[extracted] New(?) 9-11 stuff

I think for the most part, the problem isn't your political opinions, right or wrong as they may be, it's that you're a massive twat.

wE aReN't oN tHe sAmE tEaM bUdDy

Your penchant for psychobabble is a thing to behold.

Deuces,

There is nothing in the world that I care less about than ensuring that I am on the same team as you. I don't know what you mean when you say that I don't want to own up to a political identity. I feel like I have been relatively transparent about my political opinions. I historically have voted for the Democrats, sometimes because I thought the Democratic candidate would do a good job, and other times because I thought the Democrat would do a less bad job than the Republican. I don't subscribe to the view that voting for a political candidate or party is an endorsement of everything that candidate or party does. I am critical of the U.S. government's position on I/P. Unlike you and and a few other people, I don't assign all the blame for the death of every Palestinian to the United States generally or to the Democratic party specifically, although both bear some of the blame.

I don't what you mean when you say that I think the "righteous" are a "lower class" of people than I am. You don't know anything about me. If you are imagining that I grew up with a silver spoon in my mouth by U.S. standards, you are very wrong. I am no modern day aristocrat. If you are imagining that I have disdain for poor people, I don't. If you are imagining that I associate support for left-wing policies policies with stupidity or ignorance, I don't.

This is what all people who habitually take bad shots think.

Believe it or not, my disdain for you isn't really about where you are on a left-right political spectrum. There are people here who I like who are at approximately the same spot on the political spectrum as you. And it isn't because I think you are stupid. You are a better writer than most people here and probably have more innate intelligence than a lot of people here. I have disdain for you because your primary personality characteristic seems to be insufferable and unjustified arrogance.

You going for a walk and falling off the edge.

Polymarket truly will create a market for anything.

Your mention of Victor made me think of this quote from Victor from about three months ago.

Leave it to billy to prove that Victor was being hyperbolic. I'm quite sure that Victor believes the earth is spherical.

I checked this already. Just in case.

Deuces thinking his bad shots somehow age well is a pretty comical take, especially in this thread where his 10 year old theories get destroyed again and again.. His narcissistic self-soothing is probably his strongest psychological defense mechanism.

Simulation theory confirmed.

For him, they aren't theories, they are core beliefs. Witness his continual repetition of "molten steel at ground zero" despite it being repeatedly demonstrated that there is no evidence of that whatsoever. It's simply a core belief of his - something he can't change.

It's actually wild to think about that way, but that' what it is. He will dance all around the burden to provide even the first shred of evidence, quite consciously. He knows what he's doing when he does it. But he has to.

It would be fascinating if it wasn't sad.

I thought the flat earth guy was going to stick around a while longer but I guess the writing was on the wall. If he had, I was going to ask him the question that always comes to my mind when this topic comes up. If the Earth is not a sphere, how do you explain the fact that people in one half of the planet (or disk or whatever) can see constellations of stars that people in the other half cannot?

My dude, you have clearly not been keeping up on the horizon dip lessons. Nobody cares about your dumb constellations, we're doing real science here.

I stay away from wagers whose grading is problematic.

I can't get a straight concession on people about Russiagate. Russiagate was the nest of insinuation and speculation about Trump being controlled by Russia and Russia having significant influence over our elections. Every part of Russiagate has been proven demonstrably false - every single bit of it. Yet, not a single soul in the world who propagated those lies or believed them can bring themselves to admit they were wrong.

Did Hamas put babies in ovens or cut their heads off? No. There isn't a shred of credible evidence suggesting this happened. Yet, Biden kept saying it long after the retractions even from the paid liars in mainstream media.

We live in an era without a shared fabric of reality. You people here blame conspiracy theorists for that but you give them way, way too much credit. It's YOU. You libs are hearing things from the media, believing them, ignoring the contradicting information, and plunging full steam ahead and never admitting you were suckered. It's you who are tearing apart said fabric with your craven obedience, not to mention giving credence to any demagogue like Trump to come along and give himself credibility by exposing your beyond transparent charade.

How can you even wager on events in such a time? We can't agree on anything.

Keep telling yourself that and keep refusing to address what we just saw in the Epstein files related to 9/11. I've said your theories are totally invalid fabrications and obfuscations. You haven't proved that wrong. All you've shown, time and time again, is that you don't even know anything about what is supposedly supporting your beliefs. The government's 9/11 conspiracy theory is a bunch of empty assertions. All you know is the assertions. You don't know how they are supposed to be substantiated and you've certainly never substantiated them.

And don't read my work in the original I/P thread where I was castigated and banned for merely articulating the nature and future actions of Israel which are now mainstream takes.

