Climate Change - increasingly horrible disasters loom
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there is so much out there about this - I don't really need to provide a lot of sources - a quick google search will find you thousands of links
of course there are the climate change deniers
and there are those who say what little we can do won't be nearly enough
just one link:
from the article:
"Multiple studies published in peer-reviewed scientific journals show that 97 percent or more of actively publishing climate scientists agree*: Climate-warming trends over the past century are extremely likely due to human activities. In addition, most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position. "
couldn't resist one more link - story about Siberia, one of the coldest places on earth where there is human habitation - they now face 100 degree days and multiple wildfires caused by them
https://eos.org/articles/siberian-heat-w....
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Your comment is pure emptiness. You have nothing of substance to offer or any counter argument.
Does your username signify a hole in your head ? Or your heart ? Hole in wan's head is to empty out the brains and pour in the manure huh ?
Was it so uncomfortable to see the questions that I posed for Lucifer that you had to try and change the subject ? Why don't you let him answer for himself ? Or maybe you and Lucifer are the same person with multiple accounts ?
No, it's a not very clever pun on his previous user name "Juan Valdez", banned for egregious racism.
Last month was the world's warmest January on record raising further questions about the pace of climate change, scientists say.
January 2025 had been expected to be slightly cooler than January 2024 because of a shift away from a natural weather pattern in the Pacific known as El Niño.
But instead, last month broke the January 2024 record by nearly 0.1C, according to the European Copernicus climate service.
The world's warming is due to emissions of planet-heating gases from human activities - mainly the burning of fossil fuels - but scientists say they cannot fully explain why last month was particularly hot.
It continues a series of surprisingly large temperature records since mid-2023, with temperatures around 0.2C above what had been expected.
What do you care about Luciom ? Beside demonstration of how bitter and hateful you are .... what do you cherish in the world ? What do you love ? Who are your heroes ? What inspires you ? Wht brings you joy ?
Politically, Milei is probably the best example of what gives me hope .
I get joy from my family, friends, activities i like. A ton from food (both cooking and eating), sex, having good sleep, massages, very normal hedonistic pleasures of life.
Given i already am in a decent spot in life i care about guaranteeing the same for the people i care about, and to keep what i have (or marginally improve it) till i die.
Which politically means to defend against the relentless assaults made by people like you.
And being a healthy man, i do enjoy fighting. Both figuratively and literally.
At some point you will have to admit it's the ship fuel regulations ALONE that explain all the rapid recent increase. The guy in the other link you provided is one of those who started to admit a significant role of that. Slowly, consensus will have to admit reality, even if it's tragic for "activists".
Leftism (regulatory insanity) is causing the most rapid increase in temperature we had ever seen, which could actually become dangerous unlike the very slow pace of warming caused by CO2 emissions.
Luckly for us there is a solution, just go back using more sulfur in ship fuels so that the sea reflects the warm better. And we could use more than we did before to reduce warming even more.
But i don't see you guys asking to go back to sulfur in ship fuel so... we know you are in bad faith
At some point you will have to admit it's the ship fuel regulations ALONE that explain all the rapid recent increase. The guy in the other link you provided is one of those who started to admit a significant role of that. Slowly, consensus will have to admit reality, even if it's tragic for "activists".
Leftism (regulatory insanity) is causing the most rapid increase in temperature we had ever seen, which could actually become dangerous unlike the very slow pace of warming caused by CO2 emissions
Gotta love how you are slowly adjusting narrative here, is that some recent rethoric from the climate deniers?
New marching orders?
Yes I’ve noticed that too.
2000: The climate changes all the time and global warming is a hoax!
2010: Climate change does seem to be happening but saying it’s anthropogenic is part of the global leftist Marxist conspiracy!
2020: Ok, it might possibly be anthropogenic but it’s great news for new tomato growers in Northern Europe!
2025? Maybe we have a problem here but the woke global leftist Marxists are to blame for cleaning up the oceans!
Yes I’ve noticed that too.
2000: The climate changes all the time and global warming is a hoax!
