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see I read a few articles with headlines like "last words were its okay im not mad at you"But I had seen the newest video a couple minutes before I saw those articles and thats not how I read the situation. Have you ever been in a fight with someone who keeps going. "you mad bro?" When your arguing with someone people feel like its important to express they are not mad about th
Yeah bro, so kill her, right? You are absolutely making the case that this ICE officer got mad and shot this woman to "win a fight"
I'm glad you can admit it so freely but you are arguing that he murdered her in a moment of passion so at least act like that is your position
Hilarious stuff today. Keep it up guys
Maybe I should just delete your accounts because I'm getting heated arguing with you about murder, amirite?
Just so dumb
I'm the authority right, **** around and find out, right?
Jesus christ
EDIT/SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: IF ITS NOT OBVIOUS I WOULD NEVER DELETE SOMEONES ACCOUNT I AM USING THIS TO FRAME HOW ******ED THESE TAKES ARE
No, the menial point is that you are stuck on some mental island insisting the Good's were just driving to get groceries and were stopped and murdered by ICE officers for no reason. Whereas the rest of the world, including people who believe it was clearly murder, have acknowledged they were literally there to harass ICE officers. Good's wife, who got out of the car to film t
There's a lot to be said for making a special effort to behave yourself when engaging folks who have guns and are more than happy to use them.
On the other hand, there is also much to be said for standing up to tyranny. It's a tough balancing act that can, unfortunately, have fatal consequences.
Nothing, and I mean nothing justifies what he did. Only one shot went through the windshield, which means he fired TWO through an open window into her face. That is impossible to do from any position where you are in danger of being run over by the vehicle.
That's not self-defense under any possible interpretation.
All I see in the discussion above is that she was annoying him. That's the only justification I see being attempted.
It doesn't matter if she was annoying him. IT DOESN'T MATTER.
It doesn't matter if she was a good person, bad person, brat, stay at home mom, lesbian, illegal alien, christian, maga, liberal, or furry.
IT DOESN'T MATTER.
What matters is this pyschopath fired AT LEAST two shots from the side of the vehicle where he was in no danger, two of which were through an open window and now she's dead.
Nothing justifies that. No other discussion is necessary.
"She should've stayed home."
"Well what was she wearing."
"She should've complied."
"She should've just gotten in the gas chamber when they told her to."
This is stupid.
im like 60/40 I think shot one was kind of justifiable without researching proper police protocols. There's video angles that show the driver in a small amount of danger if he had slow reaction time but they are more trained on intent and if he didn't see the direction of the wheels I could see him panicking
shots 2 and 3 certainly not. People saying their100% sure either way without like hours of research are just ideologically lost to one side
Plz delete a 7k poster from 2011 because your "not mad" and don't agree . Threatening me with a ban is hilarious and kind of reminds me of the conflict were talking about.
I totally do think the two people fighting increased the chances of said event happening im not trying to win a left vs right fight im looking at the evidence .
I mean Good should obviously still be alive right now. And if there was a trial and it was determined by an impartial jury in a court of law the officer was guilty of manslaughter (or something along these lines) I wouldn't say it was a miscarriage of justice.
That being said, the crux of the problem is that we are a nation that has very clearly laid out laws on immigration. And the Democrat Party has decided that they aren' going to uphold those laws, and they are going to actively fight anyone who does. They basically have decided they are above the law.
And Trump was democratically elected by the American people on a platform to enforce the laws Democrats are refusing to.
Now you can completely disagree with how Trump is going about this, and how he has politicized things. And if that is the case, feel free to express this with your next vote.
But the bottom line is Trump is the elected President of the US, who was elected on a platform to uphold and enforce immigration law. And the Democrat Party is currently attacking our democracy and facilitating an anti-democratic insurrection.
Take out any moral components, and they are the Confederates right now. They are the ones that insist their local desires supersede federal laws, and refuse to follow or uphold federal law.
Also, he was wildly unprofessional right from the get-go. This woman was dropping her kids off at daycare, he took every opportunity to escalate the situation like a complete asshole.
Nothing, and I mean nothing justifies what he did. Only one shot went through the windshield, which means he fired TWO through and open window into her face.That's not self-defense under any possible interpretation.All I see in the discussion above is that she was annoying him. That's the only justification I see.It doesn't matter if she was annoying him. IT DOESN'T MATTER.It d
THIS!!!
The harassing seemed fairly mutual but yeah the wife was incredibly cringeGoods last words appear to have been "Its okay, I'm not mad at you" and you are basically saying "she was so out of line I don't really care that shes dead"You are welcome to your opinion but I think you are being more flippant, controversial, inciteful, and out of line with your forum comments than she w
yes, it is completely crazy to expect that at this point. these are IDF trained fascists who are often already mass murderers like this guy certainly was.
