Ukraine-Russia War Take 2
Here is what the preliminary take on the Ukraine thread disappearing is:
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****ing hell.The Russian *******s decided not to wait to see if Ukraine would comply with their unilateral ceasefire and preemptively bombed cities, causing massive civilian casualties. It's as if they've decided to fulfill their murder quota for several days in advance.1-4 - Zaporizhzhia, KABs. Service station, shopping pavilion. At this point, 12 dead, 16 wounded.5-7 - Kramat
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🇷🇺 Muscovite bastards
🔴Today, the Katsap freaks demonstrated their "desire" to observe the truce by committing terrorist acts against the civilian population in various cities of Ukraine:
🟡Zaporizhzhia:
12 killed
37 injured
🟡Kramatorsk:
5 killed
12 injured
🟡Chernihiv:
17 injured
🟡Dnipropetrovsk region:
15 injured
🟡Dnipro:
3 killed
16 injured
🟡Poltava region:
5 killed
37 injured
☠️ The freaks need a truce on May 9 to hold their unfortunate "victory parade", which they are afraid to organize, because it may come in qualitatively and fairly from the country that they "destroyed long ago, destroyed all potential and are easily conquering".
❗️ But asking for this only for one day for your own benefit is cynicism, where the important thing is not a truce directly at the front, but precisely so that it does not fly over Moscow. The President of Ukraine quite rightly and cunningly announced days of silence starting tonight to demonstrate that it is not the chosen day that is important, but to show the very essence of the ceasefire, no matter how difficult it would be to stop killing the Russians who deserve it. Believe me, you f**king bastards, it is very difficult for us to do this.
🗒 Orders are already being sent to the units to prepare for a ceasefire, but it is important to clearly state that in case of violation there will be a worthy response and no one will observe this. These are the first steps that are wisely initiated to show real intentions, not demonstrative and cynical ones that only the Russians are capable of.
☠️ The freaks need a truce on May 9 to hold their unfortunate "victory parade", which they are afraid to organize, because it may come in qualitatively and fairly from the country that they "destroyed long ago, destroyed all potential and are easily conquering".
They've, um... they've scaled back this year's parade, which, surprisingly, will not feature any armoured vehicles rolling through Red Square.
This can only be because they no longer have enough armoured vehicles to spare for a parade. Which is quite funny in a grim way. I'm not sure people fully recognise how remarkable it is that Ukraine has survived this long, never mind that it has inflicted such disastrous losses on the Russian Empire.
They've, um... they've scaled back this year's parade, which, surprisingly, will not feature any armoured vehicles rolling through Red Square. This can only be because they no longer have enough armoured vehicles to spare for a parade. Which is quite funny in a grim way. I'm not sure people fully recognise how remarkable it is that Ukraine has survived this long, never mind tha
After Russia's critical failures to achieve their operational goals, the predicted slugfest (which was my guess as to what this war would become) has now gone on along the front for several years.
That is still what this is, but Russia is no longer in the driver's seat. Advances are still at a snail's pace, but now even that snail's pace is only made possible by weakening other positions greatly. They have to shift such large amounts of manpower and material to make it possible that it can exploited by Ukraine to great effect.
Ukrainian advances in weapons technology and doctrine makes Russia vulnerable, and very often unable to defend itself from the air. Its large landmass which is advantageous in a land war where the goal of their enemy is conquest, is now working against it in war against an enemy which is not after conquest, but survival.
On the geopolitical level, the Russian path to victory was to sever support for Ukraine. However, Ukraine is now not just a recipient of support, it is a key player whose support other countries want. That will be much harder to Russia to undermine. Their own aggression in foreign matters (both in war and diplomacy) is now very much working against them. Russia has positioned itself as a threat, and Kyiv has deftly managed to leverage that into being an important partner to its allies.
On the economic level, Russia is running out of economic statistics to hide and saved funds to spend. Its corruption is also an enormous backdraw here, as the corrupt do not reduce the amount of money they steal in economic downturns, meaning the effect of the downward economic spiral is greatly amplified.
Ukraine still has many challenges, both politically (economy, corruption and future political stability) and doctrinally (manpower, old doctrine holdouts), but it is very hard to see where Russia can go from here. They few options for escalation they hold (full mobilization, nuclear strikes) are dice throws at best.
Unfortunately, it does not necessarily mean the war will end soon. It is fairly clear that the Russian regime sees this war as important to their own survival, and the totalitarian regime is a reality and allows them to clamp down on opposition hard. Ukraine in the driver's seat does not not necessarily mean they have the ability to go fast.
