Israel/Palestine thread
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Also happens all the time that films are renewed, but not in this case.
Right. Looks like Netflix looked at the cost to renew, how many people watched and would watch if they renewed and made a business decision like they always do. The studios or whoever owns the rights could let them continue for free, but why would they? Palestinian filmakers are in the business also.
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What’s even the conspiracy here? They could have taken them down anytime they wanted after the attacks or during the war if they were getting heat, which it looks like they weren’t. The films came down exactly when their license expired. None of the filmmakers or studios are suggesting anything untoward just twitter morons.
Not getting heat after the attacks? They were getting heat before the attacks.
Palestine has a rich history of cultural resistance against Israeli occupation and military aggression in the form of movies, literature, and artwork.
Iconic Palestinian films that have drawn international acclaim include Elia Suleiman’s film Divine Intervention, Hany Abu-Assad’s Academy Award nominee Paradise Now and Annemarie Jacir’s Salt of this Sea.
Yet it is only within the past few years that streaming platforms, such as Netflix, have included Palestinian works in their catalogues in a significant number. So why now?
Any previous reluctance on the part of streaming platforms may have been down to the promptness with which movies critical of Israel were labelled antisemitic by pro-Israel groups.
Yeah so much heat they did nothing. Congrats on finding someone on the internet claiming other people are mad about something though. By those standards Netflix got heat over Oppenheimer and everything else they’ve shown.
Also a bakery.
Turkey sucks.
The Democratic Federation of Northern and Eastern Syria didn't do anything, but the PKK attacked a defense contractor (Turkish Aerospace Industries) in Turkey.
I think Turkey is much worse than Israel, but even if you find them equivalent, I think it is interesting to juxtapose how disinterested the world is in creating a Kurdistan, relative to Palestine. And how much less violence there is overall, because the world is not funding and enabling violence (on both sides) the way it is in the Israel-Palestine situation.
No one is giving the Kurds thousands of rockets to aim at the "occupiers" of Turkey, Syria and Iraq; telling those countries to let the Kurds do so, and then when a war invariably starts, supply both sides with weapons.
Yeah so much heat they did nothing. Congrats on finding someone on the internet claiming other people are mad about something though. By those standards Netflix got heat over Oppenheimer and everything else they’ve shown.
They have done something. Cancelling them before the end of the licence would have been quite revealing, don't you think?
Netflix
about Palestinians. Mustn't humanize them.
Always the victim.
Maybe if there was a little less Jihad and Intifada these films would be more popular. Obviously Netflix realizes that no one is watching these films. Also, I'd suggest making better films. Clearly these weren't that good or they would still be there.
I think Turkey is much worse than Israel, but even if you find them equivalent, I think it is interesting to juxtapose how disinterested the world is in creating a Kurdistan, relative to Palestine. And how much less violence there is overall, because the world is not funding and enabling violence (on both sides) the way it is in the Israel-Palestine situation.
No one is giving the Kurds thousands of rockets to aim at the "occupiers" of Turkey, Syria and Iraq; telling those countries to let the K
Dunno how interested "the world" is, but Kurdish majority areas in Northern Iraq and Syria are at least somewhat autonomous.
Turkey is more autocratic than Israel, but Kurds in Turkey are citizens. There are mainstream Kurdish political parties. So, this is like being an Arab citizen in Isreal, there is discrimination, but you are free to work and travel and live at least in most places. But, there is no occupied territory that I'm aware of. I believe a Kurd in the Kurdish areas of Turkey is free to move to Istanbul and do pretty much what any other Turkish citizen is free to do. So, Israel is worse in that regard.
Turkey has had a very very aggressive and successful lobby to stop criticism of Turkey. It's as hard for a politician to say the words "Armenian Genocide" as it is for them to call Taiwan a country or call for a Palestinian state. Sweden capitulated to Turkish demands to investigate and police Kurdish immigrants in return for their vote to allow Sweden into NATO. Turkish secret police have attacked demonstrators for Kurdish rights in the USA.
Always the victim.
Maybe if there was a little less Jihad and Intifada these films would be more popular. Obviously Netflix realizes that no one is watching these films. Also, I'd suggest making better films. Clearly these weren't that good or they would still be there.
Netflix got massacred for wokism losing approx 2/3 of it's stock price in early 2022. They moved toward the center after realizing that they can't pander to extremists politically and still make the most they can. They got rewarded by being at all-time-high values currently.
Content that is found to be horrifyingly immoral by paying customers will be pushed against by them and given a company exclusive moral (and legal) considerations are towards stockholders, they have a moral (and legal) mandate to operate toward maximizing their profit.
Netflix got massacred for wokism losing approx 2/3 of it's stock price in early 2022. They moved toward the center after realizing that they can't pander to extremists politically and still make the most they can. They got rewarded by being at all-time-high values currently.
Content that is found to be horrifyingly immoral by paying customers will be pushed against by them and given a company exclusive moral (and legal) considerations are towards stockholders, they have a moral (and legal) mandat
I think many companies are ditching the "woke" material due to extreme backlash. I think also they don't want too much terrorist related material in circulation. I've noticed that shows that have to do with ISIS or Al Qaeda have been held to a minimum. It could also be that Netflix has a lot of Jewish higher ups who don't want to allow this propaganda on their streaming service.
lol Netflix’s Alexander the Great show was blasted for being to woke this year as stock reached all time high. Conservatives without careers or anything better to do will always complain about wokeness until a new buzz word comes along for the sheep to repeat.
