President Donald Trump
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So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
of course it was. JFC Helen Keller would have seen through that.
Gotta disagree. Trump is such a narcissist, there's no way he'd risk accidentally getting shot in a fake assassination attempt. Crook had also apparently been sussing out other potential targets apart from Trump, democrats too. I think he just wanted notoriety. I think it was genuine and Trump opportunistically capitalised on it.
no, that was fake blood, and a fake setup photo op.
The guy that died was quite a way from Trump, and not behind him relative to the shooter, but some distance to the left of Trump, relative to the shooter. The shooter was positioned to the right of trump, not in front of him.
The blood was on the undamaged ear and smeared on trump's face. No blood behind the ear. Think about how a bullet flies and what you'd expect to see if an ear was really hit.
So Crooks and the bystander sacrificed themselves? C'mon mate that sounds a bit implausible in fairness.
I'm pretty sure the bystanders didn't all volunteer to be randomly shot. Why would anyone tell them anything lol.
Undercover is different and understandable, it's not the same thing as ICE agents doing it.
I might have been too subtle, but that was my point.
I'm pretty sure the bystanders didn't all volunteer to be randomly shot. Why would anyone tell them anything lol.
But again did Crooks willingly agree to sacrifice his own life to make Trump look good? That's what I find very implausible. Usually the simplest explanation is the most likely one, is all. Simplest explanation is that Crooks was a disturbed young man and was willing to assassinate potentially several high profile people, Trump just happened to be the one he decided on.
Okay but again that would be at least justified. I don't see the justification for ICE doing this. Seems to be a desire to intimidate combined with a kind of cowardice wrt being identified and facing responsibility for their actions, but mainly to intimidate.
no, that was fake blood, and a fake setup photo op. The guy that died was quite a way from Trump, and not behind him relative to the shooter, but some distance to the left of Trump, relative to the shooter. The shooter was positioned to the right of trump, not in front of him.The blood was on the undamaged ear and smeared on trump's face. No blood behind the ear. Think abou
There's a 1988 miniseries, Favorite Son (starring Harry Hamlin and Linda Kozlowski) with an eerily similar premise. A presidential hopeful narrowly survives an assassination attempt-- by a sniper, at a rally -- and gets up apparently bleeding and makes a stirring we-will-not-give-in speech, carried on TV, and everyone thinks he's brave and great.
And, spoiler alert, it's all a set-up to improve the sneaky senator's chances, and the bloke next to him really got killed. But that is the kind of thing that happens more often in fiction than in reality. Awkward cranks like Crooks, or Lee Oswald, do not make reliable, predictable and obedient pawns. They do their own thing.
The really strange thing about it is, considering how much boasting about completely made up things Trump does, that he hasn’t been bloviating about it repeatedly ever since at every available opportunity.
Almost as if it served its purpose of getting him elected.
The really strange thing about it is, considering how much boasting about completely made up things Trump does, that he hasn’t been bloviating about it repeatedly ever since at every available opportunity.
Almost as if it served its purpose of getting him elected.
Have always found this odd. You’d think it would be one of the things he’s constantly ranting about, but it’s virtually never mentioned at all.
Also doesn't boast about his Wolverine-like ability to heal, given his ear looks exactly the same, and "White House physician Rep. Ronny Jackson (R-Texas) reported that Donald Trump sustained a 2-centimeter-wide wound to his right ear from a gunshot"
But again did Crooks willingly agree to sacrifice his own life to make Trump look good? That's what I find very implausible. Usually the simplest explanation is the most likely one, is all. Simplest explanation is that Crooks was a disturbed young man and was willing to assassinate potentially several high profile people, Trump just happened to be the one he decided on.
Patsy.
Go watch a video of it and look at the blood on Trump. His ear and cheek, but nothing behind his ear. And tell me if you think that's plausibly a real injury you'd get from a bullet, or fake blood.
Try watching some WWE matches where they have used fake blood, see if what Trump has looks the same.
The really strange thing about it is, considering how much boasting about completely made up things Trump does, that he hasn’t been bloviating about it repeatedly ever since at every available opportunity.
Almost as if it served its purpose of getting him elected.
Funnily enough as soon as my missus saw Trump shouting "Fight" with a clenched fist, she immediately said "well, that's just won him the election, he's definitely going to be the next Prez over this".
Patsy.
Go watch a video of it and look at the blood on Trump. His ear and cheek, but nothing behind his ear. And tell me if you think that's plausibly a real injury you'd get from a bullet, or fake blood.
