President Donald Trump

Be cool to apply this same standard to Victor.

I sorta, kinda agree with you.

But an important difference is that virtually all of SRM's posts are just profanity-laced rants. Victor is capable of producing valuable content, much of which I agree with.

Fyp

bigoted against whom? Democrat slappies? ok sure lol.

Both of these individuals are vile posters. You are correct that Victor at least provides some content but unfortunately it is all based on hate. Both of these guys have a shtick that has been tolerated for a long time. These guys are nothing more than background noise to me.

Did either of them create a new account and pretend they were someone else? Just trying to keep score, here.

i long suspected bj was an alt

there'd be some fairly well structured and nuanced discussion put forward by non rabid leftists, ones that are more difficult to dismiss out of hand, and then bj would jump in with the stupidest possible comment in support and then all the rabid leftists would then pounce upon that, he always put forward the most extreme and least substantive post on the issue and of course that would be the only one the leftists would engage with - it's classic alt account use case, where you create a foil in order to attack and destroy - this is extremely common behavior among political posters, both to manufacture support and to create easy targets, you see the mistakes happen openly on twitter and reddit where people switch accounts so quickly and easily that sometimes the switch doesn't happen on the backend despite appearing to on the frontend, so you end up seeing the same account arguing against itself in diametrically opposed styles that can't be played off as just riffing - we don't get those obvious slipups here because 2p2 doesn't have that kind of easy switch interface, but that doesn't mean it isn't happening at the same rate, we just don't get the gift of watching them embarrass themselves so visibly

ie, if i were to make an alt, i'd certainly run a vpn and dust off the shift key on my keyboard, i could even run them in different browsers at the same time, or one on my phone and other on laptop, it's pretty easy to do

And suddenly, I am posting like a completely different poster, because who would suspect that it is I, Rickroll, when I write in this style?

bj was a new account, never posted anywhere other than politics which alone is a major red flag, he only posted in specific politics channels, usually had zero allies, always taking positions not a single other person could possibly get behind and support

you could say the same about mong, while there's a ton of honesty behind him, mong is very clearly trolling quite often, he's clearly his own person, bj was never trolling

and importantly, someone who spends that much of their time rarely just leaves when banned, they almost always come back with a new iteration just like karl here - bj has not
i wasn't ever sure who was behind it, but when those simultaneously took months off at the same time, then both returned within hours of each other specifically to respond directly to each other, i was not the only one who noticed - many other posters pointed out the same "magical coincidence" in that thread as it happened

but just like gorgo is hoping everyone has a short memory with all his absolute certainties over election outcomes, to the point where he insulted the intelligence of anyone who disagreed, and how he got every single one of them wrong and later tried to quietly deny it, he's doing the same here with bj

rick: do you take the bet?

My account against yours. I have ZERO alts. NONE.

You'll type that stupid as paragraph but won't take the bet?

Coward.

and no gorgo couldn't give the slightest sht what you morons think about my "election predictions" you infant. And I've never denied it. That's just you lying. I've never once denied my predictions were wrong. They were loud, confident and wrong. It's incredible how you are not only incredibly stupid, you are also just a pathological liar.

But BJ being my alt is so laughably stupid. PLEASE take the bet you absolute coward.

You won't. You'll do EVERYTHING but take the bet. Because you're a coward.

who is bj? brian james? I think it was proven he was an alt of an older account, joe something or other.

gorg it's an assymetric bet with assymetric info

you either know i'm wrong, or you know you covered your tracks enough that an ip check couldn't prove it - the evidence is still damning, you two disapearing together and coming back together, along with his obvious alt account behavior is very damning, even if you did cover your tracks well enough to survive an ip check

you getting banned here is meaningless, you have no community, you're just a one note politard poster

for me, getting banned would be significant, i have an extensive community here, and do a lot of business on the site as well, so there are financial implications for me too

but since you continue to say how dumb i am, i'll gladly hear what odds you'll give me on an iqtest4rollz

Wasn't BJ the recycled joe6pack?

Wasn't it you that said you gave up gambling? Might've been someone else but I think it was you

It's a simple bet that you're too cowardly to take.

I know you're wrong because I have zero alts. I have used a VPN to log on to this account (my only one) while at work because my school's filter blocks gambling websites, but other than that, I've always logged in normally to this account and the mods should know the two places I log in from most of the time very easily. I have no idea where BJ logged in from, but unless he hid it it shouldn't even remotely match my info. Not mention browsers, devices, all that stuff will not match. There is no way it won't be VERY obvious to the mods that we are not the same person.

Not mention it's a *@#()$ stupid idea in the first place. BJ was infuriatingly stupid and I hated him more than I dislike you (and you're an absolutely wretched human being). The day he got banned from here was second only to when Luciom got banned.

Simple bet. Your account vs. mine. I won't do money because I know I told you I gave that up no matter the odds. No problem with betting this account, though. Run along now because I know you won't take it because you know you're wrong.

And so do I.

Honestly I don't even care about the bet, I just wanted to show that you're a coward that doesn't even believe your own bs. It's probably the best way to motivate a mod to actually bother checking.

But I give any mod full permission to check and see if BJ and my info match in any suspicious way and post here the results. The only thing that will appear suspicious is that he came back from a hiatus roughly the same time I did. Looks weird sure, but I suspect he was just lurking on and off and when I posted in the RFK thread that spurred him to start posting again. Don't really know or care.

dude, you both disappeared for a very long time and both came back on the same day, he made a post and idk the exact timeline, but a post posts later there you were, having returned as well, jumping in not to catch up on old chatter, responding to something from before or saying hi to people, that you're back

you just came back responding solely to the bj post you made you just prior

and yes, i do agree, i'm sure you covered your tracks well when you operated your alt account, so it's idiotic for me to play your stupid games

BJ is not my alt rick. It's HILARIOUS that you think that to me, but he's not. If you bet, you will lose. You had the opportunity, and you didn't take it because you're a coward and a liar. (but it was smart to get exposed rather than lose your whole account)

My god it must be difficult going through life a loser, liar, and wrong about literally everything.

But I do still enjoy being in your head as much as I am.

Back on ignore you go. Bye now 😀

sounds right

I would admit that I'd be impressed if BJ was Gorg's alt. BJ's takes in the IP and 911 thread are pretty on point with what a lot of younger right wingers think that isn't particularly aligned with how the liberals view them.

I am the only P&S mod with the ability to check.

No, Gorg and BJ are not related.

Secondarily, Gorg appears to have zero alts.

Israel too. I doubt that Gorg would ever criticize the genocidal settler colonial appendage of the White Euro Empire..

Thank you for confirming.

You think he has no criticism of Israel? Or is this one of those Motte and Baileys where “ever criticize Israel” actually means “won’t say the specific words I want him to say”