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President Donald Trump

I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?

So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at

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28 April 2019 at 04:18 AM
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Because you were equivocating Trump's war crimes with Obama's. Is Trump apologizing and changing anything? No. Did Trump REMOVE Obama's restrictions? YES. So it's a difference. A BIG one. One you'll never bring up. Because you're a lying, disingenuous prick.

I bring up all the time that the reason liberals like yourself prefer Obama is due to optics and not actualy policy. Obama apologized? oh right, big difference! Obama put in some restrictions that possibly reduced the mass murder? wow, great improvement, now the US can continue murdering at a slightly slower pace.

heres an idea, if you actually mean this, if you actually believe it, then just stop.

Hey df, you won't get me to apologize for Obama's war crimes. Not sure what you think you're doing here. I hate all violence.

stop defending Dems. stop supporting the USA. you cant claim to "hate violence" while supporting the USA and the Dems. by any objective measure the USA is the most murderous country of the modern era.


by checkraisdraw

If you’re a global warming skeptic that’s how stats work. If you’re someone interested in making sound statistical inferences that’s not how stats work.

ok then break it down. maybe PM ecriture for help since he loves to brag about his math ability. what does that 5 month sample say about the likelihood of civilian deaths over the entire JSOC mass murder spree of Obama?


by Victor

ok then break it down. maybe PM ecriture for help since he loves to brag about his math ability. what does that 5 month sample say about the likelihood of civilian deaths over the entire JSOC mass murder spree of Obama?

was it a 5 month sample chosen at random?


by Victor

I bring up all the time that the reason liberals like yourself prefer Obama is due to optics and not actualy policy.

I'm not a liberal and what do you think I prefer Obama over? Trump? Absolutely. Almost any leftist? Absolutely not. You're an idiot.

by Victor

Obama put in some restrictions that possibly reduced the mass murder? wow, great improvement, now the US can continue murdering at a slightly slower pace.

It is a big difference, especially when TRUMP REMOVED THEM SO HE COULD DO IT AT WILL. God you're really this ****** stupid aren't you?

by Victor

heres an idea, if you actually mean this, if you actually believe it, then just stop.

Here's an idea: mind your own business, eff off, and stop lying about me.

by Victor

you cant claim to "hate violence" while supporting the USA and the Dems.

You can't be this thick. Like you actually can't. I don't support ANY VIOLENCE BY THE USA OR ANYONE ELSE YOU UNIMAGINABLE LYING PRICK.

by Victor

by any objective measure the USA is the most murderous country of the modern era.

I AGREE DISHPIT


Here's an idea: mind your own business, eff off, and stop lying about me.

brother, you started this whole thing by responding to a post that had nothing to do with you for the purpose of, I guess, NOT defending Obama lol.

I'm not a liberal and what do you think I prefer Obama over? Trump? Absolutely.

right, bc Obama is better at doing murder than Trump. he apologizes and puts in bullshit "restrictions" so you can feel better about the mass murder and spend your time attacking Trumpers.


by Victor

brother, you started this whole thing by responding to a post that had nothing to do with you for the purpose of, I guess, NOT defending Obama lol.

Correct. I responded to someone THAT WASN'T YOU because you aren't worth talking to. And yes, I made it EXPLICIT IN MY POST that I wasn't defending him. Like I even highlighted it and zoomed in on it so dfs like you might have a hope of getting it. It didn't help.

by Victor

right, bc Obama is better at doing murder than Trump. he apologizes and puts in bullshit "restrictions" so you can feel better about the mass murder and spend your time attacking Trumpers.

Obama is better at a million things than Trump. You're a df if you don't think that matters. But, as is obvious by now, you are a df. So that tracks.

Also, you've never supported your claim that the restrictions were bullshit. I wonder why.

But don't bother doing it for me. I'm not responding to anymore of your dfery. You are explicitly a waste of time.


Obama is better at a million things than Trump.

I agree that he is much better at managing a murderous empire than Trump.

Also, you've never supported your claim that the restrictions were bullshit. I wonder why.

its weird that you think it only lies when Trump is in charge.


by Gorgonian

And he implemented restrictions on those types of strikes THAT DONALD TRUMP REMOVED.That's the important part you disingenuous fhead. But sure enough you and victor fall all over yourselves to miss the point.

Is its easy to remove the restrictions once your caught and leaving office

And did he have senate approval for all these killings? Do you think he should have been impeached for his actions?

