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Daniel would take the Bracelet in a heartbeat.

Daniel is gonna lose more than a million this year and walk away with no Bracelet.

A million dollars is 'chicken feed' to Daniel.

No shot. He spent 15+ years trying to buy a Vegas bracelet and finally succeed when he luck sacked the PPC a couple of years ago.

Id take under 100m but way over 10m.

This is one of the many egregious things about him. He is such a narcissist, literally never views things from other people's POV and cant see his own contradictory beliefs (because hes a narcissist). He will one day say "I love the PPC because the levels are so long which means there is a lot of skill to determine the winner" and then the next day say "This 1.5k O8 has such a bad structure, because it will last for 4 days". In reality hes saying "when its preferable to ME, the structure should be slow, when its preferable to ME, the structure should be fast". No consideration at all that all the recs who take a few shots for the summer after saving all year might like to have decent structure in their tourneys as well. Because its a waste of DNegs time, all lower level buyins should have bingo structures.

Also as mentioned, his constant criticism of rebuy tournaments while he himself is probably the player who has the most rebuys of all over the summer and takes every opportunity to get it in hoping to get a good stack - literally trying his best to buy bracelets.

Funny how he has completely forgotten how lucky he was in that tournament. IIRC he won a huge deciding pot at the final table where he was a favorite to get scooped, likely to get quartered at best and with literal 1 out (giving him the flush while counterfeiting the other guy's low at the same time) to scoop, which he hit. Instead of busting he had a commanding position after that pot.

Just a few days ago he was ranting about how "Ive been running so incredibly bad these last few years". Not that many years since he turned quads against Kenney's top boat in a 250k tournament that he went on to win either. The selective memory on display from him would make for a fascinating neurological case study.

No way his networth is 100 Million, but I'd say it's over 10 million as well. I'd estimate somewhere in the 20-35 million range, and he's freerolled for when he plays so it's life on easy street.

I also disagree that he'd take $1 million over a non-main event bracelet. The dude literally ONLY cares about 1st place and bracelets, because he likely has bonuses he gets for that and it's good for his contracts to continue. A bracelet long-term likely has more value to him than "taking $1 million" not to mention most bracelets are going to come with at least a 6-figure score if not more. When added to the value it does for his brand, he'd take the bracelet all day and twice on Sunday.

Taking away any financial incentives from sponsors, do you all really think negreanu would prefer a bracelet to cash? Will one more bracelet impact his life more than 1MM? How about 10MM then?

I think you are all over estimating negreanus networth.

If negreanu didn't win another bracelet in his life his legacy and stardom are already cemented. He's not getting better sponsors deals for one more bracelet.

Since everyone seems to disagree I might be wrong.

I think you're trying to reframe something you didn't actually say, your post stated:

There's no mention of taking away financial incentives from sponsors there, so as a reader I can only assume we are basing our response on his current situation.

While I agree with you he has less than 100MM in assets, I disagree that he'd take $1 million cash vs a non main event bracelet. When you factor in not only the money he'd win for coming in 1st, but also the value it adds to his brand and continued sponsorships (and potentially bonuses from said sponsors) there's zero chance in hell he'd give up the bracelet for the cash based on his current arrangements.

He has said time and time again he cares nothing about cashes, ICM, etc. the only thing he cares about is winning bracelets.

This was added in after I had already responded. Use code Daniel15 for another sponsor deal that puts loot in the mans pockets so Amanda can enjoy houseguest visits.

I want to say also that while negreanu is definitely trying to buy a bracelet by rebuying into multiple events and playing in a manner to run up a stack, he probably considers the EV loss doing this to be minimal.

He justifies bad early play by thinking his skill edge with a big stack will compensate. So if he fires multiple 1.5k buy ins playing poorly early he probably doesn't realize just how bad his roi actually is.

He doesn't care about ROI, all he cares about is binking bracelets. So with unlimited sponsor money to toss at events he enters as many smaller-field big buyin events as he can to try and build a big stack and give himself the best shot he can, rather than slogging through 8,000 player fields where he actually has a skill edge.

