Donald J. Trump (For everyone else except Victor)
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
The Executive Branch of the United States Government is 100% an asset of the Russian Government.
knowingly or unknowingly does not matter. (clue, it's knowingly)
TY for saying the obvious... this needs to be said, 1 million times a day, by everybody. It's so beyond obvious.
I'm down to start a thread to document all the ways in which Trump is clearly a Russian asset. I have tons of info on this.
Some comedy from Patton Oswalt on that scene:
This scrum of pot-bellied, sunken-chested betas trying to bully an all-black clad badass Eastern European wasteland survivor while dressed like Men’s Wearhouse mannequins is peak cinema.
You are a clown who has no idea how the real world works. Go back to playing online poker.
Zelensky doesn't even speak English well. To claim he was trying to do Neurolinguistic jousting is actually ******ed
He was struggling to convey the concept of Russia reneging on their agreements then Vance and Trump started being grade school bullies
idk what i just witnessed, but fact it was done on camera and not behind closed doors is beyond absurd - absolute clown show administration we have
and fwiw, i think zelensky did terribly there and was his greatest enemy in that situation regularly interrupting and not letting them speak and say what piece they had planned to say in front of the cameras - i didn't know much about him previously, but i lost of ton of confidence in him seeing him handle that in the absolute worst possible manner
I'm down to start a thread to document all the ways in which Trump is clearly a Russian asset. I have tons of info on this.
This was one of the most talked about topics in political forums on the internet (and the media) before it got debunked 8 years ago. If we want to know why you think trump is a Russian puppet we will look back at the archives.
zelensky did well not to reach across the table and smack JD in the head for accusing him of running "propaganda tours"
what the actual ****?
This was one of the most talked about topics in political forums on the internet (and the media) before it got debunked 8 years ago. If we want to know why you think trump is a Russian puppet we will look back at the archives.
The trump admin just prolonged the state of emergency for the USA linked to Russia illegal annexation of the donbass for one year, yesterday.
https://www.federalregister.gov/document...
otice of February 27, 2025
Continuation of the National Emergency With Respect to Ukraine
On March 6, 2014, by Executive Order 13660, the President declared a national emergency pursuant to the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701-1706) to deal with the unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States constituted by the actions and policies of persons that undermine democratic processes and institutions in Ukraine; threaten its peace, security, stability, sovereignty, and territorial integrity; and contribute to the misappropriation of its assets.
On March 16, 2014, the President issued Executive Order 13661, which expanded the scope of the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13660, and found that the actions and policies of the Government of the Russian Federation with respect to Ukraine undermine democratic processes and institutions in Ukraine; threaten its peace, security, stability, sovereignty, and territorial integrity; and contribute to the misappropriation of its assets.
On March 20, 2014, the President issued Executive Order 13662, which further expanded the scope of the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13660, as expanded in scope in Executive Order 13661, and found that the actions and policies of the Government of the Russian Federation, including its purported annexation of Crimea and its use of force in Ukraine, continue to undermine democratic processes and institutions in Ukraine; threaten its peace, security, stability, sovereignty, and territorial integrity; and contribute to the misappropriation of its assets.
On December 19, 2014, the President issued Executive Order 13685, to take additional steps to address the Russian occupation of the Crimea region of Ukraine.
On September 20, 2018, the President issued Executive Order 13849, to take additional steps to implement certain statutory sanctions with respect to the Russian Federation.
On February 21, 2022, the President issued Executive Order 14065, which further expanded the scope of the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13660, as expanded in scope in Executive Orders 13661 and 13662, and relied on for additional steps taken in Executive Orders 13685 and 13849, and found that the Russian Federation's purported recognition of the so-called Donetsk People's Republic or Luhansk People's Republic regions of Ukraine contradicts Russia's commitments under the Minsk agreements and further threatens the peace, stability, sovereignty, and territorial integrity of Ukraine, and thereby constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States.
The actions and policies addressed in these Executive Orders continue to pose an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States. For this reason, the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13660, which was expanded in scope in Executive Order 13661, Executive Order 13662, and Executive Order 14065, and under which additional steps were taken in Executive Order 13685 and Executive Order 13849, must continue in effect beyond March 6, 2025.
Therefore, in accordance with section 202(d) of the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1622(d)), I am continuing for 1 year the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13660.
This notice shall be published in the
Federal Register
and transmitted to the Congress.
THE WHITE HOUSE,
February 27, 2025.
Filed 2-27-25; 11:15 am]
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So it's objectively insane to defend the notion that trump is a "russian asset". It's grotesque, redicolous.
idk what i just witnessed, but fact it was done on camera and not behind closed doors is beyond absurd - absolute clown show administration we have
and fwiw, i think zelensky did terribly there and was his greatest enemy in that situation regularly interrupting and not letting them speak and say what piece they had planned to say in front of the cameras - i didn't know much about him previously, but i lost of ton of confidence in him seeing him handle that in the absolute worst possible manner
Agree with JD Vance your meeting with the President put on a fricking suit
idk what i just witnessed, but fact it was done on camera and not behind closed doors is beyond absurd - absolute clown show administration we have
and fwiw, i think zelensky did terribly there and was his greatest enemy in that situation regularly interrupting and not letting them speak and say what piece they had planned to say in front of the cameras - i didn't know much about him previously, but i lost of ton of confidence in him seeing him handle that in the absolute worst possible manner
Did we watch the same clip?? You're talking about the one above, right?
Zelensky was asked several questions by Vance, and HE was interrupted. And his comment about what America was going to FEEL, was clearly not good English, but his attempt to say that America will FEEL the repercussion of inaction... which America will, if it sides w/ Russia and allows them to steal Ukrainian land.
