Israel/Palestine thread
Israel/Palestine thread
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Israel/Palestine thread

Think this merits its own thread...

Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.

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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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by Trolly McTrollson m

Why would other Arab states be obligated to rush in Just pure ethnonationalist bullshit

You are clearly willfully ignorant of 20th century Arab history. In the fall of the Ottomans and occupation by British and French, The Arab world went through a very strong ethno-nationalist movement. Arabs in Gulf countries absolutely felt obligated to rush in for ethno-nationalist reasons. The secular ethno-nationalist movements actually tied their legitimacy towards promises to conquer Israel, and lost a lot of legitimacy when they were unable to deliver. Ushering in Islamist movements.


by jalfrezi m

How did they explain the ruptured bowel and perforated anus?
Lol at anyone trying to use the defense again that the difference is Israel holds their soldiers accountable. I know it was flimsy already but just saying.


They are trying to jail the lady that released the video and charged these men.

Bibi needs to go and the Israelis need to wake up from this feverish nightmare.


by 5 south m

How did they explain the ruptured bowel and perforated anus?
Lol at anyone trying to use the defense again that the difference is Israel holds their soldiers accountable. I know it was flimsy already but just saying.

The problem is you are assuming the nonsense in Jalfrezi's post is actually true. When there is no real evidence it is. It is kind of wild that so many people are so sure they have seen video of a sexual assault, when no such video exists. It really is a mass psychosis event.

It seems this all stems from a report that an Palestinian prisoner tried to smuggle contraband up his anus (which prisoners everywhere have been doing for a long time), injured himself doing it, and was treated.

And then this giant, made up propaganda campaign of a sexual assault happened. But there is nothing there. It is 99% made up bullshit.

Or at least that is what Israel is claiming. But we have no real information one way or another. We just all see and hear what we want to.


by grizy m

They are trying to jail the lady that released the video and charged these men.

Bibi needs to go and the Israelis need to wake up from this feverish nightmare.

What video?


by Dunyain m

The problem is you are assuming the nonsense in Jalfrezi's post is actually true. When there is no real evidence it is. It is kind of wild that so many people are so sure they have seen video of a sexual assault, when no such video exists. It really is a mass psychosis event. It seems this all stems from a report that an Palestinian prisoner tried to smuggle contraband up h

Haha, sure man, he did all that to himself. Or maybe he has a Hamas commander center hidden up his ass...


by Dunyain m

The problem is you are assuming the nonsense in Jalfrezi's post is actually true. When there is no real evidence it is. It is kind of wild that so many people are so sure they have seen video of a sexual assault, when no such video exists. It really is a mass psychosis event. It seems this all stems from a report that an Palestinian prisoner tried to smuggle contraband up h

Hahaha. You Israel propagandists truly have 0 shame.


by 5 south m

Haha, sure man, he did all that to himself. Or maybe he has a Hamas commander center hidden up his ass...

Releasing the victim was awfully convenient as well.

Clearly some Israelis are still fighting against their authoritarian leaders (or the video would have never been released and those soldiers would not be charged) but as Bibi consolidates power by pandering to the right wing nationalists, the window to save Israel’s moral high ground is shrinking fast.


by grizy m

Releasing the victim was awfully convenient as well.

Clearly some Israelis are still fighting against their authoritarian leaders (or the video would have never been released and those soldiers would not be charged) but as Bibi consolidates power by pandering to the right wing nationalists, the window to save Israel’s moral high ground is shrinking fast.

What video? Charged with what?

I dont think anyone is arguing the prison guards weren't being very heavy handed and rough with the prisoners. The prison was infamously known for that. However, the investigation was for sexual assault, which there was no clear evidence of. And certainly no smoking gun video. Believing there is seems to be mass psychosis on your all part.


by Deuces McKracken m

I don't know what you are getting at saying I don't give two shits about Epstein. Even if I had no morals and was a totally self interested being, I would still give two shits about Epstein. If you are trying to say that I don't care about kids getting raped, that I don't care that this guy had a dentist take out children's teeth so they couldn't bit when they were raped, if yo

How many people do you feel fall into this category in the USA? I'd request and fully appreciate if you could be as honest as you can. Maybe pretend you strapped to a lie detector test that works and your mind is on display.

