Ukraine-Russia War Take 2
Here is what the preliminary take on the Ukraine thread disappearing is:
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To clarify, this looks like celebrating a soccer match to you?Or this?https://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/12/us/da...
you know who else celebrated 9/11?
and no, I dont think "the Jews did it" but the Israelis knew damn well that a bunch of Western racists like yourself would take it out on Palestinians just like you are doing in your post and that made them happy.
no ones racists to Palestinians outside of like maybe hardcore Zionists. Like who the **** cant feel bad about the poor guys. Palestinians are probably the most loved ethnic group in the world and its not even close. Even the most pro isreal posters feel a general sorrow for them. Alot of the plz give up and push out hamas sentiment is from people who don't want to see them destroyed by a much stronger force and want to see them give up for their own well being because they are realists and know they can't ever win.
****ing hell in Ternopil. Russia struck two residential buildings simultaneously with Kh-101 missiles.
In the first building, the upper floors were completely destroyed (1-3). In the second location, a missile struck directly in front of a building, burning down an entire entrance (4-5).
The fact that this was a direct hit by Russian Kh-101 missiles is clearly visible in the video (6-7).
In (6), four Russian missiles fly one after another and hit several points within a single sector, with smoke already visible by the time the first hit occurs—meaning there were at least five missiles.
In (7), we see up to six explosions within a single sector—all near residential buildings.
At this point, 21 people are known to have died (updated), including two children. Another 66 people are injured. The death toll will increase as the rubble is cleared.
The Kh-101 missile, with a stated circular error probable of 10-20 meters, has repeatedly hit Ukrainian residential buildings and other civilian targets.
Among the Kh-101's most notable targets are:
▪️A residential building in Kyiv on July 17, 2025 (28 people were killed);
▪️The Okhmatdet Children's Hospital on July 8, 2024 (2 people were killed);
▪️A residential building in Uman on April 28, 2023 (23 people were killed).
This is just a quick rundown. In reality, there have been many more strikes with these missiles, beginning in the early days of the war and continuing to this day, although the use of Kh-101s has become significantly less common since Operation Spider Web. Kh-101s are launched from Tu-95 strategic bombers.
These ****ing monsters continue to fight against residential buildings, grandparents and children.
but but but according to one of Putin's closest friends (Victor), these buildings, grandparents and children are hardcore Nazis and deserve all of this!
US and Russian officials have quietly drafted a new plan to end the war in Ukraine that would require Kyiv to surrender territory and severely limit the size of its military, it was reported on Wednesday as Russian drone and missile strikes killed at least 25 people in the city of Ternopil.
The draft plan, which was reportedly developed by Donald Trump’s envoy, Steve Witkoff, and the Kremlin adviser Kirill Dmitriev, would force draconian measures on Ukraine that would give Russia unprecedented control over the country’s military and political sovereignty. The plan is likely to be viewed as surrender in Kyiv.
Ukraine's allies will seek to "strengthen" a US plan to end the war with Russia when they meet at the G20 summit in South Africa, UK PM Sir Keir Starmer has said.
The summit begins a day after President Volodymyr Zelensky warned Ukraine faced "one of the most difficult moments in our history" over pressure to accept the plan - leaked details of which have been seen as favourable to Moscow.
Zelensky held phone talks with Sir Keir and the leaders of France and Germany on Friday. Afterwards, the PM said Ukraine's "friends and partners" remained committed to securing a "lasting peace once and for all".
Neither US President Donald Trump nor Russian President Vladimir Putin are attending the G20.
The widely leaked US peace plan includes proposals that Kyiv had previously ruled out, including ceding eastern areas it currently controls.
Washington has been pressing Kyiv to accept and sent senior Pentagon officials to Ukraine earlier this week to discuss the proposals.
But there is nervousness in Europe over what has been perceived as a set of terms heavily slanted in Moscow's favour. EU foreign policy chief Kaja Kallas called the prospect of it being adopted a "very dangerous moment".
