British Politics

British Politics

Been on holiday for a few weeks, surprised to find no general discussion of British politics so though I'd kick one off.

Tory leadership contest is quickly turning into farce. Trump has backed Boris, which should be reason enough for anyone with half a brain to exclude him.

Of the other candidates Rory Stewart looks the best of the outsiders. Surprised to see Cleverly and Javid not further up the betting, but not sure the Tory membership are ready for a brown PM.

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/bri...

Regarding the LD leadership contest, Jo Swinson is miles ahead of any other candidate (and indeed any of the Tory lot). Should be a shoe in.

Finally, it's Groundhog Day in Labour - the more serious the anti-Semitism claims get, the more Corbyn's cronies write their own obituary by blaming it on outlandish conspiracy theories - this week, it's apparently the Jewish Embassy's fault...

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And unemployment rising with very low or zero growth. Seems like a stagnant economy. Again.


Hahaha oh dear this is awkward.

Philp, you might remember, is the useful idiot the Tories wheel out onto TV to face questions when one of their MPs has done something egregiously wrong, and unlike the others he's too dim to claim he's busy:

A leading businesswoman who is married to the policing minister, Chris Philp, has been reported to the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) by a former employer and is being sued in the high court over allegations of corporate espionage.

Elizabeth Philp, 40, whose husband has called for “zero tolerance” to all crime, is accused of data-handling offences and unlawfully using confidential information from her former employer to set up a rival business.

Her former employer has accused her of having stored and retained “trade secrets” on a Dell XPS laptop computer that was not wiped before she left the company.

It is further claimed that, along with three other former London Specialist Pharmacy employees, Philp conspired to poach her former employer’s client lists for their new firm, leading to losses of approximately £1.5m.

In Philp’s defence and counterclaim, she denies the allegations and claims that a delay in carrying out a factory reset of her laptop was the result of being “fully involved in supporting her husband’s campaign as part of the 8 June 2017 general election”.


The Farage method of ensuring VFM:


Expert economists back Labour’s plan to end economic stagnation in UK

Nobel prize winners and former Bank of England officials believe Rachel Reeves and Keir Starmer can bring about ‘desperately needed’ change

Labour’s plans for ending Britain’s long-term economic stagnation have been backed by a group of leading economists, including three Nobel prize winners and a former Bank of England deputy governor.

In a boost to the shadow chancellor, Rachel Reeves, the 16 UK and internationally based economists said change was “desperately needed” after the policy mistakes and failures of the past 14 years since the Conservatives took power.

Reeves and the Labour leader, Keir Starmer, have been accused by the Conservatives of having no plan for the economy but, in a letter to the Guardian, the economists say Labour offers a “credible alternative”.

The letter’s signatories include the Nobel prize winners Joe Stiglitz, Sir Christopher Pissarides and Sir Angus Deaton, as well as Sir Charles Bean, a former deputy governor of the Bank of England.

Likely that pent up demand unmet by investment during what's been a long period of political uncertainty will be fulfilled once the Tories have been removed from government and Labour will claim credit, just as in the 1990s.




Matt Goodwin's polling company People Polling producing yet another outlier in favour of the far right. I expect by the date of the lection he'll have whittled it down to a hung Parliament.


Reform getting 169 seats is certainly a bold prediction.



FT article thinks raising 20-30Bn p.a. on the bond markets wouldn't cause any problems if it's for generating growth:


Just keeps getting bettor and bettor...



lol tories


Put away the sleeze for a second (and it's sleezy as hell), it's just so ****ing incredibly stupid. How did they think they'd get away with this?


by jalfrezi k

FT article thinks raising 20-30Bn p.a. on the bond markets wouldn't cause any problems if it's for generating growth:

I want my royalties. Referring back to truss. the problems with her 'politcs' was that the execution was amaterish to put it mildly and she was going to splurge the money on the rich like a luantic. she was howeve right aboutt he need to be radical and the markets will cope just fine if its well concieved and spent on necessary infrastructure or growth focused investments.

Labour adopting ultra consrvative fiscal rules is a disaster. The bonus catastrophic part of it is that money will get spent on important things but as illustarted by Boids, it will come in a form of PFI (by a different name or even outright denied). This will sustain labour for a while and some will cheer loudly but as the incentive period ends we will be even deeper in the hole.


by jalfrezi k

A very small subset, unless you subscribe to the 80 million Turks are coming to the UK mentality, which possibly you do.

But people being attracted to countries with higher GDP per capita has nothing to do with the point I was making.

Many people would leave the UK for the US if the were able to. Does that mean the UK are “bad people” because they’re from a poorer country? That was what being discussed before you decided to hop in with something irrelevant.

Wait, I thought "abroad" was a place so terrible that nobody could ever be sent back there?

Aren't the papers full of stories about people escaping from France in small boats?

by Luciom k

lol I just read Reform wrote a "contract with you" and I got reminded of Berlusconi doing the same in may 2001 ("contratto con gli italiani") on National television (when that mattered a lot)

apparently Gringich invented the meme in 1994 in the USA

Offering deals, pledges, and contracts has been around for a very long time, because "promises" are known to be worthless. FDR offered a "deal" in 1932 for example.


by LektorAJ k

Wait, I thought "abroad" was a place so terrible that nobody could ever be sent back there?.

The national front marches of fhe 70s and 80s can be heard echoing through your posts.

Aren’t you the guy who moved abroad yourself?


Tories gambling woes deepen...possible Streisand effect coming?

Tory candidate facing probe over election date betting allegations threatens to sue BBC 'over privacy rights'

Laura Saunders, the Conservative candidate being investigated by the Gambling Commission over election date betting allegations, has issued a statement saying she is cooperating with the inquiry. She also says she might sue the BBC over infringement of her privacy rights.

In a statement released on Saunders’ behalf, Nama Zarroug, a solicitor at Astraea Linskills, said:

As the Conservative party has already stated, investigations are ongoing.

Ms Saunders will be cooperating with the Gambling Commission and has nothing further to add.

It is inappropriate to conduct any investigation of this kind via the media, and doing so risks jeopardising the work of the Gambling Commission and the integrity of its investigation.

The publication of the BBC’s story is premature and is a clear infringement of Ms Saunders’ privacy rights. She is considering legal action against the BBC and any other publishers who infringe her privacy rights.

"Privacy rights"? As far as I'm aware we don't have privacy rights in the UK, merely a requirement for the media to ensure that publication is in the "public interest", which appears to be the case here.


There is a right to privacy in uk law. I seriously doubt she will win this one though.


by chezlaw k

There is a right to privacy in uk law. I seriously doubt she will win this one though.

i thought you lost it when you started saying pree-va-cy instead of pr-eye-va-cy


how I pronounce privacy is my own business


In terms of the right not to have someone filming you through your home windows for example, we have privacy laws.

In terms of the media it's another story which was a major reason why Murdoch decided to buy tabloids here.

It's all right though, because Sunak says he's "incredibly angry". LOL


The famous case was Naomi Campbell vs the mirror. She won. Them being the press didn't stop that

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campbell_v...


god forbid anyone take a few thousand quid off our precious bookmakers


by chezlaw k

The famous case was Naomi Campbell vs the mirror. She won. Them being the press didn't stop that

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campbell_v...

Under the European Convention on Human Rights, which Farage, Braverman, Badenoch etc are so keen to get rid of, yes. Otherwise, unlike say France, no extra privacy laws.


by BOIDS k

god forbid anyone take a few thousand quid off our precious bookmakers

A miss of BOIDSian proportions.

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