The rest about most Trumpers being decent people yet it's the conservatives you hate and it really isn't the brainwashed folks who think that communism is a bad idea that you want to kill but those who are against community and mutual aid is really just more of the same scrambled egg responses from you that doesn't mean anything.


Deuces, forget any and all questions about molten steel and droned 747s in 2001 or any other question I've ever asked and let me use my one time on this one with you. Forget and ignore all those other plebs asking you questions too.

Give an approximate number on how many of these people are in the US?

I'm talking about people who have an innate hatred for the ideas of community and mutual aid. Most of you don't know who I am talking about but this is a well defined, small set of, I guess you might call them, people.


When you starting that commie thread F72?
I need to hear some pro arguments for it, not loving the current system.


by 5 south m

When you starting that commie thread F72?
I need to hear some pro arguments for it, not loving the current system.

There will be no commie thread. No communal gatherings telling stories around the firepit. The Trumpers are now good people again.


UN rights office says more than 36,000 Palestinians forcibly displaced in one year due to Israeli settler, army violence.




by Deuces McKracken m

I don't know what you are getting at saying I don't give two shits about Epstein. Even if I had no morals and was a totally self interested being, I would still give two shits about Epstein. If you are trying to say that I don't care about kids getting raped, that

I guess I skipped this part but you're telling me that folks should not be abused by power hungry individuals and deserve protection yet mention that you want an entire group of people killed to fortify your personal economic preferences. You're certainly not alone in that thought but at least own the position.

But you claim that I am wrong and out of line by saying so and maybe you're right and I am out of line, so again, how many of these people do you deem worthy to kill themselves to meet your preferred ideals in your opinion? Is it 20 people? 20K? 20 million? You mentioned you'd call them human for argumentized purposes, so I assume there are quite a few here - because this selective empathy is both a major tell by you that you should honestly see and also isn't very convincing.


A truly depraved society.


This is all planned…

The last prime minister that suggested a 2 state solution got whacked.

They want war… they want to usher in end time prophecy.. they want everyone turning on them and to build 3rd temple and greater you know what.

Peace is their enemy.


Israel’s Knesset wants to pass a law to summarily execute all the 11,000 Palestinians it’s holding in camps, including 700 children.

The Death Penalty Bill stipulates that the death penalty will, in practice, apply only to Palestinians and that it is to be the mandatory sentence for judges, even if the prosecution does not seek it.


by jalfrezi m

Israel’s Knesset wants to pass a law to summarily execute all the 11,000 Palestinians it’s holding in camps, including 700 children.

The Death Penalty Bill stipulates that the death penalty will, in practice, apply only to Palestinians and that it is to be the mandatory sentence for judges, even if the prosecution does not seek it.

I think the mandatory clause was taken out last week after pressure from Netanyahu's office and Shin Bet (on the grounds that it would make Israel look bad), so judges can still commute the penalty, and the clause specifying death only if the victims of the terrorist act were 'Israeli citizens' has also apparently gone, for the same political reason.


The judicial discretion and citizenship amendments are linked. Instead of Jewish settler terrorists who murder Arab non-citizens automatically getting off the death penalty, they will now benefit from the discretion clause. So the effect may be the same in practice, but it looks a bit better on paper.


They killed 2 well known journalists and 4 more paramedics in Lebanon today. 46 paramedics total now. A country absolutely addicted to the blood of non-Jews.


by PokerEthics m

This is all planned…

The last prime minister that suggested a 2 state solution got whacked.

They want war… they want to usher in end time prophecy.. they want everyone turning on them and to build 3rd temple and greater you know what.

Peace is their enemy.

I think you’re right. They say the Messiah will be here in our lifetime. This obviously would create the conditions for the third Temple to be built. It makes perfect sense. The Jews were there over 600 years BI. Obviously the two state solution was dead on arrival by the Muslims.


for the people that blame Bibi or even Israel for this.

https://substack.com/home/post/p-1923500...

only sharing bc it was written by a Jew. obv if an Arab or Persian said this, as many have already, then it would be "antisemitism".


Id probably say "Yes, all whites" too tho.


by Victor m

for the people that blame Bibi or even Israel for this.https://substack.com/home/post/p-1923500...only sharing bc it was written by a Jew. obv if an Arab or Persian said this, as many have already, then it would be "antisemitism". Id probably say "Yes, all whites" too tho.

There’s a lot of jealousy towards the most successful people.

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