ClubWPTGold - RNG discussion
I should be up a lot. The games do seem incredible. Thats why it feels off to not be up a lot after a decent amount of
Some smart people tell me there probably is something going on here. usually the perpetrators are not the billion dollar corporations its the people in it trying to become also become rich. Also the sweepstakes model is just a short term gimmick untill governments crack down on it. I don't see wpt gold having a long term future so theirs much less to lose
Some smart people tell me there probably is something going on here. usually the perpetrators are not the billion dollar corporations its the people in it trying to become also become rich. Also the sweepstakes model is just a short term gimmick untill governments crack down on it. I don't see wpt gold having a long term future so theirs much less to lose
the reality is people are likely being teamed on in formats that are highly susceptible to collusion like plo cash. tournaments are stupid easy to print on and havnt seen anything weird there.
All I know is i keep losing in the most absurd ways imaginable and I am never running good. Grinds you down losing 80% of your All ins every session when you are ahead 90% of them. Its absolutely relentless. Feels like playing a slot machine, only worse, because its supposed to be poker
All I know is i keep losing in the most absurd ways imaginable and I am never running good. Grinds you down losing 80% of your All ins every session when you are ahead 90% of them. Its absolutely relentless. Feels like playing a slot machine, only worse, because its supposed to be poker
All i know is in 36k hands i've hit 3-4 royals, 4-5 straight flushes, and like an insane amount of quads. i feel like i see ppl hit quads almost everyday, i even hit quads today and the other guy rivered nut boat lmao. i'm not complaining but even winning this just feels off.
All i know is in 36k hands i've hit 3-4 royals, 4-5 straight flushes, and like an insane amount of quads. i feel like i see ppl hit quads almost everyday, i even hit quads today and the other guy rivered nut boat lmao. i'm not complaining but even winning this just feels off.
I’ve played 200k hands and it’s a little joke to myself because everyday it’s oh there’s my daily quads. Playing on this site there’s a fear in the back of my mind to play my normal game because it feels like everyone will just have it more then they should. Something is off
All i know is in 36k hands i've hit 3-4 royals, 4-5 straight flushes, and like an insane amount of quads. i feel like i see ppl hit quads almost everyday, i even hit quads today and the other guy rivered nut boat lmao. i'm not complaining but even winning this just feels off.
This is my experience too. In less than 100k hands I've hit more royals than I have in millions of hands across multiple sites over the last 15 years. Which is also why I didn't respond to the idea of ''this format just has higher variance'', like **** it does.
You guys must not play a lot of PLO if that’s peculiar.
I see someone with quads or a straight flush every single live PLO session I play and that’s slow as ****.
4 tabling online a quick 2-3 hour session nets me the same result. Someone is gonna get quads or a straight flush at one of the tables over the sample.
This site is by far the softest site ever. What are we actually bitching about? I feel like it’s actually impossible to lose on this site.
35k hands in and winrates are astronomical right now.
Despite what many people probably think, my first thought wasn't "wow this site is rigged", it was "maybe I'm missing something"
I'm not. I think my conservative edge in these games is 20bb/100. It could be much higher to be honest. These games are better than 2006 pokerstars
You are right, it should be nearly impossible to be down with such a massive edge after 30k hands. I guess I am just running in the 99.9th percentile of running bad. Or maybe the site is jenk.
I’ve played 200k hands and it’s a little joke to myself because everyday it’s oh there’s my daily quads. Playing on this site there’s a fear in the back of my mind to play my normal game because it feels like everyone will just have it more then they should. Something is off
Same experience for me. Have played millions of hands across pretty much every site and I have never expected to make quads every day.
I am up money on the site (less than it feels like I should be) and even when I'm winning it feels shady. Card distribution, "action" turns and rivers, it all just feels wrong.
More I play the more I think some amount of card sharing is happening. Would track with all the regs saying they're running way below ev. Went playing everyone to game selecting hard. Should start tallying but I don't remember the last sessions I didn't make quads in
kinda wild how many different winning players are certain something is up with this site. have more royals on here in relatively few hands than in millions on all other sites combined.
sb1234 was my biggest hater/troll in my pgc back in the day telling me I would never make it after my 6 year-to-that-date sun run ended so when I saw he posted I lowkey expected him to come out saying we're a bunch of shitregs who can't keep up.
I am a roughly 20bb/100 winner at PLO25, and a roughly 14bb/100 winner at PLO50 over millions of hands between stars, GG and ipoker. I am also a winning player at plo 100 and 200 but smaller samples. I am used to massive downswings and understand variance.
These games at WPTGold are the softest I have seen in over 15 years. I am unable to win on the site. It's probably collusion more than RNG but I just know my spidey senses are tingling.
I feel like with games this bad my EV adjusted win rate should be 30+bb/100.
The last time I felt like this playing on a site Russ Hamilton was my opponent.
I will give it another 30-40k hands to be sure but I won't be shocked if in the future we find out there was some type of fuckery going on .
I’m winning at 25bb/100 over 40k hands at PLO100 and I may be running below EV.
If you are losing on this site there’s something fundamentally wrong with how you are playing.
Oh and I saw quads yesterday in my online session that was 3 hours long and I saw both a straight flush and quads at my 6 hour live session right after.
These are standard occurrences in PLO.
I am a roughly 20bb/100 winner at PLO25, and a roughly 14bb/100 winner at PLO50 over millions of hands between stars, GG and ipoker. I am also a winning player at plo 100 and 200 but smaller samples. I am used to massive downswings and understand variance. These games at WPTGold are the softest I have seen in over 15 years. I am unable to win on the site. It's probably collusi
If these winrates you claim are true, why the hell don't you move up after holding double digit wr for millions of hands. Absolutely moronic if true.
Quads of the day. I lead 3 times in this limped pot into flopped top boat so needed perfect perfect, but not a problem on clubwptgold
kinda wild how many different winning players are certain something is up with this site. have more royals on here in relatively few hands than in millions on all other sites combined.sb1234 was my biggest hater/troll in my pgc back in the day telling me I would never make it after my 6 year-to-that-date sun run ended so when I saw he posted I lowkey expected him to come out sa
Both things can be true....Jokes aside we can agree on one thing at least
Hope all is well
Another day playing live PLO. 9 hour session. I saw one straight flush and quads twice at my table. RIGGED!
haha thanks, I have a lot to be grateful for. hope all is well with you too.
You were definitely right about those whale filled games on bodog not lasting... simpler times for sure :(
If you aren’t seeing it you are not table selecting hard enough.
I played a 2 hour session last night 4 tables and saw quads twice.
To clarify, this does not mean I had these hands myself. It means someone at one of my tables showed down these hands.
Literally happens every single PLO session I’ve ever played on every site and live.
Lost to quads and a straight flush in today’s session
Rigged!
I also feel like something if off with the run-outs at WPT. I've got tens of thousands of hands at each Ignition, Coin Poker, and WPT Gold, and WPT definitely has a weird feel. I don't know how to describe it. I was just chalking it up to variance but I've seen enough other seasoned players have the same feeling that I'm starting to lean towards that possibility of adjusted turn and river cards. "Where there's smoke, there's fire" type of deal.
I wish they would let us have a way to get hand history so we can disprove the allegations, but they wanted to add more micro transaction like rabbit hunting to the software instead.
