British Politics
Been on holiday for a few weeks, surprised to find no general discussion of British politics so though I'd kick one off.
Import the third world. Become the third world. Just another step on the march towards Lebanon style sectarianism, and potentially Civil War.
Enabling recent immigrants residing in ethnic enclaves (who care absolutely nothing about Britain, except as a mechanism to remit as much British wealth to their homelands as possible) to vote as a block with the animating factor behind hatred for a small minority population and a war 3000 miles away that Britain is barely involved in is not the win you seem to think it is.
What are you going to do in a couple generations when they are 30-40% of the populations, and winning tons of seats because they vote as an ethnic block, with their main policy interest in discriminating against Jews and Israel? Pretty much end of democracy.
Greens are hopefully already 30 - 40 % of the population.
Big ask for them to win 100s of seats but you never know
Greens are hopefully already 30 - 40 % of the population.
Big ask for them to win 100s of seats but you never know
Do you have any idea how big the demographic shift is going to be in 20 years when all the Baby Boomers (or whatever term you use in Britain) are dead? Massive. And the new majority is completely tribal and illiberal, and have no interest at all in any of the domestic policies on the Green agenda, except promoting antisemitism. Islamists will form their own parties and the Greens will become completely irrelevant.
White Britains will split along ideology, party and policy preferences, and non whites will vote in ethnic blocks and crush elections, even if they are only 30-40% of the total population (or even lower).
Britain is proper ****ed.
Lol looks like the new right wing play is to claim fraud/cheating whenever you lose. What a sad bunch of wankers.
Greens are hopefully already 30 - 40 % of the population.
Big ask for them to win 100s of seats but you never know
By elections are somewhat different to general elections, as you know.
But anyway getting 40% of the vote, especially when the polls had them 10% lower, was an achievement, but partly fuelled by the crazy rhetoric of pseudo scientist Matt Goodwin (who I’ve covered here before many times over the years), that voters probably found alarming.
Lol looks like the new right wing play is to claim fraud/cheating whenever you lose. What a sad bunch of wankers.
All they have is a bunch of bigoted takes that they can’t even agree on, so they end up aping Trumpian rhetoric.
As for Labour…
Keir Starmer is facing an ultimatum from his own party to change direction or risk a leadership challenge within months after the Greens humiliated Labour with a historic byelection victory in Gorton and Denton.
Overturning a 13,000 Labour majority from the general election, Hannah Spencer, a local plumber and Green councillor, became the party’s fifth MP on Friday. Reform UK’s Matt Goodwin was second, just ahead of the Labour candidate, Angeliki Stogia.
By elections are somewhat different to general elections, as you know.
But anyway getting 40% of the vote, especially when the polls had them 10% lower, was an achievement, but partly fuelled by the crazy rhetoric of pseudo scientist Matt Goodwin (who I’ve covered here before many times over the years), that voters probably found alarming.
Very different and of course take your point. But we also have to recognize that like with the weather, historical data from the last few centuries doesn't tell us as much as it used to. Times they have a changed.
Also worth laughing at is that the tories apparently got their lowest vote share ever. 1.9%
Lol looks like the new right wing play is to claim fraud/cheating whenever you lose. What a sad bunch of wankers.
There's evidence of multiple breaches of the Ballot Secrecy Act which police are investigating. In itself this won't have affected the Green v Reform result -- Reform had an obvious problem in a largely Muslim seat. But there is a legitimate concern over the importation of Pakistani electoral malpractice to Britain, and over the whole issue of ethnic block-voting.
I don't think anyone wants that but I certainly want the devastating destructive war on drugs ended.
This falls apart somewhat when you consider that Reform's allegation is that Muslims, who we're assured are mainly socially conservative or reactionary, were led en masse by the hand to vote for the party with a gay Jewish leader.
Something here doesn't really add up.
Starmer has refused to show solidarity with the Iranian people. I’m hearing the reason for this is due to the large presence of IRGC in the UK. Some say that the UK is the second biggest headquarters of the Iranians.
I listened to starmer speech and he was so cautious that it was a bit absurd, but I believe it was the right attitude.
Some random comments on the net saying UK and other EU countries , as friends of USA should absolutely be on board like they always been.
Well I guess friends got pissed to be backstabbed on a daily basis by the US and threatened and punished for random reasons at random times.
I am pretty happy for once that the US is not the unquestionned voice of EU, they did that to themselves.
Most of EU refused to join the Iraq war as well. It is a bit encouraging to see the UK moving glacially in thr right direction
Most of EU refused to join the Iraq war as well. It is a bit encouraging to see the UK moving glacially in thr right direction
Apart from which country that seems to be leading the way for Europe?
Starmer has refused to show solidarity with the Iranian people. I’m hearing the reason for this is due to the large presence of IRGC in the UK. Some say that the UK is the second biggest headquarters of the Iranians.
I doubt it's anything to do directly with Iran (despite the history of difficulties between the two) and everything to do with the Israel tail that wags the USA dog.
It's becoming increasingly likely that Starmer was an MI5 plant to undermine Corbyn, so he'll do what his handlers tell him.
--This is the type of sectarian worldview that makes Middle East nation states failures, and it is the future of Britain too due to demographic changes. No one should be wailing in the streets for the death of any leader; that is absurd third world culty behavior. But the fact it is not even the leader of your own nation is equally absurd and destructive.
