President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
You are treating these things as entirely distinct. They overlap quite a bit imo, especially when it comes to language usage.
The overlap is minimal
Two things. First, some notions of morality are baked into our laws, and appropriately so. Things like the women's suffrage movement in the early 20th century and the civil rights movement in the 1960s were forms of morality policing, but not the sort of morality policing that seems wrong.
Second, at the 100,000 foot level, I think the motivations for what we often think of as silly, edge case morality policing are the same on the right and the left. It's a reflection of a desire to feel superior to the "other."
I use the term "movement" very purposefully. This is not really about about personal preference as much as it is about aggregates and net outcomes. Most of us can be part of this, even though we do not think of ourselves in this way. Perhaps in some instances a few individuals can be so instrumental in their influence that we could talk about them as singular cases.
This is not about personal preferences.
and the liberal/left 'movement' that support moral policing tends to hate PC because they confuse it with it meaning them being polite to those they consider moral scum
I disagree. Criticizing people for not using language in a way that meets current standards of political correctness very often is a form of moral policing.
Blaming the rise of trump on overly PC is definitely rewriting history to make things make sense
As Roco said, this isn’t a new phenomena. The tea party existed before trump, people called obummer a Muslim as a pejorative during presidential town halls before trump
2016 was a collision of the most ill-timed **** in history
1. The lolDNC would not be denied running HRC
2. 10 republicans candidates correctly assumed if they won their primary they’d boatrace the presidency and refused to leave no matter how much they cannibalized each other
3. The lolDNC propped up trump, the only candidate too insane to be a prohibitive favorite in the general
4. Trump kept winning primaries with pluralities before he became too big to fail
5. Comey, 50k votes, etc etc etc
Republicans take the senate. Conservatives establish a generational super majority in the judiciary. The republicans assumed during his first term trump could be their useful idiot since he was clearly a cult of personality that would never lose a single vote of the bottom feeders who control primaries, gave him a cabinet of ppl they approved of who weren’t blind yes men and assumed (correctly) trump was too lazy to care
Covid happens, 1/6 happens, McConnell being the single biggest coward in American history walking back conviction happens. And now here we are
If you want to try to paint this farce as PC run amuck, by all means, the reality is powerful people on both sides tried to walk a tightrope and they all fell off
I disagree. Criticizing people for not using language in a way that meets current standards of political correctness very often is a form of moral policing.
Depends what you mean by criticizing.
I criticize the misunderstandings such as mistaking 'offense' with 'harm when it come to being PC.
I don't morally criticize people who disagree with being PC. I'll even drink beer with them, treat them fairly and let them on the BBC even though I disagree with them. It's this moral policing that is the big mistake.
If we presume that the advice is given in a professional manner and with sufficient acknowledgement that nutritional science is hardly perfect, then a doctor that offers you a opinion diet is simply a medical professional speaking from available evidence. If he was arguing that legumes are the devil's food and that people who enjoy beans are destined to go to hell, then he is j
I agree with this. When done properly, the proclamation of the Gospel of Jesus Christ is love speech: I love you enough to share with you how you can spend an eternity in Heaven instead of an eternity in Hell.
The atheist (agnostic?) magician Penn Gillette (of Penn and Teller fame) once asked in a video he posted on youtoob (paraphrasing): 'If you truly believed that people who reject Jesus are going to Hell, how much would you have to literally HATE somebody to NOT share the gospel with them?' (He made this comment on yootoob shortly after a fan gave him a New Testament after one of his gigs.)
Two things. First, some notions of morality are baked into our laws, and appropriately so. Things like the women's suffrage movement in the early 20th century and the civil rights movement in the 1960s were forms of morality policing, but not the sort of morality policing that seems wrong.Second, at the 100,000 foot level, I think the motivations for what we often think of as
Certainly, and you can make similar cases for what used to be (with emphasis on the past tense) traditional conservative mainstays like pointing to the importance of civic duty or respect for institutions. And in that we can even see how these things will inevitably clash because traditions are not always fair and institutions are not perfect.
This is an extremely difficult issue to pin down in just a few lines of forum posting, but personally I don't think the answer is to curb expression. Honestly, I think the one of the reasons progressivism started sliding in popularity among young people is simply that expression rooted in progressivism became predictable and self-censored to the point of boredom.
On the political side of things this seemed (and to some extent still seems) to go hand in hand with a focus on what people were doing instead of how they were doing.
I agree with this. When done properly, the proclamation of the Gospel of Jesus Christ is love speech: I love you enough to share with you how you can spend an eternity in Heaven instead of an eternity in Hell.The atheist (agnostic?) magician Penn Gillette (of Penn and Teller fame) once asked in a video he posted on youtoob (paraphrasing): 'If you truly believed that people
This whole love speech of yours is pretty bizarre when one considers that you voted three times for a dude to hold the most powerful position in the world who is the polar opposite of Jesus' teachings.
"Hey, I don't care if he tried to overthrow an election, is going to starve a country [Cuba], and sends brown people in America to concentration camps because I shared the Gospel of Jesus Christ to a homeless person."
sends brown people in America to concentration camps because I shared the Gospel of Jesus Christ to a homeless person."
