Sklansky thread

DBBPs are different from limit O8 or S8. Usually in low-mid stakes limit OE or Big O games seats don't open up because no one busts out. Playing loose will lose big in limit O8, etc., but slowly.

Draw games are the past and also the future of mix games. Everything comes back around.

I find it odd even after selling up the site that Mason would still be an administrator - maybe a mod but not an administrator unless this is some honorary thing.

A good player has a big advantage at mixed games because people misplay some of the games. Limit S8 and O8 result in a lot of split pots, where no one loses big on a hand. DBBPs fish can overplay their hands and get stacked really easily.

I don't. Small business buyouts often include an employment contract to preserve continuity.

I ran the biggest split pot games ever with the best players. It was yuge and everyone liked my games bigly.

I played in a NL2-7SD tournament at The Bike last month and everybody seemed to really enjoy it.

They considered whether to make the WSOP ME NL2-7SD instead of NLHE. It used to be big in California when stud and holdem were banned.

They have NL 5cd high I think in WSOP dealers choice and some things like that. It is actually a good game and really old. It was what Wild Bill Hickock was shot playing by a losing poker player, supposedly holding AA88x.

I like playing badeucey and badacy is mixed games, because people make a lot of mistakes, including drawing mistakes.

I never heard this.

This isn't true. I lived in South California before stud and hold 'em became legal and I never saw this game. What was played was California ace-to-five limit lowball, which was a draw game with two rounds of betting (and I played a fair amount of it). But it was always played limit.

I did, on a couple of occasions, see a small no-limit ace-to-five draw lowball game. But it wasn't deuce-to-seven."

My main regret in poker is that I never got to play A5 lowball in a smokey California cardroom.

Live vicariously through others.

Very funny. Nick Schulman won that $10K event in last year's WSOP. It attracted 233 players. How many played in the actual main event?

I started playing in Bay Area card rooms in 1991. My preferred game initially was A-5SD Lowball, which we just called Lowball. I later learned that it was sometimes referred to as California Lowball to distinguish it from the 2-7TD variant that was played in Vegas.

I played this variety of Lowball regularly in four different rooms in the 1990s: Cameo Club, Garden City, Artichoke Joe's, and the Oaks. But I've never seen the 2-7TD variant in the Bay Area. In two of these rooms, Lowball was a limit game, but in the other two the stakes were no-limit. Most but not all of these rooms used a Joker, which was an incredibly powerful wild card in that game.

A no-limit Lowball game might be played for very low stakes: $4 to go, with a minimum buy-in of $40. But at AJ's I played with two pros who were used to playing for much higher stakes, and if a whale showed up who wanted to buy in for $10K, they had the cash on hand to match that amount. We'd then get these high-stakes heads-up clashes in the midst of an otherwise low-stakes ring game.

In at least one of the rooms where I played, the game was dealt by the players, as in the memorable opening scene from California Split:

Try explaining to a young poker player that cash games in card clubs had no dealers and were in fact dealt by the players themselves.

You very clearly have no clue what you're talking about

This is true.

I think you have your girls mixed up.

I agree with this. While his email to her was stupid, my understanding is that she was someone who suffered from extreme depression, and probably shouldn't of been playing poker. Mat Sklansky also recently heard from her boyfriend at that time who essentially, according to Mat, said the same thing.

This is accurate. He told me on several occasions that he had no interest in the poker hall of fame. Some of it had to do with unethical people, in his opinion, who were in it, and some people who just didn't play poker very well who didn't belong (again in his opinion).

You very clearly have no clue that by promulgating this nonsense you are not only insulting Brandi’s memory by implying she could be swayed so strongly by some dime a dozen creepy old man type she’d been dealing with since 7th grade, but are also granting David powers that, on his very worst days, he secretly craved & lusted for, like Ephialtes wanting a uniform from Xerxes in 300.

I read this once too, can’t remember where. I think Benny & Moss wanted NL2-7SD but Doyle, Slim & Corky convinced them the fish would prefer NLHE. Ironic because if you only have an hour to give the basics to an intelligent noob they’ll have a much better chance in a WSOP event in the former than the latter imo, my experience somewhat supports that.

I don’t recall ever hearing about it being spread in California—it was aka Kansas City Lowball—but that doesn’t mean it never was obviously.

Badger v Barbara Enright, in the last known NL5CDH tournament. http://www.stevebadger.com/poker/tournam...

The email was a whole lot more than stupid. It was cruel, morally reprehensible, embarrassing and well also stupid. But I could think of a million more adjectives to add here.

A much older man sent a thinly veiled death threat and the suggestion of committing suicide to a you woman suffering extreme depression. Shortly after she killed herself.

Whether his letter had major influence on her decision to end her life we or her ex boyfriend for that matter cant know.

But to try to play this down as some innocent mistake that could have happened to the best of us is ridiculous.

Is that the worst accusation levied against Sklansky?

Sklansky’s email to Brandi is indefensible, but can we finally put this topic to bed, and let them both rest their troubled souls in peace?

https://www.rounderlife.com/pokers-candle-in-the-wind-brandi-rose-hawbaker/

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I was referring to Saura, i may have the facts wrong.

Easy mistake to make, there are just so many

Stupid huh? Everyone here who implies Mason/DS perhaps did something wrong must be an awful human being according to Mason, but someone who urges a depressed girl to kill herself is just plain "stupid". And the trophy for double standards goes too..... Mason 😃

She probably shouldnt have been playing poker. But mostly because poker led her to meet a much older man who would present himself as her mentor but, knewing her weaknesses, still told her she should take her own life.

But you just keep downplaying it, like you always do, while judging those who dont

This 100%

Promulgating nonsense? I think you and Mason should maybe look in the mirror, or perhaps speak with a trained mental health professional and ask them what they think. You're just being callously indifferent and, to be specific, you said "he had no influence..."

Everyone has influence. These are choices we make when we interact with people. Do you think David Sklansky helped or hurt her? It was probably both (for obvious, disgusting reasons), but that's the thing...You can help without hurting

I have quite a bit of experience dealing with people who struggle with mental illness and to see what you two are trying to say is incredibly saddening. You act like Sklansky, along with the many incredibly cringe, disgusting, and creepy men who pretty much only interacted with her because she was hot "had absolutely no influence" on her? Are you two out of your ****ing minds? I'm sure the terminally online, fragile ego, toxic male incels loaded up on 2+2 did absolutely nothing to kill her self esteem. Nothing at all...

You do realize that, instead of encouraging someone to kill themselves, or implying a threat of paying thugs to throw acid on her face, that, you know, maybe David and some of these other men of her past could instead choose to do no harm, leave her alone (instead of sexually harassing and assaulting her endlessly), or make an effort to be solely a positive influence in her life? It's not that ****ing hard