GOAT NBA Discussion: Biggest fraud poster: fallguy. Super AIDS Containment thread
Also, expecting the Rockets to take care of business and beat the Lakers. But still an excellent performance by the Lakers to take game 1.
You can't expect the GOAT at 41 to win a series when the two best players are out. The fact we are even saying it is a possibility is saying something. LeBron should be averaging 6/3/1 at this point in his career.
Was Jordan ever the 3rd best player on his team? Even at the end Jordan was still the best on his team. Goats are always the best on their team. Austin Reaves better than Lebron James=Lebron James the goat! Ok!
And Lebron has always taken care of his body and through advancements in health players can have longer careers and still play at a high level. Lebron being the perfect example. He doesn't play any worse than when he was younger if you asked me, maybe a little but looks the same to me. Dude's a conditioned beast. I'll give you when he was younger he was better than Reaves though. At least all around.
Was Jordan ever the 3rd best player on his team? Even at the end Jordan was still the best on his team. Goats are always the best on their team. Austin Reaves better than Lebron James=Lebron James the goat! Ok!
And Lebron has always taken care of his body and through advancements in health players can have longer careers and still play at a high level.
Why does it matter? Would you rather be prime Draymond Green or 2012 Gerald Henderson?
At least now we know you don't value winning.
Why are you trying to measure 41 year old LeBron against being the best player in the game?
MJ wasn't at 39.
It's not possible to do it at that age.
Why does it matter? Would you rather be prime Draymond Green or 2012 Gerald Henderson?
At least now we know you don't value winning.
Why are you trying to measure 41 year old LeBron against being the best player in the game?
MJ wasn't at 39.
It's not possible to do it at that age.
Dray's career lifted by Steph. Don't remember Gerald Henderson. Name i remember don't know who he played with. Jordan? See hard to remember people Steph and Jordan played with while Lebron played wth the best of his generation and was less succsessful.
I don't value winning? Jordan 6 titles. 6 for 6 in finals in a shortened career compared to Lebron. Lebron 4 titles and 6 losses. Ouch 6 losses. This while Lebron played with a buy to the finals for a big chunk of his career in the soft eastern conference. Then the west "schooled him". Apparently you are the won that doesn't value winning. Also Steph 4 and 2 in finals.
I don't expect Lebron to be perfect. I give him plenty of leeway being 41. More than he deserves prolly becasue of his conditioning i doubt he's lost much. So ok a i get deferring to Luka. And maybe even Reeves, not really Reeves, your Lebron James deferring to Reeves? C'mon bro. But they're both out now it's time for you to be the man. And instead he still defers to count on average players instead on trusting himself to get the job done. Luckily for Lebron his teammates over-performed and Houston played horrible offense so they got the win.
I have more faith in the king then you guys do. I expected him to get 30 minimum. And still think he will multiple times if he realizes he needs to take over offensive responsibilities. If he has guys around him like you guys saying oh great performance Lebron, that 19 points was exceptional! Keep counting on your average teammates to carry you. Then he won't get 30 as he'll keep deferring to lesser players than himself. When will Lebron take charge? This is the potential goat you speak of.
You guys act like phew Lebron got through the game and wasn't bad enough to get mocked. I expected him to be Batman. Instead he wasn't even Robin. He was Alfred the butler serving Batman and Robin, Kenard and Hachimura.
Also, expecting the Rockets to take care of business and beat the Lakers. But still an excellent performance by the Lakers to take game 1.
You can't expect the GOAT at 41 to win a series when the two best players are out. The fact we are even saying it is a possibility is saying something. LeBron should be averaging 6/3/1 at this point in his career.
It was never fair for Lebron to have a top 5 teammate like Luka or AD anyway - the team was manufactured to begin with by getting 2 franchise players while every other team only had 1.. How was having a top 5 teammate EVER fair for the rest of the league facing Lebron?
Then he still had a 28 ppg sidekick like Reaves, plus ayton, rui, and company... Again, the roster was manufactured and unfair to begin with, so now it's simply come back to the field and even with everyone else (1 franchise player per team)..