Unlimited rebuys have made it so much harder for the recreational player to realize their dream of winning an event because the cards are literally stacked against them.

He's clearly not trying to maximize his ROI but he obviously cares about ROI otherwise he would jam any two cards until he doubles in every event with unlimited rebuys. He's not doing that right? So he cares about ROI.

I'm also not a big fan of rebuy events.

Good news, bad news, and more good news.

Good News: DNegs cashed for $69,531 in WSOP Event #47: $25,000 High Roller Pot-Limit Omaha.

The bad news is Daniel bought in five times for a total of $125,000, so in actuality Daniel lost a little over $55,000 while cashing.

The more good news: Daniel can add the $69,531 onto his $33,639,618 in career WSOP Winnings.

Congratulations Daniel! You get this...

that waop commercial he's in is terrible. he's fine in it though

Watching NLH players talk about PLO hands sure is a treat. 😃

in a way, the hair plugs are kind of like a rebuy. if the current hair falls out he can just keep buying in.

Jesus those numbers are gross.

Rebuy rant:

The state of MTTs is a disgrace. I've said it before on here, but having almost every tournament be a rebuy event is awful for poker. Call me a purist or whatever, but if they want rebuys, fine. There's 100 live events, have a 500 PLO, 500 NL, 1K NL, 10K NL, 10k PLO, and 50k NL/PLO. Something like that, it satisfies all levels who want to splurge in a rebuy fest and degen it up.

But 48 ****ing rebuys is exactly what homie said up there, attempting to buy a bracelet and it gives very little chance to dudes who want to fire 1 or maybe 2 bullets. I mean ****, even the monster stack you get 8 shots at? It makes it super difficult to compete against pros who are already aggressive, but now they can really put you in some spots. It wasn't a shock to me I went deep in the 500 freezeout. If I won 850k instead of 1.3 million for winning monster stack, im plenty happy and i have a much better shot.

Also, Negreanu ain't worth close to 100M. Taxed, manager/aren't, a wife. Depending on his deal with GG (i doubt its the case but say they cover 100% of buyins), id say 15-20.

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Can't edit, but meant "taxes, manager/agent, wife. **** adds up

There is a distinction between the old rebuy tournaments and the current re-entry tournaments. Not saying 48 rebuys is reasonable or 27 or whatever. But back in the early 2000s, for those unaware, here is how these worked. Most had addon/rebuy option period and if you were at or below starting stack you could rebuy, or if you busted completely , you could double rebuy and get 2 starting stacks.
The other key distinction between the old rebuys and current re-entry is that you got new stack(s) at the SAME table you were at, not sent to a random table, so the strategy, which was not a bad one and lots of people did was to essentially jam most hands, double rebuy, rinse repeat a couple of times.

This got heaps of chips on the table you were on, the theory being that get a bunch of chips on the table through multiple rebuys and then use your "skill" to win those chips from the other players and go deep with a big stack. These were not the normal tournaments, they were specific rebuy tournaments, if you were not planning on firing multiple rebuys/add ons you should not be looking to play that tournament as a single entry only.

On another note, as many have said, they do need to curtail the re-entries a bit, and for many tournaments they now have limited them, but I also really want them to scale back when late reg ends, its kinda ridicoulous how late people can max late reg, which I know a lot of people feel the same way about.

Nothing wrong with hair plugs. We've all seen how terrible bald guys look compared to dudes with hair.

this is a very individual thing

women HATE the bald look overall so we all get it though. I don't think I could do the hair plug thing myself, rarely looks good.

as Patrick demonstrates above, anything works if you are a chad.

unfortunately for Daniel, nothing works if you are an annoying pipsqueak.

would you care if 48 people each bought in once and played like complete idiots? One guy dumping 48 buy ins in a tournament is amazing for everyone else.

A good pro buying in 2 or 3 times if needed but playing well on each bullet is a problem for recs. People buying over and over again and playing horribly isn't. Nobody buying in 8 times is playing well.