President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
All of the other Onlyfans supporters thought his use of paint was resourceful. He can’t understand why he isn’t getting the same admiration here.
This meta is weird and tiresome. I'd appreciate if the charade were dropped so we can move on
Make him bend the knee and publicly confess.
Link?
But you should thank your Republican boys in big pharma for pushing opiates on the masses for an ingrown toenail.
Nowhere close to 80% of EMT calls in urban areas are for fentanyl overdoses. And as usual, lozen's understanding of the world is hopelessly out of date.
Fentanyl first appeared as a significant drug of abuse in a few East Coast cities, but for many years now, it has been a very significant problem in rural areas.
Same. My kids seemingly felt less afraid as 8 year olds in a major city that some adults profess to be.
Will never understand why you believe these clowns are fully grown adults.
God you are dumb, loser.
The percentage of EMS calls specifically for suspected opioid overdoses in the U.S. was approximately 2.8% in the first half of 2021. Recent national data indicates that nonfatal opioid-involved overdose EMS encounters increased to roughly 179 per 10,000 total EMS encounters as of early 2022, representing about 1.79% of total, qualified emergency calls
Oh please were did you get those numbers from some democratic lobby group. We had over 60,000 EMS dispatches in Alberta in 2023 alone . Also whenever a paramedic is dispatched a Fire truck responds as well as well as a police officer I call total bullshit on your numbers the USA had 90,000 deaths alone in 2021 which would have had a paramedic dispatched
Nowhere close to 80% of EMT calls in urban areas are for fentanyl overdoses. And as usual, lozen's understanding of the world is hopelessly out of date.
Fentanyl first appeared as a significant drug of abuse in a few East Coast cities, but for many years now, it has been a very significant problem in rural areas.
Hmm yet you do not call out jjous bullshit numbers only question the stat I posted
Oh please were did you get those numbers from some democratic lobby group. We had over 60,000 EMS dispatches in Alberta in 2023 alone . Also whenever a paramedic is dispatched a Fire truck responds as well as well as a police officer I call total bullshit on your numbers the USA had 90,000 deaths alone in 2021 which would have had a paramedic dispatched
So no link to substantiate your claims - just muh feels?
Link?
But you should thank your Republican boys in big pharma for pushing opiates on the masses for an ingrown toenail.
my 80% was a guess . My number may be high but you never question JJ BS low number. Yes and the Democrats don't bend to big pharma at all .
I don't know if jjou's percentages are correct. They may well be low. But I at least know where he got them from.
https://www.eso.com/blog/ems-data-insigh...
ESO produces an annual EMS Index and Mid-Year Update based on data from millions of de-identified 911 patient encounters. Each Index highlights key trends and interprets the data to provide best practices and key insights for EMS agencies. Opioid overdose rates have been a consistent point of interest.
The 2021 ESO EMS Index: Mid-Year Update, which features data from EMS calls from January 1 – June 30, 2021, shows an upward trend in opioid overdoses. In 2020, the rate of EMS calls involving suspected opioid overdose was 2.7% (the highest seen since creating the Index). In the first half of 2021, however, that number jumped even higher to 2.8%.
This trend illustrates the need for continued outreach and prevention efforts as well as the need for the most up-to-date training for EMS clinicians. It is important to stay up-to-date on the types of opioids that are most commonly used in communities, and how and when to administer naloxone kits. And by employing opioid response best practices like diligently tracking overdose cases and naloxone administration within communities, EMS agencies can continue contributing to the development of a more accurate picture of how opioids are affecting our communities.
Your response basically amounts to: "Sure, I pulled those numbers completely out of my ass and they have no connection to reality, but the real problem is that you all didn't fact check someone else." That's more than a little pathetic imo.
Oh please were did you get those numbers from some democratic lobby group. We had over 60,000 EMS dispatches in Alberta in 2023 alone . Also whenever a paramedic is dispatched a Fire truck responds as well as well as a police officer I call total bullshit on your numbers the USA had 90,000 deaths alone in 2021 which would have had a paramedic dispatched
Let’s test your math skills and we can see if they are as piss-poor as all of your other skills, Losern:
EMS agencies in the United States respond to more than 40 million calls for service annually. These calls are handled by over 23,000 licensed EMS agencies, which include fire-based, private, and municipal services, often treating and transporting patients during the vast majority of these encounters.Key statistics regarding EMS runs:Total Volume: Over 40 million annual calls for service, with estimates for treated and transported patients exceeding 42 million in recent reports.Call Growth: EMS call volume in the U.S. has shown a steady increase of about 4-6% annually over the past decade, driven by an aging population.Call Type Breakdown: Roughly 8-10% of calls are life-threatening.Most Common Call Types:Traumatic Injuries: 21.8%Abdominal Pain: 12.3%Respiratory Distress: 12.2%Chest Pain: 10.1%Behavioral Disorders: 7.8%
You think your "guess" of 80% of all EMS dispatches are for Fentanyl overdoses might be high?
