"The Pen:" Live NLHE Chat Thread
It's been about 9.5 years and 350K posts of epicness, but "It Lives, It Lives" can live no more. The OG LLSNL Chat Thre
6betme incited a lot of poker- and life-related criticism based on his absolutely nonsensical poker journey but people were crossing the line, especially by saying mean things about his wife and their relationship. Dude seemed like a nice guy with personality issues, based on the thread responses you'd think he was some sort of horribly abusive goblin.
I had a beer with him in Melbourne. Was a nice kid, just very naive
RTP is a guy that I like and who will be good at just about anything he puts his mind to asked a question. I am giving my experiences at dealing with this type of character you will meet and that they should be kept at arms length for a host of reasons.
I am simply trying to save RTP and others who may be fooled some heartache
thanks a lot, this means a lot to me. I really appreciate it!
pman seems like a good guy, but as mentioned he has zero work ethic. he's been getting great advice from very knowledgable people here for years and ignores it all. just keep that in mind if you're thinking of mentoring him RtP.
For some people who colour outside the lines (lol, attempting to find a phrase here and that's what I came up with, lol @ me?) this route may be an option (you, RR and Dumbo come to mind), but Pman ain't that guy, imo.
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The process matters too much to ignore. BRM, gradually moving up etc. are crucial beyond his feasibility.
Curious question for you four but any of the older guys here:
Before social media—and before kids—what did life actually look like day to day?
If you had a small blog and small online presence like pman back then, what do you think you would’ve posted about?
What filled your weeks? What mattered more than you realized at the time?
* Also curious about the logistics of the time: what kind of phones were around then, and how connected (or disconnected) did you actually feel day to day?
Cliffs: I was a mess in my 20s. And I'm not that old, Facebook came out while I was still in high school!
Nokia made the trendiest cell phones before the iphone came out.
RTP- holy crap, your questions make me feel old.
I felt way more connected to people before social media, but that’s likely just a stage of life thing. There was nothing to do but school / hang out with friends / play sports / etc.
I’m sure I could have some of the interactions still but I’ll tell you that the couch is appealing 11 times out of 10 after parenting and working.
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Yeah Jesus…’what filled your weeks’.
Honestly, that’s a bleak question and makes me concerned for you.
RtP, it was TV that filled most American's "wasted" time before the internet.
Interested in thoughts from anyone who's played the big games in the south Philly/Chester area on this post:
Just in an abundance of caution, does anyone here play med-high stakes in the Philly area and have questions about a certain tight-knit crew of players who've been running their own lists at high stakes games for almost as long as Philly's had poker?
All very friendly with each other and play together constantly, all have terrible poker fundamentals, all supposedly play poker for a living.
There's been rumblings about them for close to 10 years, but same thing with no one catching hand signals or sketchy backraises or anything, so it's been nothing but circumstantial evidence.
I'd also say their standards for who is and isn't on their list are a little incoherent. Some quiet backpack nits have an open invite but they're grouchy about some gregarious whales.
Not trying to name and shame based on scuttlebutt and bruised egos, but think it's pretty clear from the description iykyk...
I also want to put on the record that I think they're all perfectly friendly gents that I have onthing but positive personal interactions with, so I will go on having love in my heart for them unless and until I find out they've been cheating me the last 10+ years at which point I hope they die and I hope they burn in hell 😄
I check in on it occasionally to get cliff's notes because I don't really want to watch the vlogs that much. But it is pretty repulsive. Even if some struggling 1/2 vlogger is not someone I'd want to be friends with, I can't imagine spending hours and hours of my life hate watching, wishing for him to suffer. It's a bit surprising to me it hasn't been shut down as it has sp
+1
And the doxxing / etc. does seem way out of-of-line.
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I check in on it occasionally to get cliff's notes because I don't really want to watch the vlogs that much. But it is pretty repulsive. Even if some struggling 1/2 vlogger is not someone I'd want to be friends with, I can't imagine spending hours and hours of my life hate watching, wishing for him to suffer. It's a bit surprising to me it hasn't been shut down as it has sp
+1
And the doxxing / etc. does seem way out of-of-line.
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Pretty sure I haven't seen any post reports from either of you guys in there. No way in Hell I'm reading that thread on the daily, so if you want something done you're going to have to report the posts. While I agree the world would be a better place without that thread, it kinda serves a purpose of keeping all that horrible posting in one easily avoided place and not contaminating the rest of the forum.