Not being educated is one thing but lol at just making up facts.
You’re shocked that someone expressing unhinged bigotry didn’t bother to know the facts? Those moves are no longer there because Netflix bought the rights to show them for a certain period and that time ran out. Happens all the time.
It's not the type of issue I could be arsed researching. My response was in reply to a post that implied something dark and nefarious was going on by netflix. And lol at "unhinged bigotry".
Seems quite racist to condemn films made by Palestinians on the grounds that they might promote a specific political dogma without at least googling them first, almost as if Palestinians don't have the individual agency you grant to other human beings.
I'm not interested in your opinion of me. You've utilised known anti Semitic tropes in the past by linking tweets making Auschwitz comparisons to the IDF and indeed had it deleted by the mods, so again not interested in your opinion of me, but will helpfully remind you the old adage re stones being hurled in glass houses. And Palestinians aren't a race.
Support for Palestine is like the opposite of wokeism
Netflix got massacred for wokism losing approx 2/3 of it's stock price in early 2022. They moved toward the center after realizing that they can't pander to extremists politically and still make the most they can. They got rewarded by being at all-time-high values currently.
Content that is found to be horrifyingly immoral by paying customers will be pushed against by them and given a company exclusive moral (and legal) considerations are towards stockholders, they have a moral (and legal) mandat
Worst business analysis I’ve ever seen. How are you a professional stock trader? Their stock started going up when they cracked down on password sharing.
And like others in this thread, there’s a 99% chance the films lapsed for completely mundane reasons like they lost the rights to the films. They didn’t lose the rights to rounders because they are so against poker. Likely what happened is because of the I/G war there was some increased demand for those movies or something. This is completely spitballing but that’s way more likely to be the answer than some genocidal crackdown on Palestinian creators or whatever bs.
Lol yes you have a worldview that can’t really be falsified and anything that happens or does not happen will be evidence for it.
Your worldview is no different in this respect. The real difference is that donkey party voters such as yourself absorb and uncritically regurgitate mainstream propaganda while others try to think for themselves.
Worst business analysis I’ve ever seen. How are you a professional stock trader? Their stock started going up when they cracked down on password sharing.
And like others in this thread, there’s a 99% chance the films lapsed for completely mundane reasons like they lost the rights to the films. They didn’t lose the rights to rounders because they are so against poker. Likely what happened is because of the I/G war there was some increased demand for those movies or something. This is completely sp
You are wrong.
The passwrong sharing crackdown was in may 2023
https://www.techradar.com/news/netflix-p....
Stock peaked close to 700$ in october 2021, bottomed under 200$ in may 2022.
That was when the war against wokism peaked against other companies as well.
It currently sits at approx 750$.
Your worldview is no different in this respect. The real difference is that donkey party voters such as yourself absorb and uncritically regurgitate mainstream propaganda while others try to think for themselves.
Nah if they removed it mid contract or said we are not renewing because of politics I would agree it was political. Even if someone associated with these films said it was that would be some evidence. Literally nothing can happen that would convince you it was apolitical. That’s what unfalsifiable means.
Worst business analysis I’ve ever seen. How are you a professional stock trader? Their stock started going up when they cracked down on password sharing.
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Meta crashed in first half of 2022 amid a broader tech sell off and concerns the metaverse was just lighting money on fire, now it’s near all time highs. They must have been too woke and now aren’t. Tesla had a massive sell off in 2022 aalso and still hasn’t reached near its all time high. Dam their wokeness.
Turns out all of these companies faced headwinds in 2022 (Netflix from massive growth in other streaming services like Disney) amid a broader tech sell off and got pummeled. Happens all the time with high beta stocks.
Meta crashed in first half of 2022 amid a broader tech sell off and concerns the metaverse was just lighting money on fire, now it’s near all time highs. They must have been too woke and now aren’t. Tesla had a massive sell off in 2022 aalso and still hasn’t reached near its all time high. Dam their wokeness.
Turns out all of these companies faced headwinds in 2022 (Netflix from massive growth in other streaming services like Disney) amid a broader tech sell off and got pummeled. Happens all the
Many companies pivoted against wokeness recently yes. Zuckenberg admitted that he made a mistake to censor during covid for example
lol yeah. The whole SP500 and QQQ along with Tesla crashed in 2022 because of wokeness. I would think this is a parody of anti woke morons if the actual anti woke mob online weren’t typically just as insane and stupid.
lol yeah. The whole SP500 and QQQ along with Tesla crashed in 2022 because of wokeness. I would think this is a parody of anti woke morons if the actual anti woke mob online weren’t typically just as insane and stupid.
No they didn't. But some specific names did, and the catalyzer was BUD which is still lower than pre-covid (which is insane given how the market went overall). And you know that, but you feel the need to deny that because you can't admit some companies did exceed in wokeness and paid a big price for it and so on.