Good instincts there, chief. Maybe tap into those earlier next time.
Might want to check out the actual stats, which aren't even hard to find.
Data from NEMESIS (National Emergency Medical Services Information System):
1. Traumatic Injury (21.4%)
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9. Poisoning/Drug Ingestion (3.5%)
And that 3.5% not only isn't specifically Fentanyl, but it isn't even specifically overdoses.
Have you guys considered that lozen feels like the numbers are high, and that’s what matters?
There's just no way that 80% of paramedic dispatches are for fentanyl overdoses...
That number is way too low. At least 95% of 911 calls are about fentanyl.
nobody is defending the literal 80% number if he meant fentanyl overdoses, obviously not. but the 1–2% counter is way further from the truth than 80% is - which is hilarious that one number which is 2.5x overstated gets insane pushback but another number which is 15x understated gets none at all
i couldn’t find clean police or emt data, but the Seattle Fire Department tracks this stuff pretty well, and roughly 30% of their calls are tied to drug use, behavioral health, or mental health crises depending on the reporting period. that’s nowhere near 80%, but it’s also nowhere near the picture being painted here that this is some fringe issue
my partner worked as an emt in her 20s and had certain regulars she’d see two or three times a week. same names. same chaos. anyone working police, fire, or ems in a major city already knows exactly who these people are, she says that there were one or two who'd call 911 and wait for them to show up and then say "hey i missed you guys so thought i'd call" - no issues, not even chaos or anything, just a homeless mental health victim who enjoys having lots of people come by to check on him - it's well known that a very small minority are using up a disproportionate amount of the system
back in december, a homeless guy in Seattle walked up behind a 75-year-old woman at a crosswalk and hit her with an object that had a nail protruding from it, permanently taking her eye. police and ems reportedly all knew who he was because he was one of their regulars. he’d already been arrested multiple times for randomly attacking people and still kept cycling back out
whatever the exact percentage is, it’s too high. and if a small number of repeat violent offenders and chronic crisis cases were actually kept off the street, not only would the public be safer, but police, fire, and ems wouldn’t be constantly backed up cleaning up the same disasters over and over
I am sad that the fentanyl panic phase is largely over. There was a delightful little genre of videos of cops supposedly instantly severely OD'ing after merely touching a container of it or having the wind blow some of it up their nose. And then when Narcan came along, multiple cops would take the bottles of it and spray it on OD'ing people as if it was mace. Cops truly are dumber than the average Golden Retriever. We love our cops.
You'd think they'd learn how to pronounce it at some point, too, but no.
If I have to hear "fentanol" one more time I swear to god
whatever the exact percentage is, it’s too high. and if a small number of repeat violent offenders and chronic crisis cases were actually kept off the street, not only would the public be safer, but police, fire, and ems wouldn’t be constantly backed up cleaning up the same disasters over and over
You know what would solve this issue AND significantly improve the well-being of your city's poor population? Giving them housing and money. I'm gonna go ahead and assume that's not what you mean by them being "kept off the street".
My idea would possibly involve a relatively microscopic amount of wealth being taken from the superrich, and as such, I'm very sorry for suggesting that we harm our most prominent robber barons.
What? Is this a thing? I never heard of it, except maybe the old being quite frightened about it.
I grew up in a city (London), so maybe it's people who come from small places?
nobody is defending the literal 80% number if he meant fentanyl overdoses, obviously not. but the 1–2% counter is way further from the truth than 80% is - which is hilarious that one number which is 2.5x overstated gets insane pushback but another number which is 15x understated gets none at alli couldn’t find clean police or emt data, but the Seattle Fire Departmen
This is a poor and mostly dishonest defense of what lozen said for at least four reasons.
First, the 2.5x/15x stuff is ridiculous in this context. Yes, the math is correct, but according to this sort of analysis, if person X said 0.01% of people fail to file their taxes, person Y said 98% of people fail to file their taxes, and the real answer is that 1% of people fail to file their taxes, then person Y-- that is, the person who claimed that the overwhelming majority of people don't file their taxes -- is closer to the truth than person X. As a matter of common parlance, does that sound correct to you?
Second, when it comes to statistics about opioid abuse, I suspect that Seattle is a poor proxy for U.S. cities as a whole.
Third, you are blatantly comparing apples and oranges. lozen's 80% figure was specific to fentanyl overdoses. Your 30% figure relates to all drug EMT calls, not just overdoses, and not just fentanyl. More egregiously, it also includes behavioral health (whatever that is) and mental health crises. You also are comparing fire department calls to EMT calls.
Fourth, your anecdotal evidence (your partner's experience working as an EMT and the story about the 75 year old homeless man) speak much more to abuse of emergency services and chronic cases than fentanyl overdoses.
There's just no way that 80% of paramedic dispatches are for fentanyl overdoses...
That number is way too low. At least 95% of 911 calls are about fentanyl.
And according to RFK Trump and Lozen measure percent differently. Under Biden and Obama 190% of EMT calls were fentanyl ODs.