2010: Climate change does seem to be happening but saying it’s anthropogenic is part of the global leftist Marxist conspiracy!
2020: Ok, it might possibly be anthropogenic but it’s great news for new tomato growers in Northern Europe!
2025? Maybe we have a problem here but the woke global leftist Marxists are to blame for cleaning up the oceans!
Conservatism has for the most part replaced reality with social media.
There isn't much to do about that. You certainly can't use social media to fix it, as engagement only makes this phenomena stronger. Also, it is not like climate change denial was not widespread before social media.
What we can do is to use what political power we do have to try and fix the situation. This probably won't work, but it is the only option that could improve things.
Should we somehow manage to scrape by with society largely intact, I'm sure people will fairly accepting towards punishing the people who steered us down the wrong path.
Conservatism has for the most part replaced reality with social media.
There isn't much to do about that. You certainly can't use social media to fix it, as engagement only makes this phenomena stronger. Also, it is not like climate change denial was not widespread before social media.
What we can do is to use what political power we do have to try and fix the situation. This probably won't work, but it is the only option that could improve things.
Should we somehow manage to scrape by with socie
Maybe you fail to realize that in europe, your side is losing elections (or winning with thinner margins) BECAUSE the people have enough of the "use of political power to fix the situation" wrt the climate.
No, that's not the reason, Luciom. Another really poor post.
No it's not immigrants, because where options on the left against immigrants exist, they got voted, but they all came with fewer green non sense as well.
The greens were butchered WITHIN leftist coalitions.
You can believe what you want personally from the left, but you can't deny that there are plenty center-left / leftist types that don't want their industrial bases to be annihilated and become non-existant like in the UK, which is what is going to happen in Germany for example if we don't reverse course with EU Regulation on green insanity
No it's not immigrants, because where options on the left against immigrants exist, they got voted, but they all came with fewer green non sense as well.
The greens were butchered WITHIN leftist coalitions.
You can believe what you want personally from the left, but you can't deny that there are plenty center-left / leftist types that don't want their industrial bases to be annihilated and become non-existant like in the UK, which is what is going to happen in Germany for example if we don't reve
Barring your tendency to go hysterical about the left and the woke, you aren't off the mark here.
The European left does not really have a history of being environmentalists, in large part due to its ties to the labor movement / unions. Groups that tend to oppose measures that, at least in the short term, negatively affect industry. They often have environmentalist-sounding language in their party platforms, and there is not much rejection of climate science. However, when it comes to their effective politics, not much is being done.
Thus environmentalist parties in Europe are often squeezed between "conservative" blocs that are outright climate-deniers, and leftist blocs that cater to unions which strongly oppose a lot of environmentalist policies.
Still, I wouldn't necessarily say they don't get anything done. Environmentalist parties know they will get annihilated when their policies pass. Environmentalism is popular in the planning stage and unpopular in the execution stage. This is because it is often disruptive, that is to say it necessitates a change in the status quo. Thus in the short term, it harms people.
In the grand scheme of things, I'd say the environmentalist parties of Europe has gotten amazing things out of their relatively small numbers in various parliaments simply out of their willingness to seek power in coalitions and use it.
I think if more parties were willing to put their ideology before election polls like the environmentalist parties do, this would be for the better.
Barring your tendency to go hysterical about the left and the woke, you aren't off the mark here.
The European left does not really have a history of being environmentalists, in large part due to its ties to the labor movement / unions. Groups that tend to oppose measures that, at least in the short term, negatively affect industry. They often have environmentalist-sounding language in their party platforms, and there is not much rejection of climate science. However, when it comes to their effec
As in working together and find compromises ?
How under valued are those things in todays democracies ain’t it ?
A multifaceted world doesn’t not exist in Luciom world .
Slowly but surely ?
https://www.euronews.com/next/2022/11/12...
Scientists in Switzerland have designed transparent solar panels that could make windows generate electricity.
Imagine a skyscraper with a well develop technology of this .
