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You were making fun of someone for engaging in what you deemed a silly and futile form of resistance. I highlighted that your endless spamming of the same things in the 2+2 Politics forum was also a futile form of resistance. I made the point directly. I wasn't implying anything more or less than what I said explicitly.
turns out that doing cute dances in a furry costume does not actually stop fascism. will the liberals adjust? I dont have much hope.
Physically confronting the gestapo is so much less effective than your courageous strategy of giving views and likes to a social media site run by a goose-stepping Nazi.
You were making fun of someone for engaging in what you deemed a silly and futile form of resistance. I highlighted that your endless spamming of the same things in the 2+2 Politics forum was also a futile form of resistance. I made the point directly. I wasn't implying anything more or less than what I said explicitly.
Ok but you post a lot on the same website so I mean
I’m never forgiving the people who browbeat me endlessly as a party traitor for pointing out long before the debate that Biden was very obviously physically and cognitively finished and those denying it were liars, either to others or themselves or both.
Biden can **** himself. What a typical selfish bastard he turned out to be.
I assume you are talking about people irl. I assumed that Biden was diminished because almost everyone is by their late 70s, but I confess that I was surprised by how much he seemed to have declined between the time he gave the state of the union address in March of 2024 and the time of the debate, which was in late June. He seemed older during the state of the union than the person who ran for office, but not dramatically so. But the person in the debate seemed 15 years older than the person who won the 2020 election. In short, I think that his decline was relatively steep. But that's a big part of the problem with having a president as old as Biden was then and as old as Trump is now. When you get to that age, rapid decline is a real possibility.
I get that you think its edgy to not support slaughtering people all over the world for fun and profit but thats just why you are a liberal Dem supporter and I am a person with actual principles.
Lololol a man of principles, cracking me up there.
A man of principles who voted for biden, probably hillary and obama too.
And now you are insulting daily every one as a ..let me check.. biden voter, obama voter etc...
It’s almost as you are on a payroll here..
Maybe that’s the additionnal income for your late days, very shady posting behavior.
Also you keep repeating that people thinks the dems are great.
I'm curious what medicine your taking to believe this point.
He's so stupid he doesn't understand we don't vote for democrats because we like them.
as stupid as voting for people you don't support?
Thanks democracy, it was nice knowing you.
Crickets about the thousands protesters killed in Iran...
Tell us again victor.
right. bc liberals will always side with fascism. thats why I get the pushback I get on this forum. they will always support Trump over the downfall of the country that was built on the genocide of 10s of millions of natives, and the slavery of 10s of millions of kidnapped Africans, and the mass murder of millions in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Syria, Palestine, Indone
People will side with what protects their family and themselves and their friends above all.
Personally, I don't know why you get the pushback that you get as someone who is to the right of those hating on you because I think you're generally correct with the disasters that the US has caused. But again, people are tribal, so everyone is quick to kick others to the curb when it's politically advantageous, we've seen enough of that and it's pretty incredible to watch, imo.
My biggest disagreement with you, which I also think is tribal, is that I don't think you give enough credence to how horrid some of the leaders of the other countries have been - because both Russia and China are far more fascist than even Trump's America.
Now, opponents might argue that if that fascism is aimed at the U.S., it’s conveniently dismissed or even rationalized as a force for good, while any sign of authoritarianism at home is blown up as the ultimate evil but the reality is, is that 99% of ordinary people, even if they pump gas at Chevron, shouldn't be targets or blamed for the choices of those in power. That should go for all civilians in every country. But it's the civilians who get killed first and sometimes who we even blame the most.
Who are these people that you do like? Do they exist? Because I have reasons as to why people are quick to hating everyone but again, is there someone in congress or anywhere in the universe where you'd say, damn, that guy's got his **** together"
There really should be someone that liberals who use the word 'we' when discussing not wanting to vote for Democrats have in mind.
This makes me think there needs to be an ICE video game. Like MMO game like Call of Duty, and you can play as any of the following parties: ICE, illegals, Hispanic American, Protestor, MAGAT.
Funny, it makes me think that leaders of federal LE agencies shouldn't wear greatcoats similar to SS villains in Schindler's List.
It's partly human nature to think that some undefined political option is better than the actual options available in any given election.
If you went back to 1932, I'm sure you would have found plenty of people saying that they didn't like Hoover or that FDR guy.
Personally, I don't know why you get the pushback that you get as someone who is to the right of those hating on you because I think you're generally correct with the disasters that the US has caused.
Victor doesn't get a lot of pushback on his high-level views about the negative and sometimes catastrophic consequences of American foreign policy. Most people agree with him. He gets pushback because of stuff like this:
the same goes for Venezuela who inexplicably never cracked down hard enough on the Quisling Machado and Guaido groups. ironically enough if Maduro was an actual proper dictator then those thugs would have faced the same fate as the Western backed Supremacist Navalny.
He has become openly supportive of authoritarianism. He just needs to believe it is in service of a left-wing agenda.
Lastly, as I'm sure Victor would acknowledge, he wasn't excommunicated by Democrats or anyone else.
so? It's always been obviously true and always will be.
Democracies whither away and die. We (as you actually posted about) somehow expect principles/morality/etc from those to whom we sell out vote so cheaply
You could argue it's all correlation with no causation if you really want to.
You could argue that rather it's that we sell out vote more and more cheaply as democracy declines. That is partially true as well. It's a cycle of decline
Never would have guessed civil war begins in Minnesota
OK. Your comment made me believe that you were highlighting what you believed to be a specifically modern ailment. I guess that I was wrong.
Ok. I think it's just a simple truth. The degree of the problem at any time varies. What boggles the mind is how anyone can expect anything else if we don't value our votes.
In the UK I'm largely referring to post thatcher. The mainstream left gave up on believing in anything/doing anything in favour of 'we're not as **** as them'. We're still struggling to get it back. (That in no way implies they're aren't other problems).
In the usa I don't know the history so well. If P and later versions are anything to go by then it's currently a deadly serious problem. I suspect it's a more historic problem because people think they can trust in that old piece of paper
I assume you are talking about people irl. I assumed that Biden was diminished because almost everyone is by their late 70s, but I confess that I was surprised by how much he seemed to have declined between the time he gave the state of the union address in March of 2024 and the time of the debate, which was in late June. He seemed older during the state of the union than the
People were also saying all through the 2020 primary that Biden would not be able to get through the debates, Sanders will expose him when it's just the two of them, he has no chance against Trump etc etc etc. I don't know anybody who was saying Biden would fall apart that hadn't been wrong about it for years leading up to it. So it was not unreasonable to dismiss their opinion.