Ok. But if the Democrat Party and their civilian militias decide to take to the streets to fight with federal law enforcement officers trying to enforce federal law, most of the time everyone is going to work out ok, and everyone is going to go home at night. But if there is enough encounters over enough time, occasionally some people aren't.
Statistically, this type of thing is going to happen again if Trump continues tying to uphold federal law as he is, and the Democrats and their vigilante mobs continue their insurrection. Something has to give. If you think the Confederates should win this round, and the Union needs to back off, then fair enough.
I'm extremely skeptical that anyone here can clearly articulate what the laws currently are and what ICE's powers are or aren't
I have doubts that many of the things they are doing are actually legal. But who is going to challenge that?
Citizens are allowed to protest, that is a fact. Being cringe is, in fact, protected under free speech.
Do you know, for a fact, that the ICE agents were acting legally? I have doubts that they were by swarming a citizen like that
I mean Good should obviously still be alive right now. And if there was a trial and it was determined by an impartial jury in a court of law the officer was guilty of manslaughter (or something along these lines) I wouldn't say it was a miscarriage of justice. That being said, the crux of the problem is that we are a nation that has very clearly laid out laws on immigration.
Murdering ladies in their car is evil and has nothing to do with 'enforcing immigration law. '
This has nothing to do with Republicans, Democrats or the Confederacy. It's about not murdering fellow citizens who don't pose a threat to anyone.
That being said, the crux of the problem is that we are a nation that has very clearly laid out laws on immigration. And the Democrat Party has decided that they aren' going to uphold those laws, and they are going to actively fight anyone who does. They basically have decided they are above the law.And Trump was democratically elected by the American people on a platform to
No, df, that is not the problem. That has nothing to do with the shooting.
But it's HILARIOUS that you are arguing that anyone should care so much about the law when the president is A CONVICTED FELON.
You look stupid pretending to be up on a high horse, jack.
wdym I think hes playing the role of the victim well. I am curious what police officers say about this esp shot 2 and 3. obv its easy to say thats dumb as a civilian.because to us it is. if anyones got any good sources of a high volume of police officers dm me
im like 60/40 I think shot one was kind of justifiable without researching proper police protocols. There's video angles that show the driver in a small amount of danger if he had slow reaction time but they are more trained on intent and if he didn't see the direction of the wheels I could see him panicking shots 2 and 3 certainly not. People saying their100% sure either way w
Weird coming from a Canadian. An American defending it I get, they're so ****ed up with their gun laws and their misunderstanding of self-defense it's just noise at this point.
I mean Good should obviously still be alive right now. And if there was a trial and it was determined by an impartial jury in a court of law the officer was guilty of manslaughter (or something along these lines) I wouldn't say it was a miscarriage of justice. That being said, the crux of the problem is that we are a nation that has very clearly laid out laws on immigration.
Nothing you said here is relevant to ICE agents abducting people and shooting US citizens but if it helps you sleep at night, good for you little man.
It's of-course hilarious to say the democrat party is attacking your current democracy when you have Trump acting as a dictator, breaking both national and international laws on a daily basis but I'm sure that's just a nuance lost on you.
Ok. But if the Democrat Party and their civilian militias decide to take to the streets to fight with federal law enforcement officers trying to enforce federal law, most of the time everyone is going to work out ok, and everyone is going to go home at night. But if there is enough encounters over enough time, occasionally some people aren't. Statistically, this type of thing
What are these Democrat Party Civilian Militias? I'm not familiar with them.
Did the Proud Boys go woke or something?
This is what all this is for btw.
Before anyone argues its worth it to get all those "murderers and rapists"
Where did I defend it pablo I'm actually still looking into it and I lean in the favor of the democrats. What you mean to say is im unapologetic for the victim. that's different then defending it. Honestly her girlfriend should probably be charged. This was not even a top 5 news event for me this week. its been a very interesting one im way more interest in iran right now
is that not the whole point of expanding ice? They are a small organization that can only target violent illegal immigrants. Your election mandate was to expand deportations to non violent illegal immigrants. I assumed trump had failed at this like he fails at everything else but after you showed me that graph im getting second thoughts.
But yes as ice expands it will detain more non violent illegal immigrants because it has run out of violent ones. altho i doubt thats this graph. But its the completely expected and logical outcome
What are these Democrat Party Civilian Militias? I'm not familiar with them.
Did the Proud Boys go woke or something?
Good was part of an informal civilian group that tracks and "observes" ICE agents. Do you think she was just driving home from daycare and happened to stop by some ICE agents?
It is fairly organized. They are in constant contact with eachother and coordinate. This is even acknowledged in the MSM. No one is even denying this.
is that not the whole point of expanding ice? They are a small organization that can only target violent illegal immigrants. Your election mandate was to expand deportations to non violent illegal immigrants. I assumed trump had failed at this like he fails at everything else but after you showed me that graph im getting second thoughts.But yes as ice expands it will detain mor
These are detentions, not deportations. The deportation numbers are pretty pathetic