Maybe you fail to realize that in europe, your side is losing elections (or winning with thinner margins) BECAUSE the people have enough of the "use of political power to fix the situation" wrt the climate.
“The right thing to do “‘ is rarely popular in politics .
That is why debts are exploding .
So you seem very results oriented.
Trump won is another example …
As in working together and find compromises ?
How under valued are those things in todays democracies ain’t it ?
A multifaceted world doesn’t not exist in Luciom world .
Compromise has become largely synonymous with weakness in a lot of today's politics. Thus coalition politics are getting increasingly difficult to pass or garner support for.
Strategically, it makes sense. Compromise is easy to attack, because those who engage in it are often making ideological sacrifices. Thus for opposition, it is a sore to spot to exploit. In reality, it doesn't make all that much sense. It is difficult to even place a road crossing without making some sort of compromise, let alone pass policy that affect millions. However, these days an increasing amount of politics take place completely on social media, so reality is becoming increasingly irrelevant. You can just lie, which costs less politically than defending yourself.
Unfortunately, reality can only only be politically irrelevant in good times without crises. So, when the bad times come, there will be a price to pay.
Compromise has become largely synonymous with weakness in a lot of today's politics. Thus coalition politics are getting increasingly difficult to pass or garner support for.
Strategically, it makes sense. Compromise is easy to attack, because those who engage in it are often making ideological sacrifices. Thus for opposition, it is a sore to spot to exploit. In reality, it doesn't make all that much sense. It is difficult to even place a road crossing without making some sort of compromise, l
The problem we have with climate change and other environmental poisoning is that nature doesn't compromise.
Humans are simultaneously part of nature and subordinate to it. If we want to get into a game of chicken with nature, our adversary will not blink.
We need to bend the knee to natural law or get crushed.
The problem we have with climate change and other environmental poisoning is that nature doesn't compromise.
Humans are simultaneously part of nature and subordinate to it. If we want to get into a game of chicken with nature, our adversary will not blink.
We need to bend the knee to natural law or get crushed.
I would agree with the gist of your post, that we can't escape physical reality and the limitations of our world, its ecosystem(s) and our biology.
That said, throughout history we have continuously bent and shaped nature to our will through the use of tools and intellect. However, in the past the scale of this was on such a small scope compared to the sheer size of this planet, that mistakes and ignorant miscalculation had limited impact overall. So while there isn't a shortage of civilizations that eradicated themselves wholly or partially through poor understanding of their environment, these impacts were simply too limited to be global threats. That isn't to say that such miscalculations can't be problematic on a grand scale, there are many interesting case studies to that effect.
These days, it is not so simple. On several fronts, we are threatening ecosystems at a global level.
Compromise has become largely synonymous with weakness in a lot of today's politics. Thus coalition politics are getting increasingly difficult to pass or garner support for.
Strategically, it makes sense. Compromise is easy to attack, because those who engage in it are often making ideological sacrifices. Thus for opposition, it is a sore to spot to exploit. In reality, it doesn't make all that much sense. It is difficult to even place a road crossing without making some sort of compromise, l
Compromises -> being pragmatic
Ideology -> being stupid .
This is where we are in politics
Populism -> compromises are weakness
( I’m not saying you are or do but your analysis seem correct to me )
Compromises -> being pragmatic
Ideology -> being stupid .
This is where we are in politics
Populism -> compromises are weakness
( I’m not saying you are or do but your analysis seem correct to me )
Yes, I think those can be outcomes that we often see in today's politics.
However, one shouldn't deny that while compromises can lead to pragmatic solutions, they can also lead to weak implementations or even sabotaged policy. Similarly, being staunchly ideological can lead to you to refuse politics that would allow you to reach at least parts of your goals, but it can also represent a principled stance or objection. And while populism has seemingly few good upsides, it is a way for the disenfranchised to object to a political system that has become accustomed to ignoring them.
The world is a messy place, where simplified analysis often leave a lot to be desired.
However, ignoring reality is never a good thing. It can be politically advantageous, but it is the political equivalent of buying luxury on credit. The bills will eventually come.