Sweden's gift of Gripen fighter jets to Ukraine may, reportedly, include Meteor missiles, though these could also be supplied separately. Meteor, which the F-16s and Mirages already in inventory can't use, would not just allow Ukraine to shoot down Russian glide bombs, it would enable Ukraine to shoot down the Su-34s that carry the things, and to do so from beyond the enemy's engagement range.
Why now?
Lol in October 2022 Zelensky formalized a ban on negotiations directly with Vladimir Putin on October 4, 2022. He signed a decree enacting a National Security and Defense Council decision that declared talks with the current Russian leader "impossible". Later, Zelensky clarified the scope of the 2022 decree in public statements, confirming that the ban on negotiations with Vladimir Putin does not apply to him as the head of state
How does this end? Any predictions?
Ukraine drones flying over Moscow with impunity, destroying infrastructure, while Russians futilely try to shoot them down with machine gun fire.
Not the greatest optics for the Russia war machine.
Might be time for Putin to bring in Mearsheimer and Tucker for another round of spin control.
One of the biggest drone attacks they've launched on Russia.
Lots so crazy footage of it.
With Iran gone Russian revenues will drop again, and the sanctions might be re-tightened. I don't think Moscow losing restraint and going after UNESCO cathedrals is a good sign for Ukraine though.
It's crazy they haven't run out of willing men, although seeing the ads on TV for their new Lada car when the son or husband dies kind of points to the insanity and inhumanity of Russian society and makes it make a bit more sense.
In the end it's the fault of the left wing think tanks in Washington. Comfortable, disconnected, overly intellectual people who feel fearful at (fake) nuclear propaganda and back down from actually pushing Russia out of Ukraine. They don't understand anything about the world or the Russian/Ukrainian mind and will.
actually pushing Russia out of Ukraine
lol, would love to see the West try
NOT a Putin supporter^^
It would be trivial, Russian army is a joke against real powers - they can't even move forward against Ukraine despite air superiority since day 1 of the war, far larger GDP, far more men and equipment, and despite using meat grinder tactics (send your people in to die and flush out positions).
Russia is deeply corrupt, kleptocratic, their army lack modern structure and logistics (they don't even have NCOs and still have soviet command and control, hence insane fails like that giant column all the way to Kyiv that got picked off quickly and ground to a halt). Wagner could have taken Russia alone with 50K men if Putin didn't make a phone call with threats to the US who stupidly believed him.
Ukraine could have done it by themselves easily (kicking Russia out) if they'd been given just the arms promised, nothing more. But Biden is a loser, and so are the think tanks who set policy, so that was that.
It would be trivial, Russian army is a joke against real powers - they can't even move forward against Ukraine despite air superiority since day 1 of the war, far larger GDP, far more men and equipment, and despite using meat grinder tactics (send your people in to die and flush out positions). Russia is deeply corrupt, kleptocratic, their army lack modern structure and logisti
they couldnt even beat Hamas or Hezbollah. they arent gonna touch Russia Luci.
wtf does supporting Putin have to do with it? the West sending in troops or actually going to war with Russia will be a disaster for the US
regardless, it makes no sense. they can just fight til the last Ukrainian and keep making money off the weapons racket.
You responded to a comment saying Ukraine is pushing Russia out of Ukraine with "Id love to see the west try" and now you're implying Ukraine is involved in some sort of racket. Ypu're an unashamed Putinbitch.
You responded to a comment saying Ukraine is pushing Russia out of Ukraine with "Id love to see the west try" and now you're implying Ukraine is involved in some sort of racket. Ypu're an unashamed Putinbitch.
false
learn to read
In the end it's the fault of the left wing think tanks in Washington. Comfortable, disconnected, overly intellectual people who feel fearful at (fake) nuclear propaganda and back down from actually pushing Russia out of Ukraine.
he wants the West, ie the US and Europe to push Russia out.
again, I reiterate, learn to read man.
Yeah your standard response whenever you're called on your bullshit.
right bc you know I am right. all you can do is lie or call me a lol Putin lover. you love the genocidal Epstein Empire.
Definitely getting Russian vibes from Victor. Even the most well traveled of them are heavily indoctrinated. Russia is a place where they take out your soul when you're kid and replace it with state propaganda. And it never goes away.
no I am a liberal Westerner at heart. I believe in Chomskyian harm reduction. thats why ofc I support Putin over Bibi/Trump/Kamala/Bernie/AOC
Nothing wrong with that, since Russia shouldn't be in Ukraine anyway. (Like the Russians and their Nazi allies shouldn't have been in Poland in '39.)
But at present the aim is to keep them stopped as far as possible and keep wearing them down by assisting Ukraine. Only Russia is seeking direct confrontation with NATO by various provocations, and NATO isn't playing. Meanwhile Russia is running out of tanks and starting to run short of manpower and finance to sustain the senseless war they gratuitously started.