently I am not the only one who thinks that

He seems to have a "technique" that catches bots really well. So the fact that that technique stays secret is crazy. Of course you dont want to make the botfarmers wiser but they will anyway. If he didnt keep his method a secret to everyone others could use it in their own games/sites and bots would be tackled much harder than they are now.

Looks like we are not going to get them though. Its almost funny when critical questions are asked and instead of an answer you get "stop shitting on / take the l blabla"

But to get back on the main issue of due process.
Its good to follow up on suspicions, do research and email the site (all of them). Of course, nobody is debating this.
But out of the names mentioned as 100% bots in the first post some have disappeared (good catch likely) but others according to BluePTR are still playing and were active yesterday. This would be extremely odd since others belonging to the same botfarm were banned weeks ago.

The thing is when you call players 100% bots and they turn out not to be, it doesnt just harm them is also harms the research, in quality and reliability

new weekly leaderboard has to be the dream for the bots
and on the other side the new payout for the daily has to be the nightmare for the bots

https://www.reddit.com/r/GGPoker/comment...

Every week new bots get reported — and maybe banned —
but what changes if the bot operator can just make new bots with fresh PVIs every week?

This topic has been coming up every week for the past 9 months.

GGPoker, please do something!

And how do you know that? This news doesn’t appear anywhere.

And honest question. If they let you know that ALL the money in their accounts was confiscated...
What is done with that money? Did affected get reimbursed?
Because its been often said here that GG doesnt do that but I dont think they can confiscate money from bots without reimbursing duped players

The 3 questions were pretty dumb which is why I didn’t answer them but here:

1) it’s on the individual to choose if they want to email gg and on ggs security team to determine if there’s any validity to the claims. Sitting in here shitting on op is weird.

2) I don’t know and I don’t care. that’s a question for GGs security team. Is the threshold for taking action against a player 100% proof? Maybe we need to check the TOS.

3) Not disseminating your methods of detection seems reasonable and I didn’t even realize that’s a big point of contention. Soending multiple pages to **** on a guy trying to expose bots is weird.

whats new about it?

It is exactly the same botring that played on WPN. Now they play mostly Ignition and GGpoker

3 "I"s in a short answer when nobody asked if, you, personally, should (or would) do it. I used the term people and asked if they should blindly accept whatever OP said. Can you put yourself in their shoes and understand why they may have questions or remarks?

Rule or not is irrelevant. People don't just do things because there is no rule against it. Sometimes they have to be morally ok and it has to make sense for them. But nice rethoric anyway.
100% is impossible so yeah I express myself wrong there, my bad.
What is your threshold for posting screennames and say those accounts are 100% bots like OP did?

So if I understand you well, once somebody come here and post screennames saying they are bots (without giving any elements that could indicate so), people should not come here to ask questions or make critical remarks. Otherwise, they are "shitting on OP". Wright?
I disagree. But who knows? I could be wrong.

Obviously

It's not even the reason OP gave 😀.
Anyway, so if I understand you well, according to you, sending his methods to 3 or 4 sites security teams (not posting them for everybody) would be disseminating your methods. Therefore, not doing it makes perfect sense. Wright?

So many bots on GG now...