USA Goes to War Against Iran
Time for a dedicated thread to the war.
How long will it last and what will be the probable outcome?
lying about what? be specific
Credit for being clear about expectations at least. US challenging Iran to say it out loud....
Iran is either going to make a statement that is not what the US wants to hear, or they will make no statement at all. They don't seem to have a "concede" button...
I guess I missed one option.... hit another ship ......... before claiming the straight is closed.
Boots on the ground in T-minus how many days?
I guess I missed one option.... hit another ship ......... before claiming the straight is closed.
The option for the US is simple - take Kharg Island and set up one of its aircraft carriers just outside the island. If Iran fire any missiles either they will be intercepted or destroy its own infrastructure on the island - meanwhile the US now takes its share of the oil exports (say 30%) and this continues until Iran actually holds the US hand and literally walks them to collect all of their nuclear dust and enriched uranium.
The option for the US is simple - take Kharg Island and set up one of its aircraft carriers just outside the island. If Iran fire any missiles either they will be intercepted or destroy its own infrastructure on the island - meanwhile the US now takes its share of the oil exports (say 30%) and this continues until Iran actually holds the US hand and literally walks them to coll
Like your boy Trump said, "My preference has always been to take Kharg Island. My preference would be that. I don't know that America has the stomach for it."
You want to send any of your loved ones to go and get slaughtered in an attempt to reopen a strait that was wide open back in February?
The option for the US is simple - take Kharg Island and set up one of its aircraft carriers just outside the island. If Iran fire any missiles either they will be intercepted or destroy its own infrastructure on the island - meanwhile the US now takes its share of the oil exports (say 30%) and this continues until Iran actually holds the US hand and literally walks them to coll
Or maybe just stop trying to impose our will on every other country in the world.
The option for the US is simple - take Kharg Island and set up one of its aircraft carriers just outside the island. If Iran fire any missiles either they will be intercepted or destroy its own infrastructure on the island - meanwhile the US now takes its share of the oil exports (say 30%) and this continues until Iran actually holds the US hand and literally walks them to coll
drake helps yachty with laptop meme.
How do we navigate other countries imposing their will in ways that are determined to be negative for US interests?
Western Europe decided history was over for them, and they wouldn't impose their will anymore. And now no one cares what Europe thinks, Europe itself is highly stagnant and literally dying, and nothing was improved by Europe ceding the world stage to actors like China and Russia.

--Dark blue means you are literally dying out. In Europe it is actually worse than Asia. Because in Asia the populations are just contacting, but the people are the same. And they dont provide as much social welfare to seniors, so the economic costs of an inverted pyramid aren't as bad.
In Europe to maintain the social welfare state for seniors, they are bringing in lots of foreign "workers," but the demographic collapse and inverted population pyramid is so profound this is just plugging holes in the Titanic.
And on top, the foreigners aren't assimilating culturally or politically and are the only ones having kids; so if the majority of the people living in Europe in a few generations are not demographically or culturally European, is Europe even a thing anymore?
that is just racism and xenophobia
How do we navigate other countries imposing their will in ways that are determined to be negative for US interests?Western Europe decided history was over for them, and they wouldn't impose their will anymore. And now no one cares what Europe thinks, Europe itself is highly stagnant and literally dying, and nothing was improved by Europe ceding the world stage to actors like C
US interests? Like ruling the world?
Europe seems to be doing just fine.
I don't believe historically we've been a better actor than either china or russia.
I don't think that 'russia' is a problem any more. It's 100% putin. He's proven what happens when we cede too much power to the top (see good ole usa right now).
I don't really think China is a problem other than they pretty much do what we do.
We are strong enough to protect ourselves without meddling in all that crap. I'm pretty sure the world would be a much better place if we stopped doing this ****.