You mean like when you decided to believe when the American Government told you some hoopla about a military war game that favored the chances of your team winning? I looked into that and it was every bit as lopsided as the tiny part you quoted. Did you accept any contradictory information or at least look at the parameters of that setup, or go full steam ahead and never admit you were suckered like you were with the molten steel or building #7?

You make good points about govt corruption and the lies they fabricate to control the narrative, but you seem to have dedicated yourself to some of the far weaker arguments when I think you've got plenty of ammo elsewhere. You could still post walls of text discussing American corruption without trying to spin every potential tidbit that may be advantageous to your side - because I think when you do that, it takes credit away from the stuff you do say that is true.

Hoopla? This wasn't, as far as I can remember, a news item. It was a very expensive training exercise meant to establish that we could kick Iran's ass. It showed the opposite despite it being juked to conform to to pre desired conclusion. That is just a fact and I don't think I said much more on it. It is actually a rich report with a lot of interesting and frank takes about our lack of military modernization and adaptation. There is internal reporting done by government agencies with requires accuracy which is educational when it's released. Things like this probably won't be released in this current era.

I wasn't suckered. There is plenty of compelling evidence for the presence of large amounts of molten steel, from FEMA reports to thermal-imaging to eye witness accounts to video. As to building 7 there was an extensive study done by University of Alaska. They say building 7 didn't go down how the government said. If that's not good enough for you I don't even know how you manage to tie your own shoes. Maybe you don't.

So you are not going to learn anything at all from the Epstein files, are you? Wake up. Our reality is worse than anything I've been describing. I honestly don't see how people look at the Epstein files and then double down on establishment propaganda. You truly have the soul of a lemming.

Were you aware that eyewitnesses, thermal imaging cameras, and video do not have the ability to differentiate between molten steel and molten aluminium, thereby you have evidence of molten metal, not molten steel? One would have thought you would be, since you've been told it about a dozen times here. But as one of your other defining personality characteristics does seem to be complete lack of ability to take on or retain any information that conflicts with your pre-existing beliefs, it's hardly a surprise. Either that or you're just being a lying little turd as usual, and you are fully aware that the evidence you reference doesn't exist. Neither interpretation is flattering for you.

Link to FEMA report of molten steel?

Do you think he's going to post a link to something that said molten metal? Because I think he will.

Either that or he will play the why should I bother game. What's your guess?

Outside shot of him posting a link to someone else saying fema has evidence of molten steel, I guess.

What significance am I suppose to give an email from an author of a Warren Commission conspiracy theory book who asked Maxwell if she wanted to be on a shadow commission? It’s a shitty joke or evidence that the 9/11 commission didn’t not write the report?

I'm not happy about this switch, I want Billy back. I'd literally rather spend two weeks talking to Billy about flat Earth than two minutes talking to Deuces about.... anything.

I was more interested the fake pilots but that was also interesting.

Do you think someone who knows Ghislane Maxwell and works with her and has written a conspiracy book is more likely to be a conspiracy theorist or a misinformation agent?

And do you think that people like Maxwell and the people she talks to make time to write joke emails that have no apparent punchlines? These are serious people.Say what you want about Epstein. He was the Devil or criminally insane or a complete idiot or a spy or whatever - if he was anything he was industrious and dedicated. The sheer span and volume of projects in which he was involved was mind boggling. Same with Maxwell.

The reports revealed she was a lead moderator in some of the largest forums on reddit. Look at her history and her father's history. What the hell do you think she was doing as a supermod on Reddit? She was trying to spoil our politics in ways that favored what is happening right now, the U.S. spending our lives and our money to destroy Iran for Israel, setting our economy on fire for their Jewish supremacist ideology. Israel has been long obsessed with American public opinion. They devote enormous sums of money and intellectual resources towards controlling what we think. When their super agents, people who hang out with and blackmail the most powerful people in the world, talk about shadow commissions they aren't joking.

The 9/11 commission is a joke. Even some on the commission have more or less said so. Their report is a joke. I like to point out where it says that the question of who funded the attacks doesn't matter. I've quoted that like 5 times in here. That should be seen as a smoking gun of a cover up. But I don't think, in all these years, any person who supports the government narrative has ever commented on that comment. They can't defend it because it is indefensible, but they also can't acknowledge the obvious implications, so they just ignore it.

So, that FEMA report link coming soon then, yeah?

Just to recap, you are saying the video of molten metal pouring out of the south tower was aluminum.

And we all agree that the metal pouring out was luminescent orange? And we all agree that aluminum doesn't glow and doesn't turn orange?

And your story is that all that molten metal was aluminum but it was mixed with paper or something and that made it glow?