British Politics
Been on holiday for a few weeks, surprised to find no general discussion of British politics so though I'd kick one off.
Too soon bruv! 😮
Can't imagine why enthusiasm for a united Ireland is on the wane in the South (which has also has its problems with idiot racists attacking non whites).
All deliberately fuelled by the likes of Farage and Musk, naturally.
Can't imagine why enthusiasm for a united Ireland is on the wane in the South (which has also has its problems with idiot racists attacking non whites).
All deliberately fuelled by the likes of Farage and Musk, naturally.
Taking on the problems of the North has never been a popular proposition in the Republic, except as a pretence for show, and even Sinn Fein voters in the North do not mostly favour union with the Republic, presumably for the obvious financial reasons to do with the health service, benefits, pensions and so on.
That's beyond awful
I'm not going to confuse it with talking about politicians sticking the knife in. Nor with stuff like fighting to keep the NHS.
I was taking the piss, you're grand. 😉
Can't imagine why enthusiasm for a united Ireland is on the wane in the South (which has also has its problems with idiot racists attacking non whites).
All deliberately fuelled by the likes of Farage and Musk, naturally.
I'm somewhat surprised the alt right over my way didn't riot over the recent enough Alex Coughlan murder in Dublin, the way they did over the school attack a couple of years ago.
Enthusiasm for a united Ireland hasn't waned according to recent polls.
Yes, I saw that poll at the time and found it’s framing,, binding together questions about unification with EU membership, a bit odd.
Those are lies which is why the police have arrested the girl and not the immigrant couple going out to do shopping, idiot racist.
Erm, well actually...
A man has been found guilty of making sexual remarks to a group of girls aged between 12 and 14 in Dundee before grabbing and pushing one of them to the ground.
Ilia Belov, 22, claimed he confronted the girls after receiving abusive remarks and said he saw one of the girls with a knife in her waistband before the assault.
His sister Nadjedzha Belova, 20, previously admitted assaulting a 13-year-old girl by seizing and pulling her hair, dragging her to the ground, and striking her on the head to her injury during the incident.
The pair will be sentenced at Dundee Sheriff Court on 5 August.
The court heard that Belov had said "hello sexy, I'll show you a good time" to the girls while walking past them in the Lochee area of the city.
After one of the girls called him a creep, he had returned to confront the group and called his sister, who arrived shortly afterwards and assaulted one of the girls.
Guess we were wrong, although I still think only a certain type of kid carries knives and hatchets around.
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FREE LUCIOM!!!
It's a strange case where the original reporting said it was a couple out walking, not a man and his father. Quite why he called his sister isn't clear, as is why one girl was carrying an axe around.
I hope the CCTV becomes available soon.
Yeah a lot of misinformation abounded about the case, some of it seemingly from the police themselves. I do believe the alt right just jumped on it anyway out of sheer xenophobia and regardless of how things would have turned out, would still be sticking to their guns.
I'm originally from a crappy council estate and the only kids who carried weapons around my way were feral skangers/chavs who were usually causing trouble. In this case two things can be right at once- a kid carrying weapons is of dubious character but still a kid whereas this specific migrant does appear to be a would be nonce and the responsibility lies with him as an adult. Even if the kids had have initially mouthed off (which it appears they didn't), the adults should have simply walked on. Be interesting to see what sentence they get.
In fairness, I remember a news report saying she ran back in her house to get them after the trouble started. She wasn't carrying them around.
You'll need to link that report. Luciom argued she had them in a handy hiding place in the bushes and now you're claiming she ran home, got them and came back? That doesn't tie in with what was established and dissipates an argument for self defence, as she could have stayed at home once she got there and called the police, so again you'll need to link this. Again two things can be correct- she was carrying concealed weapons which she absolutely shouldn't have been doing, but didn't instigate things and the adult was a scummy nonce who did instigate things and deserves a custodial sentence. But again you need to link this as it doesn't sound likely.
You'll need to link that report. Luciom argued she had them in a handy hiding place in the bushes and now you're claiming she ran home, got them and came back? That doesn't tie in with what was established and dissipates an argument for self defence, as she could have stayed at home once she got there and called the police, so again you'll need to link this. Again two things c
I wasn't arguing she didn't do anything wrong. She probably did. Although there does seem to be a pattern in your part of the world, and to a lesser extent mine, that the legal establishment is only interested in going after wrong-doing, especially of children, when the perpetrators melanin concentration is sufficiently low.
As I said I think there was wrongdoing by both parties but ultimately the responsibility lies with the adult and instigator, which was the Bulgarian guy. I still find it unlikely that kid went home to get those weapons.
Although there does seem to be a pattern in your part of the world, and to a lesser extent mine, that the legal establishment is only interested in going after wrong-doing, especially of children, when the perpetrators melanin concentration is sufficiently low.
We don't have that over my way, plenty of non white people in Ireland have been convicted of crimes and I'd imagine the same applies to the UK overall, despite occasional high profile incidents, such as the MSM response to this and the police's priorities in the Henry Nowak murder.
Of course it does, and Kelhus is just doing his usual shtick of stirring up fake stories about white people being discriminated against.
In America there was the recent enough Austin Metcalf murder, (Metcalf was white) where the killer Karmello Anthony, a black kid was convicted after the jury deliberated a mere three hours and he's been duly sentenced to 35 years so I'm not sure how Kel's justifying his claim.
The judge had allowed them to consider lesser charges of manslaughter, which would have carried a shorter sentence of up to 20 years in prison, but they did not choose it.
Pretty obvious why that would be, in Dallas.
I dunno. His comments- touch me and see what happens-, his attempt to get rid of the weapon and witness testimony made a reasonable case for premeditation on his part, as opposed to racism and the jury had several non whites on it, so I'm not sure if racism played a part in the verdict and considering he could have gotten 99 years instead of 35, his sentence wasn't unduly harsh, especially as he can possibly get parole after serving half his sentence. The victim's father went on a racist and homophobic tirade shortly after the verdict, in an interview. To clarify the family had been harassed and swatted several times, so I can understand anger, but he certainly wasn't justified in any way with his comments.
stand your ground does not apply to black folks
white people can run around with an AR15 and claim self-defense
if black touch me and see what happens invalidates everything
clueless losers wishing to take the side of the racist ass holes hmu in another thread peace
stand your ground does not apply to black folks
white people can run around with an AR15 and claim self-defense
if black touch me and see what happens invalidates everything
apologies for american politics
Based on the witness testimony, I'm not sure if stand your ground applies.
Roderick Scott in NY was black and shot a white teen who was robbing a car and was acquitted on self defence grounds (not stand your ground), so I reckon cases get examined on their merits.
Anyway my apologies for mentioning the Anthony/Metcalf case, the thread is about British politics, so we'll leave it at that.
leaving it at that but yes i meant the concept of self defense in general idk why i said stand your ground.
