Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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She lost her job at daily wire or whatever that’s called w Ben Shapiro=canceled
She’s no longer on mainstream.
It supports my point bc canceled people actually tend to get more views.
What were they supposed to do, keep her on?
She literally is going through the antisemeric playbook, playing all the hits, and then adding her own original material.
Is your argument “mainstream” platforms should have her on doing this?
Why?
When the closest thing to Mandela your side can get to is a dude who murdered a bunch of civilians, I can begin to understand why the world mostly overlooks the terrible things Israelis do.
[B]Former Top Lawyer for Israeli Militar...
In Israel, exposing the crime is worse than the rape itself.
What were they supposed to do, keep her on?
She literally is going through the antisemeric playbook, playing all the hits, and then adding her own original material.
Is your argument “mainstream” platforms should have her on doing this?
Why?
When you cancel someone instead of debating them it makes your position look super weak.
Your logic of canceling someone bc you fear what they believe in or say is the opposite of what we do in the United States.
We protect free speech as unpopular as it may be and as much as we may disagree with it.
I’ve noticed Israel wants to buy the internet so instead of protecting free speech they want to squash any opposition.
[B]Former Top Lawyer for Israeli Militar...
In Israel, exposing the crime is worse than the rape itself.
They need to suppress the truth… they can’t have free press exposing them
When you cancel someone instead of debating them it makes your position look super weak. Your logic of canceling someone bc you fear what they believe in or say is the opposite of what we do in the United States.We protect free speech as unpopular as it may be and as much as we may disagree with it. I’ve noticed Israel wants to buy the internet so instead of protecting free spe
So you think Israel should be silenced and all Israeli efforts to buy the internet should be opposed?
Look at this mess that attempts to call himself a man in Randy Fine. A horrible example of an American a man who is sick in the head. And that is precisely because of his hypocrisy he will whine and bitch about “antisemitism” well of course he lies about it, of course it doesn’t exist with regards to the people he accuses of it. And then at the same time he recently said on a Piers Morgan interview He would understand if Americans are afraid of Islam. Fine also said in July that he doesn’t give a **** about Gazans.
Boy ain’t that something these pathetic annoying MIGAS constantly complaining about bigotry while engaging in it themselves wide open. I mean you can’t make this stuff up.
We see this incredible movement by young conservatives and young liberals in America, challenging the status quo of the older Republicans and older Democrats… not all of them but a good chunk of older Americans even lefties who are simply incapable of calling out the genocide in Gaza.
And all the pro war in Gaza people can do is whine and pout, scream into the air, lie nonstop about “antisemitism” because they see that the attempt to cancel people like Candace Owens or Tucker Carlson has not only failed, but it has backfired to the point that these people are even more popular than they were when they were on their mainstream platforms…whether it was Candace on the daily wire or Tucker on Fox News
And really important you can also notice that the pro war in Gaza people many of them will never even acknowledge someone like Randy fine. They just go on a rant about Candace Owens or Tucker whining nonstop about what they claim is bigotry from these people. And you know you’re dealing with propaganda here because they wont talk about people who wide openly denigrate Muslims. With someone like Owens or Carlson they have to play word games they have to say “they’re using coded language” or something similar to that. These are some of the worst people around, never interested in a conversation only in spewing propaganda. It’s as annoying as it gets and this type of rhetoric from too many pro-war in Gaza people is exactly why a majority of Americans now oppose the Israeli government.
Also worth noting incredibly important point that Owens and Carlson have said positive things about Jews and Judaism. That’s silences the annoying people who accuse them of bigotry. And again the same people who accuse Owens or Carlson of bigotry will not acknowledge the wide open anti-Muslim views From influencers and from politicians like Randy Fine.. the American people understand this which is why there is an explosive popularity of Owens and Carlson. So in response to that the MIGAS constantly lie, they do it all the time. One of their lies is Oh, it’s all bots. All the people who watch these videos are bots.
“Bots!”
Oh yeah riiight …. That’s why Tucker Carlson gets thunderous rounds of applause when he goes on live speaking tours. Bots though …..
Over the top cruelty, reported by Haaretz.
The videos from the southern West Bank show masked Israeli settlers entering the sheep pen, abusing and injuring lambs on the ground. Human rights activists say that settler violence against Palestinian flocks in the West Bank has worsened recently
Ben Shapiro & the Pro-Israel Right Wage WAR on Tucker
Over the top cruelty, reported by Haaretz.
Some people are just not good people, and West Bank settlers, who've gone there, mainly from the US, simply to oppress others and make trouble, in what is effectively an environment beyond the law, are never good people.
When you cancel someone instead of debating them it makes your position look super weak. Your logic of canceling someone bc you fear what they believe in or say is the opposite of what we do in the United States.We protect free speech as unpopular as it may be and as much as we may disagree with it. I’ve noticed Israel wants to buy the internet so instead of protecting free spe
Israel using its free speech to buy the internet is something your opposed to?
You previously said you support all free speech, but now you’re saying you don’t support Israel’s use of free speech because it’s being used to silence someone else.
When you cancel someone instead of debating them it makes your position look super weak. Your logic of canceling someone bc you fear what they believe in or say is the opposite of what we do in the United States.We protect free speech as unpopular as it may be and as much as we may disagree with it. I’ve noticed Israel wants to buy the internet so instead of protecting free spe
Much as I loathe Ben Shapiro, did he ever hold anyone accountable for hanging out with Candace? Or tried to get her taken off youtube or whatever? I don’t see how not renewing someone’s contract because they are off brand is a cancellation.
And I will say I’m also concerned with extreme cancellations. I don’t think Nick Fuentes should be prevented from having a paypal and a bank account (or Candace Owens for that matter). But like if what Shapiro did was a cancellation it was the most minor type imaginable.
Here is what I hear every Saturday at Synagogue:
[emoji1134] G-d gave us Israel to save the world and that is why Jews are the choosen people.
[emoji1134] Judiasm and Zionism are synonymous.
[emoji1134] anti Zionism is anti Jewish.
I agree [emoji115](except the choosen ppl part) but here is my pro Jewish pro Zion perspective:
[emoji1134]BB and the murderous Israeli government is anti Zionism and are not Jews even if they don't have the foreskin to prove it.
[emoji1134]BB and said Israeli Govt is using the atrocities of Oct 7th to justify their Gaza genocide.
[emoji1134]BB existence is 100% reliant on Hamas.
[emoji1134]BB is the reincarnation of Hitler (ok ok maybe the last one is an assumption).
I apologize if this is construed as a troll... hopefully it will provide some [emoji3584][emoji170]perspective.
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Here is what I hear every Saturday at Synagogue:[emoji1134] G-d gave us Israel to save the world and that is why Jews are the choosen people. [emoji1134] Judiasm and Zionism are synonymous. [emoji1134] anti Zionism is anti Jewish. I agree [emoji115](except the choosen ppl part) but here is my pro Jewish pro Zion perspective:[emoji1134]BB and the murderous Israeli government is
Many folks on both the left and right would be sympathetic to much of what you’re saying.