It's amazing how after 1000 pages of tutelage, you're STILL falling for the fraud, fluff and propaganda, aka "b-b-but the Lakers are missing their top 2 players!!", smh lol... Again, the league manufactured things for Lebron to win and/or stay relevant/competitive... Accordingly, his roster is now even with everyone else
What's the Rudy line something like "you're a captain of this team, act like it, i believe i am sir."
Lebron James. You're considered the goat by some, but even the one's that don't see you anywhere near there, still realize you had a nice career. How bout you act like it instead acting like a beta deferring to guys names we'll never remember. No disrespect to kenard and hachimura. But your Lebron james bro. Did you forget? Time to put the big boy pants on, man up, and show people Lebron James deserves worthy of goat consideration. Or at least a top 20 player of all time. Not being clowned by people named Reeves, Hachimura, and Kenard. You the man Lebron. Let's Go!!!!!!!!!!
So Lebron was third to Luka and Reeves. Now there out. Now he's third to Kenard and Hachimura? Maybe 4th to Ayton? What's the world coming to?
Lebron being the all time scoring leader should equal 1 title.
10 straight scoring titles should equal 2 titles
So should a season with 3000 point/200 steal/100 block
Imagine if someone led the scoring every year for the last 10 years - that's what MJ did, while also being a goat defender
10 straight scoring titles should equal 2 titles
So should a season with 3000 point/200 steal/100 block
Imagine if someone led the scoring every year for the last 10 years - that's what MJ did, while also being a goat defender
But Lebron played a thousand years in the league. Played beta 2 option and scored alot of points? That's not as good as the guy who was the perrenial scoring leader? Say it ain't so Joe, or Lebron????
My advice to Lebron James. Drive to the hoop if they swarm you dish. But not just pass at top of the key to Hachimura and hope for the best. Let's go Lebron, let's get into the fight!!!!!!!! Wake up bro, you're Lebron flippin James!!!! No settling for chucking up 3's that you yourself look surprised when they land safely.
Re-engage Maverick, get back in the fight! No it doesn't look good, i'll let Hachimura be our leader!
Wemby..maybe i'm the goatya! Wembygoatya!
Yeah, Wemby clearly better than Jordan at the same age.
Was Jordan ever the 3rd best player on his team? Even at the end Jordan was still the best on his team. Goats are always the best on their team. Austin Reaves better than Lebron James=Lebron James the goat! Ok! And Lebron has always taken care of his body and through advancements in health players can have longer careers and still play at a high level. Lebron being the perfect
Wizards Jordan might be the 4th best player on the this Lakers team, but you'd take the role players over him because all he had was scoring and he's leagues worse than Luka/Reeves/Bron at that during those years, so functionally would be worthless on the team. Hell he'd probably still be a net negative in game 2 with Luka/Reeves out.
Playing at a lower level for longer (longevity) will never qualify for GOAT.The highest caliber of basketball that has ever been achieved in the modern era (offensive basketball) is 2 three-peats... or 72 wins + title... or 6 FMVP... or 6 titles as the best player,... or 10 straight scoring titles + 1st team defense.Only Jordan reached this caliber of individual and team domina
1k for 10 years is less than 950k for 20 years.
You are the only person on the planet that downplays Lebron's absurd better than anyone to ever play the game longevity. Hundreds of games at All-NBA level more than anyone else. Kareem aka #3 GOAT is the only player close enough to compare h2h and it's not that close.
What about this Cade guy? Sweet jumper! Feels like he never misses. Not afraid to take it to the hoop too.
1k for 10 years is less than 950k for 20 years.
You are the only person on the planet that downplays Lebron's absurd better than anyone to ever play the game longevity. Hundreds of games at All-NBA level more than anyone else. Kareem aka #3 GOAT is the only player close enough to compare h2h and it's not that close.