Try watching some WWE matches where they have used fake blood, see if what Trump has looks the same.
The bullet missed him by millimetres- again Trump is too much of a narcissist to risk his ass like that.
And what do you mean by patsy? Are you saying Crooks was innocent?
Patsy.
Go watch a video of it and look at the blood on Trump. His ear and cheek, but nothing behind his ear. And tell me if you think that's plausibly a real injury you'd get from a bullet, or fake blood.
Try watching some WWE matches where they have used fake blood, see if what Trump has looks the same.
I have a hard time believing he could follow such a choregraphie and that even anyone would trust him not to fk this up.
This also not go well with your whole '' old man is cooked and far gone" posts of last few months.
My money is on incredible luck and perfectly aligned stars.
The bullet missed him by millimetres
And what do you mean by patsy? Are you saying Crooks was innocent?
If it missed him, why the "blood"? Again, please explain the uninjured ear in this?
Patsy..You tell him it's not meant to hit Trump - you can even tell him he has blanks - and he has a fast ride out of there for a million bucks or whatever, but he's actually set up to die so no interrogation messiness coming out.
If you're not sure of him, he has blanks, a real sniper does the shooting into the crowd. Team 'investigating' swaps over Crooks' gun with whatever they need to.
And come on, no bodyguard team worth their salt would ever let him stand there and fist pump. That's clearly ridiculous. You can even hear them chatting in the huddle to figure out when he's ready to do it.
This also not go well with your whole '' old man is cooked and far gone" posts of last few months.
This was well before his current state of mental decay and incontinence.
Have always found this odd. You’d think it would be one of the things he’s constantly ranting about, but it’s virtually never mentioned at all.
Maybe it scared him and he's afraid to, mention it again, maybe he's superstitious considering it was one of two attempts on him. He never mentions the attempt by Routh either. Speaking of which he was sentenced to life, unsurprisingly. (plus seven years)
It grazed him. His ear simply healed due to it being a mere graze.
Patsy..You tell him it's not meant to hit Trump - you can even tell him he has blanks - and he has a fast ride out of there for a million bucks or whatever, but he's actually set up to die so no interrogation messiness coming out.
If you're not sure of him, he has blanks, a real sniper does the shooting into the crowd. Team 'investigating' swaps over Crooks' gun with whatever they need to.
And come on, no bodyguard team worth their salt would ever let him stand there and fist pump. That's clearly ridiculous. You can even hear them chatting in the huddle to figure out when he's ready to do it.
That just sounds too convoluted and requires many assumptions/variables. I'm going with Occam's razor on this one. Crooks was a nut and got taken down.
I'm going to bootlick and say the idea that trump & co are competent enough to have faked this is highly implausible
I can't believe anyone actually believes it's a real attempt apart from the bootlickers.
Are you suggesting I'm a Trump bootlicker? I'm not a fan of his, nor am I American so don't ultimately have a dog in the fight as I don't have to live under his admin anyway, thank god. I'm just saying it seems more likely based on the available evidence that the attempt was real, rather than your Parallax View style conspiracy, sorry.
I think faking an assassination where multiple people died is right in line with what this administration has shown its more than willing to do to acquire or retain power
Its also impossible to trust the administration about anything
Okay, I guess I can understand you thinking that way, but with all due respect, I'm not buying it. Cheers.
If it missed him, why the "blood"? Again, please explain the uninjured ear in this?Patsy..You tell him it's not meant to hit Trump - you can even tell him he has blanks - and he has a fast ride out of there for a million bucks or whatever, but he's actually set up to die so no interrogation messiness coming out.If you're not sure of him, he has blanks, a real sniper does the sh
Must be easier just to equip the patsy with an AR-15 with fukked up sights. and say go get him for us, boy.
Are you suggesting I'm a Trump bootlicker? I'm not a fan of his, nor am I American so don't ultimately have a dog in the fight as I don't have to live under his admin anyway, thank god. I'm just saying it seems more likely based on the available evidence that the attempt was real, rather than your Parallax View style conspiracy, sorry.
No, I'm saying i'm surprised you don't see it as an obvious fake. If I thought you were a bootlicker, I wouldn't be surprised.
So the opposite.
Let's go bowling sometime!
Okay, I guess I can understand you thinking that way, but with all due respect, I'm not buying it. Cheers.
Its a spectrum. I'm not 100% convinced it was faked
Its like 25% legit, 25% faked, and 50% who knows