I posted in there a couple of times when I first discovered poker vlogs (extremely late to the party), before I quickly realized what the forum was actually about. It's a fenced in burning mountain of tires so prolly fine just letting it burn.
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Exactly
It’s no surprise that our boy Dream Crusher loved that thread. Is he still posting under a different name?
Curious question for you four but any of the older guys here:Before social media—and before kids—what did life actually look like day to day?If you had a small blog and small online presence like pman back then, what do you think you would’ve posted about?What filled your weeks? What mattered more than you realized at the time?* Also curious about the logistic
people watched a lot more of "let's see what is on" - it was super common to just choose a channel and stick with it - you started watching nbc for seinfeld, so now you'd give the next show up a chance and it'd have to be particularly bad for you to bother changing the channel and seeing what one of the 2-3 other viable options were
some people would try to organize things around the shows they loved - i was always going to try to avoid any gatherings on sunday night because that meant i'd miss the simpsons and would probably never get another chance to see it - it wasn't uncommon to see adults say "can we do it wednesday instead so i don't miss seinfeld"
a whole lot more time just being alone with your thoughts - right now whenever someone has 5-10 minutes of waiting for a bus/flight/etc they'd alway pul out a phone - we wouldn't carry around books or magazines for small daily waits and would just learn to be alone with our thoughts
cell phones changed the game far more than internet imo - it used to be that you'd arrange times and locations to meet, "ok we'll all meet you at the front of the mall at 3:15" and then inevitably everyone has to make a judgement call over whether to wait a little longer for joe to show up or just let joe try to find you guys himself
once cell phones became mainstream, people stopped planning and things went from "let's meet at this exact spot at this exact time" to "i'll see you tomorrow" - this is why i ultimately caved and got a cell phone of my own in 2005 because it became very difficult to meet up with people because plans started centering around assuming any details could be hashed out in real time over the phone
i read 1% as many print media in books and magazines as i did back then - i used to read a lot of books and magazines cover to cover
but i now read far more overall, just mostly little snippets here or there from the great anthology of the internet - whenever i am able to set aside some time to read a proper book it's a real treat for me
but mostly, before social media, pman wouldn't have had access to strangers, his blog would only be known to people he knew directly in real life - and it would have much likelier been in the format of an email that would be sent out to a large group
it really wasn't until social media that people gained access to people outside their immediate social circles - yes i could have found someone's "blog" on a listserv but that would be a painstaking process where i really, really wanted it - wouldn't just come across it by accident - so you wouldn't have "lifestyle blogs" but rather very esoteric stuff like a blog dedicated to tying salmon flies
it's funny because one summer i had to clean out this storage room in our house, it'd been filled with nothing but boxes my entire life so it wasn't part of the house at all, in fact, the passageway leading to the living section of the house (very big family in a very big house) was itself blocked with boxes and this room had its own doorway leading outside - so when it was time to move and pack things up, i was assigned that room and i spent a lot of time in there - going through the contents, sorting it out and moving the stuff into either the goodwill pile or directly onto the box truck we rented
it was a period of time without any fans/air conditioning, no electronics, just used an old fm radio like this

at the time, that was one of more boring weeks in my life
but i find myself more and more these days using it as a touchstone memory, one i regularly recall with joy of simpler, easy times without all the distractions and fluff - kinda wild how much i now yearn for the mundane - where i'd find myself without anything super engaging just a few clicks away and instead need to find joy in some basic activity
Interested in thoughts from anyone who's played the big games in the south Philly/Chester area on this post:
you don't use the legacy site? gross
Pretty sure I haven't seen any post reports from either of you guys in there. No way in Hell I'm reading that thread on the daily, so if you want something done you're going to have to report the posts. While I agree the world would be a better place without that thread, it kinda serves a purpose of keeping all that horrible posting in one easily avoided place and not contamina
yes it's very much a containment thread at this point 😀
Interested in thoughts from anyone who's played the big games in the south Philly/Chester area on this post:
you don't use the legacy site? gross
Only when the functionality on the new site doesn't work--so quite often, actually.
holy **** still buzzing after last night in a 1/3 home game when my 99 pwned AQ on a 9AQ9Q board for $2700+
biggest pot of my life
oh man, if i witnessed that happen my spidey sense would be tingling
holy **** still buzzing after last night in a 1/3 home game when my 99 pwned AQ on a 9AQ9Q board for $2700+
biggest pot of my life
Were you worried about overquads? Gotta be something to worry about when there's nearly ~1K bb in the pot.
I wouldn't go broke with 3rd nuts in this spot without reads or bloated preflop ofc.
