President Donald Trump

President Donald Trump

I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?

So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at

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28 April 2019 at 04:18 AM
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by Gorgonian

Oh the response is simple. Happiness can be quantified and it's trivial to prove. If one room has 8 happy people and 2 sad people in it, and another room has 2 happy people and 8 sad people in it, is one room happier than the other?

Alright, your turn.

Without specifying how happy or sad they are it’s impossible to say.

I think 8 barely happy people and 2 people being tortured for eternity is a worse situation than 8 barely sad people with 2 people living the most amazing, virtuous, fulfilling lives.


by geezerchess

Anyone who thinks you a commie is several fries short of a Happy Meal(TM).

He likes double cheeseburgers. Lots of 'em.


by Land O Lakes

He likes double cheeseburgers. Lots of 'em.

#metoo


by checkraisdraw

Without specifying how happy or sad they are it’s impossible to say.

I think 8 barely happy people and 2 people being tortured for eternity is a worse situation than 8 barely sad people with 2 people living the most amazing, virtuous, fulfilling lives.

I wonder what the Happiness Index would have been for Germany around the late '30s and early '40s? Probably steadily increased with every Jew incinerated.


Yes, it's Toothsayer.

This should be fun. Lots of poorly constructed trolling about how bestiality is the new homosexuality and will be socially acceptable in the near future.


by geezerchess

I wonder what the Happiness Index would have been for Germany around the late '30s and early '40s? Probably steadily increased with every Jew incinerated.

To be fair to the utilitarians, I think they would say that we should be comparing moral acts against the best possible moral act. In the case of genocide, the two actions you are comparing are continued torture, or an immediate death. Overall, it makes sense that on paper the immediate death looks better than the torture.

But then you have to compare both to not torturing and not doing genocide, so it becomes clear that both are bad acts relative to other bad acts. It’s the same as saying murder is better than rape and murder. Given the choice of two horrible options, the utilitarian should select the least bad of the two. It’s what makes utility calculus a good way of distinguishing between two less preferred options.


by jalfrezi

Yes, it's Toothsayer.

I didn't remember Toothsayer's style as well because he hasn't posted in P&S in a long time and I didn't read BFI regularly. But I just did a few searches and Toothsayer also claimed to have lived all over Eastern Europe and also liked to make long posts with dashed lists. Seems like a good guess. I don't know why he would wake up after years away and decide to start posting here, but stranger things have happened.


Didn't that guy post on this forum when the dinosaurs still roamed the Earth? So, he was MAGA before MAGA even existed?


by Gorgonian

Oh the response is simple. Happiness can be quantified and it's trivial to prove. If one room has 8 happy people and 2 sad people in it, and another room has 2 happy people and 8 sad people in it, is one room happier than the other?

Alright, your turn.

You just described a qualitative difference, not a quantitative one.


I doubt it's toothsayer. whoever it is hasn't even accused people like me of being the reason for millions of deaths


by d2_e4

Didn't that guy post on this forum when the dinosaurs still roamed the Earth? So, he was MAGA before MAGA even existed?

I think he mentioned he had a pet MAGAsaurus as a kid.


by checkraisdraw

Without specifying how happy or sad they are it’s impossible to say.

I think 8 barely happy people and 2 people being tortured for eternity is a worse situation than 8 barely sad people with 2 people living the most amazing, virtuous, fulfilling lives.

I would say that's why the surveys they used weren't binary choices.


by Rococo

I didn't remember Toothsayer's style as well because he hasn't posted in P&S in a long time and I didn't read BFI regularly.

Lucky you



by campfirewest

Never heard of this guy so I looked him up, he was quite the peach. Too bad he never had a Twitter account, he would be a darling of the manosphere for sure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Evo...

He seems to have written his most sexist stuff, about how women need whipping and raping, after he was paralysed from the waist down by an artillery shell in 1945 and couldn't get out of the house, which kind of speaks for itself in terms of compensatory fantasy.


A sort of real life mongidig.


by 57 On Red

which kind of speaks for itself in terms of compensatory fantasy.

I have definitely discovered this to be a real thing around here.



Everything this moron touches turns to ****.

Some blue material at the bottom of the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool is peeling off, days after the pool was painted blue and refilled as part of a multi-million dollar renovation ordered by President Donald Trump.


Honestly, this df waltzes us into a stupid, useless war, runs us out of oil as a result, then has to surrender months later because of his own stupidity and hubris, and no one is calling for him to be removed from office. I can't be bothered to care about the fing reflecting pool.

But yes, it's quite indicative, isn't it?


by Gorgonian

this df waltzes us into a stupid, useless war, runs us out of oil as a result, then has to surrender months later because of his own stupidity and hubris

yeah, might go down as the goat president tbh. accidentally of course, but i'll take it


Trump enacted a tariff policy that totally failed.

Trump pardoned all the Jan 6ers and then has a scheme to pardon people who paid him.

Trump covers up the Epstein files, tries to force Republicans not to vote to release the files(which he's in) and has Ghislaine Maxwell placed in a cushy minimum security prison.

Trump and his family are involved tons of schemes that uses his office to enrich themselves.

Trump posts a pic of the Obama's heads on apes.

Trump totally embarrasses himself losing a war to Iran after ripping(and terminating) Obama's deal with Iran.

I didn't bother to mention ICE, DOGE or RFK bringing back previously vaccine-preventable diseases.

I wonder what the second half of his term will be like?


by Gorgonian

Honestly, this df waltzes us into a stupid, useless war, runs us out of oil as a result, then has to surrender months later because of his own stupidity and hubris, and no one is calling for him to be removed from office. I can't be bothered to care about the fing reflecting pool.

But yes, it's quite indicative, isn't it?

There is certainly something poetic about "draining the swamp" and "fixing government inefficiency", and then botching the restoration of a pool and seeing it re-infested with algae.

No, these things might not be the most important and do not involve matters that move nations or affect millions of people directly. However, it is clear that things such Sharpiegate, the ballroom and this pool are matters that Trump sees as important, yet they all reveal the same pattern of misjudgment, bragging, lies and coverups.

Because these are not monumental matters, they actually do a better job of revealing him to be the embarrassment that he is.

Politically, it is also much harder to defend him on these issues. You can't just handwave someone off as a "leftie" or "libtard" because they think that when a president makes an issue front and center, then a pool should be fixed, the white house shouldn't be a mishandled construction site and weathermaps should not be altered by sharpie to show the wrong direction of a hurricane. Or you can, but it will make that person look like an idiot.

While they might not admit it, some of his supporters will look at these issues and start to ponder that he might just be a loud-mouthed fool.


by tame_deuces

There is certainly something poetic about "draining the swamp" and "fixing government inefficiency", and then botching the restoration of a pool and seeing it re-infested with algae.

The company brought in to fix the new algae, on $1.7m no bid-contract, and owned by a major Trump donor - Green Water Solutions 😆



by thethethe

The company brought in to fix the new algae, on $1.7m no bid-contract, and owned by a major Trump donor - Green Water Solutions 😆

I did not know that. That certainly makes this case not merely poetic, but also symptomatic.

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