President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
Better a thousand innocent men locked up, than let one guilty man roam free.
speaking of pointless, here’s blahblah
I donÂ’t know if there are any right leaning people terrified of the blm riots. However, I will say the riots had a profound impact on my left run smallish city. Car traffic, foot traffic and increased empty retail and office spaces downtown are all partly due to the riots.
Do you mean that these things are happening to this day and it's partly because of the riots from 6 years ago? Or are you saying that was an historical effect? The former seems like quite a stretch, but I'm no expert on city planning or whatever.
Calling the Iran war “pointless” is saying trump, Kamala, Biden, Obama and Hillary were all wrong when they said we can’t allow Iran to have nukes, isn’t it?
If the only way to prevent Iran from having nukes is to launch an invasive war on them (killing countless innocents in the process), then yes, the aforementioned war criminals were wrong. Think about it from Iran's perspective for a second. It sure seems that having nuclear weapon capabilities is a very strong deterrent against invasion. North Korea is still around. Nobody messes with India and Pakistan too hard, except for each other. We didn't even do anything to Pakistan for hiding Osama bin Laden (I mean, other than giving them money for telling us where he was). Now look at Iraq, Libya, and other states without nuclear weapons. They got invaded in a hurry.
Iran doing whatever it can to obtain nuclear weapons is merely a part of the intelligent operation of the country. And, contrary to the propaganda, Iran is no more savage or irrationally run than the US, Pakistan, India or many other nuclear powers. Ending x lives and creating massive instability in the entire region is not worth it, morally or strategically, just to prevent them from obtaining the same deterrent that we have obtained (against the wishes of the outside world, much of which views the US as the greatest threat to world peace).
Ideally, of course, nobody would have a nuke. They are horrifying weapons of mass death. But in our actual world, any even remotely intelligent leader is doing everything they can to obtain nuclear weapons. Iran doing so is intelligent statecraft.
It's pointless when his experts say they are of no threat. Do you roll up to a prison and shoot convicts getting out of prison because you can't allow any of them to break into your home or would you wait until they're an actual threat?
Did you mean to quote my post? You didn't address my question of why did all of the top major dem politician of the past 15 years say Iran was a threat then when trump takes action now a lot of Dems are saying Iran is not a threat?
Do you mean that these things are happening to this day and it's partly because of the riots from 6 years ago? Or are you saying that was an historical effect? The former seems like quite a stretch, but I'm no expert on city planning or whatever.
Yes, businesses still don't want to move downtown because now they know that our city government is capable of sitting back (and even encouraging) violence downtown. Office space rent is significantly cheaper down town than most other suburban areas.
You mean he just cherry-picked what to comment on and ignored everything else? The nerve.
Yes, businesses still don't want to move downtown because now they know that our city government is capable of sitting back (and even encouraging) violence downtown. Office space rent is significantly cheaper down town than most other suburban areas.
What is the population of your "left run smallish city"?
Yes, businesses still don't want to move downtown because now they know that our city government is capable of sitting back (and even encouraging) violence downtown. Office space rent is significantly cheaper down town than most other suburban areas.
lol maybe your city just sucks. if you guys haven’t recovered from a riot 5 years ago idk if BLM is really to blame.
Probably DEI then.
Or immigrants.
Or jews.
Did you mean to quote my post? You didn't address my question of why did all of the top major dem politician of the past 15 years say Iran was a threat then when trump takes action now a lot of Dems are saying Iran is not a threat?
I addressed it; you're just not smart enough to understand it. There is a difference between being cautious and being reckless. Why do you think Obama got them to sign and abide by the JCPOA rather than starting an armed conflict?
This wasn't in response to me, but:
You didn't address my question of why did all of the top major dem politician of the past 15 years say Iran was a threat
because the Democratic Party is a war hawk, imperialist political party which, just like Republicans, receive huge amounts of lobbying money and other bennies from defense industries...