Right now, Ukraine is fighting all western democracies wars. Anyone who doesn't want Russian style dictator governments, should be siding w/ Ukraine and repudiating Russia.
This was one of the most talked about topics in political forums on the internet (and the media) before it got debunked 8 years ago. If we want to know why you think trump is a Russian puppet we will look back at the archives.
Trump is a Russian asset.
You can't debunk the truth.
You can start w/ why in July of 1987, Trump went on a tour of Russia to talk about building a hotel there, and came back and put out full page ads in the NY times and other newspapers, in Sept 1987 pushing back against America's geological positions... especially considering he had never previously shown any serious interest in politics.
Then you can just use your brain and ask.. why do you think Trump said Ukraine started the war? Or that Zelenskey is a dictator because he won't hold an election (Kremlin talking point), or that he's in general, siding w/ a dictator who has publically said he wants to break American democracy?
Then you can follow up by asking yourself.. why would Trump does these things?
✔ Tried to return seized Russian compounds (2017)—These properties were confiscated by Obama as a penalty for election interference.
✔ Repeatedly questioned NATO’s relevance.
✔ Withheld military aid from Ukraine (2019).
✔ Withdrew from key nuclear arms control agreements (2019).
✔ Pushed for Russia’s re-entry into the G7.
✔ Cast doubt on Russian election interference—even after U.S. intelligence confirmed it.
✔ Announced a withdrawal of 20,000 U.S. troops from NATO countries (2025).
✔ Proposed economic deals with Russia despite ongoing sanctions.
✔ Criticized European allies while praising Putin.
Did we watch the same clip?? You're talking about the one above, right?
Zelensky was asked several questions by Vance, and HE was interrupted. And his comment about what America was going to FEEL, was clearly not good English, but his attempt to say that America will FEEL the repercussion of inaction... which America will, if it sides w/ Russia and allows them to steal Ukrainian land.
Right now, Ukraine is fighting all western democracies wars. Anyone who doesn't want Russian style dictator gove
His comment was about what america was going to feel when it will be invaded. It was a very stupid comment. He was supposed to be deferential and subsmissive, not argumentative, he is the beggar victim of an act of violence asking for help from completle strangers, people who owe him absolutely nothing.
You would think a person whose career was made by performing live piano exhibitions where he played with his dick wouldn't be ashamed to just beg and be humble and submissive.
lol what, that's zelensky's everyday attire, kind of his persona, his mao suit if you will
if vance ridiculed him for that then he's a clown
Did we watch the same clip?? You're talking about the one above, right?
Zelensky was asked several questions by Vance, and HE was interrupted. And his comment about what America was going to FEEL, was clearly not good English, but his attempt to say that America will FEEL the repercussion of inaction... which America will, if it sides w/ Russia and allows them to steal Ukrainian land.
Right now, Ukraine is fighting all western democracies wars. Anyone who doesn't want Russian style dictator gove
you're meeting with your boss in a performance review, your boss says a bunch of unhinged nonsense to you - what is the better response, let him speak and then calmly respond and debunk the baseless accusation - or do you just keep saying "no u"
mind you, the fact that this was happening in front of the cameras made it even clearer that trump and vance set out to look tough on ukraine for the public - that was the entire purpose of this meeting - no amount of "no u" was going to be persuasive, it would only antagonize them and turn a de facto ally looking to score points domestically by dressing you down a little into an actual non ally
all he had to do was sit there and listen and then when given a chance simply respond with "we're fighting for our lives and we need your support"
absolutely terrible understanding of the situation
Characteristic of authoritarians to blow up over earnest disagreement.
Can't go another layer deep in the discussion so they explode and tell him to say thank you and wear a suit lol
Trump and Vance were ass clowns for sure, but the fact is Zelensky did a poor job of handling himself there.
lol what, that's zelensky's everyday attire, kind of his persona, his mao suit if you will
if vance ridiculed him for that then he's a clown
you're meeting with your boss in a performance review, your boss says a bunch of unhinged nonsense to you - what is the better response, let him speak and then calmly respond and debunk the baseless accusation - or do you just keep saying "no u"
mind you, the fact that this was happening in front of the cameras made it even clearer that trump and vance set out
for people who want to know what actually happened, here is the 50 min unabridged video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_YtXWVf...
Check the opening statement by Trump for example, where he says Zelensky fougtht very hard and that's the only reason they are still in it 3 years later.
Kinda disgusting after seeing that, how the narrative about this meeting is being construed
you're meeting with your boss in a performance review, your boss says a bunch of unhinged nonsense to you - what is the better response, let him speak and then calmly respond and debunk the baseless accusation - or do you just keep saying "no u"
mind you, the fact that this was happening in front of the cameras made it even clearer that trump and vance set out to look tough on ukraine for the public - that was the entire purpose of this meeting - no amount of "no u" was going to be persuasive, it
Of course it was political theater, and Zelensky could have performed better. But he was the one being interrupted, and he was trying to (albeit poorly), recapture the floor. He's done plenty of the sit back and listen and then respond tours... I'm sure the guy is growing impatient in a situation where he's taken the losses for western democracies, while they've sat back and sent money in exchange for lives.
The fact is, America should be thanking Ukraine, but in upside down land, as you can read in this thread from Trump supporters, they think Zelensky should be thanking them. It's as if nobody understands what's really going on.... ... because they don't. They are being brainwashed.... but NATO and the EU, and really, most of the rest of the world understands the gravity of the situation.
It's all political theater to make Trump / America look tough... when really we should be showing grace and full support.
he should have wore a baseball cap and tee shirt with a statement on it....like Leon