According to news agency Reuters, she told reporters: "We all want this war to end, but how it ends matters. Russia has no legal right whatsoever to any concessions from the country it invaded, ultimately the terms of any agreement are for Ukraine to decide."
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As part of the White House's plan, Ukraine would be obliged to cut the size of its army and pledge not to join the Nato military alliance, a long-held Kremlin demand.
Trump warned on Friday that Ukraine would lose more territory to Russia "in a short amount of time" and that Zelensky "is going to have to approve" the plan.
The US president said he had given Ukraine until Thursday to agree to the plan - Thanksgiving in the US - which he described as an "appropriate" deadline.
After 3 days Witkoff has walked back the 28 point plan, saying it was just a Russian wish list, and not a final ultimatum.
It clearly was a Russian wish (demand) list, but it seems the Trump admin floated it out as a demand hoping Ukraine and Europe would just take it. And when they didn't, the admin appears to be backing down.
Did anyone keep track of the number of times where Drumpf tried to reach "peace" in the cheapest and most pathetic way possible?
"Hey, why won't you give very very very large chunks of your territory to my best friends in Russia, so I can claim to have ended this war"
Good to see Europe standing together against US/Rus scumminess.
Also looks like the government here has got annoyed with Russia constantly pissing about in our waters/airspace.
Recently watched a bunch of Russian anti nazi ww2 movies
Come and see
Ivan’s childhood
The ascent
I didn’t realize how many people died as a result of German nazification of Belarus.
After 3 days Witkoff has walked back the 28 point plan, saying it was just a Russian wish list, and not a final ultimatum.
It clearly was a Russian wish (demand) list, but it seems the Trump admin floated it out as a demand hoping Ukraine and Europe would just take it. And when they didn't, the admin appears to be backing down.
The BBC ran this through AI and the interpretation was that it was originally written in Russian and translated to English, which was obviously to anyone who read it.
Recently watched a bunch of Russian anti nazi ww2 movies
Come and see
Ivan’s childhood
The ascent
I didn’t realize how many people died as a result of German nazification of Belarus.
A good friend of mine at uni was Ukrainian. One weekend his mum was coming to stay, he invited me over saying they were going to chill and watch a movie that evening.
I went over with some beers, thinking we'd just hang out and watch some crappy rom-com she'd found. It was Come and See. Definitely on the list of great movies I never want to watch again!
Some people on Twitter (so take it FWIW) are hypothesizing that Trump and Putin have some sort of arrangement where Trump is attempting to hand over Eastern Ukraine to Russia and in exchange Russia will abandon allies antagonistic toward Trump. This includes Syria (which Russia has mostly abandoned out of necessity when the regime collapsed), Iran and Venezuela. And I am sure Putin has also promised some business deals with the US that would benefit Trump and his inner circle financially.
Interestingly, Trump was unable to get Ukraine/Europe to go along with the Russian "wish list" and right after Russia sent "military advisors" to Venezuela. So this can be seen as Putin punishing Trump for not being able to fulfill his part of the agreement.
on what planet is Syria antagonistic towards Trump? he loves the head chopper.
also, Russia hasnt abandoned Syria in any way. they still maintain the large military base and are working with the current regime.
but yes it does make sense that Russia would drop support for Iran, Venezuela, etc to close out this Ukraine this nastiness.
I was referring to the Assad regime. And between their own population collapse and losses in Ukraine, it isn't obvious how much longer Russia will be able to exert any power outside Russia in a few years. They are already starting to sell off parts of Eastern Russia to China, and bringing in Chinese engineers to handle infrastructure for the simple reason they dont have a population base to keep Eastern Russia running any longer.
That Putin crony who threatened to nuke the United States a while back, has now commented that Russia might need to "liberate" Berlin and Paris ... you know, while they are liberating Ukraine from fascists.