...because being a hypocrite is a vital part of being a quality politician, among other reasons
Israel and Bibi have had significant influence over many prominent US politicians ever since its founding, but the way Trump seems to be so totally captured by them is somewhat unique. Bibi has been trying to get us to attack Iran for decades, since before he was PM, and Trump 2 being the one to fully bend the knee seems like an escalation.
Yes, businesses still don't want to move downtown because now they know that our city government is capable of sitting back (and even encouraging) violence downtown. Office space rent is significantly cheaper down town than most other suburban areas.
I suspect these businesses aren't getting strong enough economic incentives (from their perspective) to move downtown*, and that's much more of a concern to them than fear of another riot disturbing their business. Any good capitalist will take the most money available immediately and then siphon off a smallish amount of that wealth to put in place measures to reduce the economic impact inherent to holding their business in a densely populated downtown area.
*For instance, I imagine that commercial real estate is cheaper in downtown Detroit than in whichever wealthy suburb surrounds it. I think the Detroit Pistons moved their stadium downtown for this reason.
This wasn't in response to me, but:because the Democratic Party is a war hawk, imperialist political party which, just like Republicans, receive huge amounts of lobbying money and other bennies from defense industries... ...because being a hypocrite is a vital part of being a quality politician, among other reasonsIsrael and Bibi have had significant influence over many promin
The left is changing the definition of imperialism so much that being an imperialist is actually the based and correct position.
The left is changing the definition of imperialism so much that being an imperialist is actually the based and correct position.
if you're a big fan of murdering large masses of people in the Global South, maybe
but you types never needed any excuse to support US imperialism already, so I don't get the issue
Edit: worth noting that there is a steadily increasing percentage of polled populations who think that US imperialism, at least as it relates to Israel/Palestine, is not based whatsoever. Or this highly unpopular Iran war.
if you're a big fan of murdering large masses of people in the Global South, maybebut you types never needed any excuse to support US imperialism already, so I don't get the issueEdit: worth noting that there is a steadily increasing percentage of polled populations who think that US imperialism, at least as it relates to Israel/Palestine, is not based whatsoever. Or this hig
The post I was replying to you were casting preventing an Islamic theocracy from getting nukes as imperialism. So if that’s imperialism, not all forms of imperialism must be wrong.
So this stupid ass ballroom that was supposed to be fully funded by private donations is now being asked for 400 million of taxpayer funding
And you fox news human centipedes who are all gOvErNmEnT wAsTe are down for it huh?
**** y’all. You deserve nothing and certainly not a second of legitimate discourse. I’ll spend all my energy mocking you and none of my energy debating you. I can’t be held accountable of others choose to waste their time tho
I am still a liberal in the sense that I still believe in harm reduction. thats why I support North Korea, Yemen, Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas, and Russia (strictly in its war with Ukraine and NATO). as for rebranding, I gotta say that after watching the Jewish State and the US Empire slaughter 100s of thousands and explicitly broadcast its desire to destroy an entire civilization
That would certainly be a much better approach since you're at least representing a belief and a position that isn't tied to one specific ideology than arguing for some rigid state structured form of governance which could likely end up being the same group of idiots operating an even dumber and more centralized form of stupidity.
The President made a good point. He said the Presidents who assassins target are the ones who get things done. JFK, Lincoln etc.
That would certainly be a much better approach since you're at least representing a belief and a position that isn't tied to one specific ideology than arguing for some rigid state structured form of governance which could likely end up being the same group of idiots operating an even dumber and more centralized form of stupidity.
Claiming to be anti-imperialist while supporting a country which justifies its invasions and ethnic cleansings by using old imperial maps is pretty much textbook political stupidity.
I don't care what propaganda they use to justify it, or what you claim they use, after what we have seen in Palestine, Iran, Venezuela, Iraq, libya, Syria, Yemen, it would be foolish and suicidal to let these guys fully arm a hostile ideologically driven industrialized country of 40m on your border.
Ofc, this is why the Russians are not as virtuous as the Revolutionary Shias. Iranian leaders are willing to die or accept disadvantageous ceasefires to avoid mass bloodshed. And Iran formed a military doctrine around this belief. Russia does not have such moral underpinnings.