The Amplified Socialist Regime will in fact send to the camps those who share propaganda with the needy instead of resources.
The Amplified Socialist Regime will in fact send to the camps those who share propaganda with the needy instead of resources.
INB4 lag says preaching to a homeless person is sharing the most important resources with them.
I disagree. Criticizing people for not using language in a way that meets current standards of political correctness very often is a form of moral policing.
I think the one of the reasons progressivism started sliding in popularity among young people is simply that expression rooted in progressivism became predictable and self-censored to the point of boredom.
On the political side of things this seemed (and to some extent still seems) to go hand in hand with a focus on what people were doing instead of how they were doing.
it's the substitution of PC for morality than caved in progressivism in the youth (virtue signaling)
PC exists to maximize inclusion, of the sensitive listener but also within the intentional speaker, and it turned into an ostracizer
that said, for adult voters I cannot accept "PC" as a legitimate basis for candidate supports
Trump being free to say "Merry Christmas" or whatever bullshit did not impact anyone else's freedom to do, it merely covered his history of rape, fraud, and abuse
it was PC landing on the right, not acting upon it, that brought us here.
"being nice to each other" should not be a politically divergent policy choice
PC police seem to have passed the message while missing the meaning
PC landing on the right
reminds me of postmodernism landing on the right, in the form of "feelings over facts"
it's all so Frankensteinian
The atheist (agnostic?) magician Penn Gillette (of Penn and Teller fame) once asked in a video he posted on youtoob (paraphrasing): 'If you truly believed that people who reject Jesus are going to Hell, how much would you have to literally HATE somebody to NOT share the gospel with them?' (He made this comment on yootoob shortly after a fan gave him a New Testament after one
Of course in that very New Testament Jesus, Mathew, Mark, Luke, John and Paul never clearly state this and early saints contradicted it in their writings.
Solar power is the cheapest form of electricity to set up in most parts of the world.
Tariffs are paid by U.S. importers, who pass along the costs to consumers.
And noncitizen voting is extraordinarily rare.
These three statements are facts.
Recent polls, however, show that substantial numbers of Republican voters simply don’t believe these statements.
Solar power is the cheapest form of electricity to set up in most parts of the world.
Tariffs are paid by U.S. importers, who pass along the costs to consumers.
And noncitizen voting is extraordinarily rare.
These three statements are facts.
Recent polls, however, show that substantial numbers of Republican voters simply don’t believe these statements.
Oh look, more proof of my point.
The full effect of tariffs are shared by more than just US consumers. It does cause us to import less than we otherwise would so that burden is also placed on countries and companies (and their employees, shareholders and customers) trying to export to the US as well as the shareholders and employees of companies who are importing the products being tariffed.
In saying that, tariffs are very similar to corporate taxes and I believe we should make tariffs and corporate taxes 0%.
Still defending tariffs I see. You orange pedophile fans are sad.
US to keep tariffs on USMCA countries, issues with Canada 'significant', Greer says
Can't bully Iran so time to set your focus on Canada again. Does this admin just recycle the same 4 or 5 ideas every few months? In September it's time to tariff Europe again, maybe Greenland again in December? Back to Canada in 2027?
Still defending tariffs I see. You orange pedophile fans are sad.
Can't bully Iran so time to set your focus on Canada again. Does this admin just recycle the same 4 or 5 ideas every few months? In September it's time to tariff Europe again, maybe Greenland again in December? Back to Canada in 2027?
Canada just announced negotiations with Saab so this may be the first step to Canada spending all that defense money not with the Americans but other partner countries
The full effect of tariffs are shared by more than just US consumers. It does cause us to import less than we otherwise would so that burden is also placed on countries and companies (and their employees, shareholders and customers) trying to export to the US as well as the shareholders and employees of companies who are importing the products being tariffed. In saying that, ta
Did you read my post? What part of me saying I don't think we should have tariffs (last sentence in my post) sounds like me supporting tariffs?
Explaining who all is hurt by tariffs (my 1st paragraph) seems like a shitty way to defend tariffs if that is what you think I am doing.
I strongly dislike tariffs - almost as much as I dislike corporate taxes, in part because they both are bad for economic growth. However, suggesting tariffs only negatively effect US consumers is just beyond silly. How could they not hurt the employee of a company selling **** to the US that gets a tariff?
Trump has still refused to concede that he lost the 2020 election. He did. He won in 2016 and 2024, and he lost in 2020. But he's so incredibly ****ed up, he can't admit that FACT.
That data point alone should set off alarm bells in the minds of any voter, and disqualify him from getting a single vote.
Claiming the vote is rigged cuts at the fundamental legitimacy of the government. If the vote is rigged, nothing matters. All rules are out the window.
It's such a dangerous and damaging lie that NO ONE WITH ANY BRAINS SHOULD ABIDE, because otherwise you end up with a January 6th type event.
But America is full of idiots and *******s. There is not a single Trump voter who isn't one or the other, if not both.
If you voted Trump in '24, **** off. You're garbage, and part of the problem.