Everyone knows the longevity means nothing because by that logic, anyone can play at a low level but just play for 30 years and be the goat.. A role player could just play 35 years and be goat based on the longevity argument.. And no one cared when Kareem was #1 for points and #3 for rebounds because he only had 3 titles as the best player, just like Lebron.. Kareem never reached the highest level of individual and team dominance like MJ did.. And neither has Lebron.. No one ever will
I still can't believe how Lebron's last game has been spun into being a masterpiece lol. And i don't mean just you guys, i mean in the media. Once again, went to the foul line once and missed both free throws. MASTERCLASS!!!!!!!!!
This while dude's all around the league balling and barely getting praise lol. What about Kenard? Best game of his nba career. No, it's Lebron's world and everyone's wearing those rose-colored glasses. Lebron mentored Kenard into having a good game lol.
One guy said if Lebron wins this series the goat argument is over LOL!
Jordan put work in driving to the hoop and getting to the line, taking the hits. Getting his jersey dirty. He didn't walk the ball up like Lebron and hand off to Steve Kerr(Kenard for Lebron), and hope Kerr hits a bunch of shots to carry Jordan(himself), then sit back and watch everyone say awesome game MJ. Masterclass!
Maybe they saw what happened without having a hilariously satirical level of bias like you. I don't think you actually believe what you're posting.
Maybe they saw what happened without having a hilariously satirical level of bias like you. I don't think you actually believe what you're posting.
LOL!!!!!!!! Funny i feel the same about you guys. There is no way you guys believe Lebron James is better than Jordan. i mean it's literally impossible to believe that. Nobody believes that if they are being honest, not even Lebron himself believe's that. You guys just fans of Lebron so want to talk him up and paint rosie pictures to make it look like he's better, or close to Jordan. When we all know it's not close.
I wonder if even one of you really believe what you're saying. Last week you were all on that Michael Jordan was a choker, and wasn't a big game player like Lebron, the clutch king of basketball lol. You're telling me that's an honest argument? Or people saying things they really don't believe hoping to try and convince anyone with these lies to fool someone into thinking it true. Another good one was saying Lebron schooled and clowned Steph"the baby-faced assassin" Curry. One of them was definately schooled and clowned, but it wasn't Curry. Curry's history with Lebron is Curry and his team dominating Lebron for almost all of his career. Lebron winning once in a very close game 7 where all the warriors were injured. Not the other way around. Then Lebron calling everyone in his goat-type players rolodex to come play with him to he might have a chance.
You really believe going to the line once in a playoff game and missing both free throws is a stellar performance for someone being talked about as the goat? Really? But i'm the one that doesn't believe what i'm saying lol. Let's keep the arguments based in reality and honesty.
Everyone knows the longevity means nothing because by that logic, anyone can play at a low level but just play for 30 years and be the goat.. A role player could just play 35 years and be goat based on the longevity argument.. And no one cared when Kareem was #1 for points and #3 for rebounds because he only had 3 titles as the best player, just like Lebron.. Kareem never reach
You like saying everyone could do it when none of the 5k or so NBA players besides him have ever done it.
It's not 6ppg from 10mins, it's 21ppg on good efficiency 100 games further in his career than anyone has ever played.
Kareem is the 3rd best player of all time and his longevity is a big part of it. He has the peak too.
Kareem number 3? Kareem a cool dude, and a great basketball player. But there's guys better than him. Off the top of my head.. Jordan, Bird, Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, Dirk Nowvitski, Dwayne Wade, Steph Curry, Joe Dumars, Isiah Thomas, Jokic. Shaq, Kobe, Hakeen Olojawon, Clyde Drexler, Durant.
Kareem number 3? Kareem a cool dude, and a great basketball player. But there's guys better than him. Off the top of my head.. Jordan, Bird, Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, Dirk Nowvitski, Dwayne Wade, Steph Curry, Joe Dumars, Isiah Thomas, Jokic. Shaq, Kobe, Hakeen Olojawon, Clyde Drexler, Durant.
This is an amazing post that and needs to be quoted for record keeping purposes.
Joe Dumars is probably my favorite. A guy that has never finished higher than 10th in the MVP, vs a guy that won 6 of them.
Joe Dumars finished with one vote that year.
Finishing 834 votes behind Barkley.