All those poor poor fisherman in their $200,000 boats that trump has murdered


Yes, I think war crimes are worthy of impeachment.


by Gorgonian

The question I asked, you disingenuous, lying prick."Which liberals are you referring to you disingenuous lying prick?"Your post was pretty stupid because it demonstrated nothing at all about anything. You didn't show the restrictions were ineffective, because you don't even know what they were or when they were put in place. You ASKED.

...for fun and profit!!


Well, thst took a long time for them to come up with a big "duh" judgement.


I think Obama was much better for domestic policy, including acts that gave me health insurance.

Victor thinks that differences in domestic policy don't matter. Even things like the Trump administration cutting off SNAP payments. He thinks that, because US foreign policy is so evil, innocent children deserve starvation.


by lozen

Is its easy to remove the restrictions once your caught and leaving office

And did he have senate approval for all these killings? Do you think he should have been impeached for his actions?

All those poor poor fisherman in their $200,000 boats that trump has murdered

It's okay to murder people if they are onboard an (allegedly) expensive boat?


by Trolly McTrollson

It's okay to murder people if they are onboard an (allegedly) expensive boat?

They have been deemed terrorists. Do I agree with that strategy ? Nope
You do realize Biden endorsed this policy in 1989


by lozen

They have been deemed terrorists. Do I agree with that strategy ? Nope
You do realize Biden endorsed this policy in 1989

Just because Trump abused it and mis-labeled these people doesn't make Biden culpable for bad policy. But you already know that.


you can argue all you want about the legality or even morality of drone striking drug runners or if they are even drug runners or just high net worth people taking a leisurely boat ride

there are no right answers and a lot nuance involved in that conversation

however, it's just peak herp a derp derangement for people to still insist that extremely expensive and horrendous fuel economy cigarette boats that are built purely for speed and nothing else are being used by commercial fishing

there's just zero possibility any fisherman could ever turn a profit operating on one of those boats from the fuel economy alone, nevermind the fact that they cost hundreds of thousands and it doesn't make any sense to use that as a work boat and they'd need to be heavily retrofitted

this is like arguing that the next time you see a lambo it's probably just a fedex guy delivering some packages


by Gorgonian

Yes, I think war crimes are worthy of impeachment.

They keep trotting out John Yoo to say how bad these strikes are. Which is pretty crazy.


by rickroll

you can argue all you want about the legality or even morality of drone striking drug runners or if they are even drug runners or just high net worth people taking a leisurely boat ridethere are no right answers and a lot nuance involved in that conversationhowever, it's just peak herp a derp derangement for people to still insist that extremely expensive and horrendous fuel ec

Bombing these boats is highly questionable from a legal, moral, and policy perspective, but not because most (if any) of the targets have actually been fishing boats. I haven't been following the talking heads on this issue, but if they are suggesting that a lot of the targets were fisherman, I agree that is silly.


I mean, the 3 tonnes of coke could have been for personal use.


by rickroll

you can argue all you want about the legality or even morality of drone striking drug runners or if they are even drug runners or just high net worth people taking a leisurely boat ridethere are no right answers and a lot nuance involved in that conversationhowever, it's just peak herp a derp derangement for people to still insist that extremely expensive and horrendous fuel ec

You like to focus on the least important part of the Trump controversies, don’t you?


Dont forget these murders have saved 2 billion american lives


by Rococo

Bombing these boats is highly questionable from a legal, moral, and policy perspective, but not because most (if any) of the targets have actually been fishing boats. I haven't been following the talking heads on this issue, but if they are suggesting that a lot of the targets were fisherman, I agree that is silly.

it's been a pretty common response online that the evil orange man is drone striking working class fisherman just trying to get by

including mass media such as the new york times

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/13/world...



yet they didn't put two and two together and realize that of their photo of actual fishermen... they didn't find a single 400k cigarette boat... weird

it's just disgusting and prevents any serious conversation on this when the biggest critics refuse to accept reality and insists on pretending they are fishermen because it plays for better optics


by checkraisdraw

You like to focus on the least important part of the Trump controversies, don’t you?

how can you have a genuine debate on abortion if one side insists that the fetuses are simply relocated to a farm upstate where they'll have a better quality of life?


whats the serious conversation to have? like, your entire premise is that any fast moving or expensive boat in the Caribbean is probably a drug dealer and we need to discuss if they can be brutally murdered?


by rickroll

it's been a pretty common response online that the evil orange man is drone striking working class fisherman just trying to get byincluding mass media such as the new york timeshttps://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/13/world... yet they didn't put two and two together and realize that of their photo of actual fishermen... they di

What you wrote is a pretty big mischaracterization of what that NYT article actually said.

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