--This barely made the news, but France coordinating with the UK and seizing a shadow fleet tanker in the Mediterranean could actually be a pretty big deal. On any given day, there are around 1000 shadow fleet tankers transporting up to 5 billion barrels of oil, mostly from Russia and Iran (and previously Venezuela). And everyone knows they are there, and for geopolitical reasons just lets them do their thing.
But obviously we heard the Trump administration has started seizing ships linked to Venezuela. And now apparently France and Britain are starting to seize ships too. This could actually be a big deal as far as finally putting real leverage on Putin and the IRGC to stop behaving so poorly, and in the latter case putting pressure on them to abdicate power.
I'm guessing it also an indicator that intelligence, surveillance and maritime readiness has been stepped up. These are things that have been left to rot for a long time, as most of European governments assumed the blue water cold war was over in the Atlantic and thus their fleets were ignored, and the US turned its eyes mainly to the pacific. France has historically had few qualms about aggressive action in such matters, so I suspect it has been a question of capacity rather than will.
Russian hybrid attacks on maritime infrastructure probably did them no favors in this regard, and I'd say whatever intelligence for war games they get from carrying them out has to be rather negligible. So a bit of an own goal there, if they had held back I suspect European governments would have continued their rather apathetic approach. Russian access to the Atlantic for military assets is still hampered by predictable geography, which makes it easy to track, submarines included. And that is regardless of melting ice for a good while yet - and their own refitting of their North Atlantic fleet is mostly a paper exercise where most money disappears into the vastness of Russian corruption.
946 drones. 34 missiles.
Ukraine suffered the largest Russian attack since the full-scale invasion. The strike lasted 20 hours and affected over a dozen cities.
1 - Zaporizhzhia was the first to be hit today, around 2:00 AM. A Shahed missile hit a residential building. One person was killed and 12 were wounded.
2 - Around 3:00 AM, Poltava was hit. Residential buildings, a hotel. Two people were killed and 12 were wounded.
3 - Before dawn, the Slatino-Kharkiv commuter train was hit. A drone hit a train car. A 61-year-old passenger was killed.
4 - This morning, Russia pummeled the Dnieper River with a Shahed missile. A residential building, of course. No fatalities, 12 people were wounded.
5 - A Tornado-S missile was launched at Kherson. Private sector. Why? I don't know, just because they're annoying. A man died. Two more were wounded.
6-7 - Late evening, Lviv, center, "Shahed." St. Andrew's Church, part of the Bernardine Monastery complex, which is under UNESCO protection. 19 wounded. No fatalities.
8 - Ivano-Frankivsk, maternity hospital, "Shahed." A National Guard soldier and his daughter were killed. They had come to visit his wife, who had recently given birth to their second child.
9 - Vinnytsia, "Shahed" in the city center. Residential buildings and high-rise buildings. One dead, 13 wounded.
10 - Back to Lviv. A man hangs a Ukrainian flag on the balcony of his house, where a "Shahed" rocket had crashed.
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A stupid, defective, Iranian-like terrorist state without purpose or meaning, which hasn't been able to do anything on earth for four years now, but feels greatness from yet another murdered grandmother in her apartment building or a baby in the maternity hospital.
The "Cargo 200" state.
****ing hell.
The Russian *******s decided not to wait to see if Ukraine would comply with their unilateral ceasefire and preemptively bombed cities, causing massive civilian casualties. It's as if they've decided to fulfill their murder quota for several days in advance.
1-4 - Zaporizhzhia, KABs. Service station, shopping pavilion. At this point, 12 dead, 16 wounded.
5-7 - Kramatorsk, KABs. Somewhere downtown, cars, passersby. 5 dead, 5 wounded.
8 - Dnipro, ballistics. 4 dead, 16 wounded.
+ Poltava Oblast, ballistics + UAVs, Naftogaz Group facilities. 5 dead, including three State Emergency Service rescuers who were hit again after arriving at the scene. 37 wounded.
By now, there are 26 dead and 74 wounded.
This isn't even a terrorist state anymore, damn it. It's a corpse state. A rotting corpse trying to kill as many as possible before it dies itself.
