Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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The UN is requiring that they have full access to Israel camps to investigate Israel as well. We all know they will determine that Israel is committing crimes and that there will be no evidence hamas did and then Victor will say see i was right
So Israel doesn't want to hear Victor falsely say he was right for the 100th time in a day so they decided to just not allow them to investigate at all
Tying the investigation to visiting Israeli nations
Jails tracks with the typical MO A OF THE corrupt UN
cant let the UN visit bc we are abusing the prisoners so much that we would get in trouble is not really an absolving argument.
I didnt raise the claim, Israeli media did.
to sum up the previous 1,100 pages and save time reading the next 832:
1. Israel is abusing and raping prisoners.
2. Israel is trying to kill all Palestinians and drive the few they cant out of Gaza.
3. Israel is trying to occupy Lebanon and Syria.
4. IDF soldiers are murdering civilians and shooting kids in the head.
Now you can copy and paste this post to save us all time
The Israeli media is biased against Israel?
I dont expect you to follow the main stream Israeli media or getting your facts from them.
but at least dont make pretend that you actually follow or believe the Israeli media.
https://henryjacksonsociety.org/wp-conte...
https://henryjacksonsociety.org/publicat...
7. Conclusion Our investigation into the Hamas-run Gaza Ministry of Health’s fatality reports during the conflict reveals widespread inaccuracies and distortion in the data collection process. These distortions primarily result from flawed methodologies, including reliance on media reports and incomplete family submissions and the inclusion of non-conflict-related deaths such as natural causes and accidental fatalities. The MoH, operating under Hamas, the perpetrators of the 7 October massacre in Israel, has systematically inflated the death toll by failing to distinguish between civilian and combatant deaths, over-reporting fatalities among women and children and even including individuals who died before the conflict began. This distortion of data not only creates a misleading picture of the conflict but also raises significant concerns about the credibility of the numbers being reported across the world. The global media’s uncritical acceptance and dissemination of these unreliable figures has compounded the issue, shaping public opinion and international discourse on the conflict in ways that may not reflect the reality on the ground. Many media outlets fail to scrutinise the sources of the fatality data, often presenting the MoH figures as authoritative without question. This has led to a narrative where the IDF is portrayed as disproportionately targeting civilians, while the actual numbers suggest a significant proportion of the dead are combatants. This lack of transparency and clear attempts to inflate the civilian death toll further erode the credibility of the reporting. Our investigation found numerous statistical anomalies in the MoH’s fatality lists, including significant daily increases in the reported deaths of women and children that are mathematically impossible. Furthermore, the inclusion of natural deaths in war-related fatality counts, the erroneous categorisation of men as women and children, and the failure to account for deaths caused by internal Palestinian violence or misfired rockets from Gaza have all contributed to inflated and misleading numbers. This report highlights the broader implications of such data distortion. International Humanitarian Law requires that warring parties take measures to minimise civilian harm, but the distortion of fatality data undermines efforts to assess compliance with these laws. The absence of credible data also hampers international responses, humanitarian aid efforts and peace negotiations. Without accurate and reliable figures, it becomes nearly impossible to understand the full scope of the conflict’s impact or to hold parties accountable for their actions. While it is crucial to acknowledge the suffering and loss of life in Gaza, the uncritical repetition of unverified fatality figures serves to obscure the truth rather than illuminate it. The MoH’s fatality reports, in their current form, should not be treated as definitive, nor should they be used as the primary basis for international discourse on the conflict. This situation calls for a more measured approach in reporting and analysis, one that critically examines sources of information and distinguishes between legitimate and manipulated data. Responsible reporting requires more than simply relaying numbers. It demands a critical assessment of the data, an understanding of the context and a commitment to accuracy. The international media plays a crucial role in shaping global perceptions of the conflict. Only by approaching these figures with a critical eye can the media help uncover the truth behind the war’s human cost, ensuring that the true nature of the conflict is represented in the international arena.
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The Hamas ministry has misconstrued and lied about the Gaza death numbers throughout
3. Israel is trying to occupy Lebanon and Syria.
they are not trying. they are literally occupying both places. they certainly arent going to give up the Syrian land they stole either.
I never heard even of this publication before you started to repost from them
I already wrote which are the main stream media outlets in Israel, including newspapers, online media and TV.
as everything with you is just re-post, ill oblige.
TV: 11, 12, 13 and sadly 14 is close to becoming mainstream.
Online: NRG, Mako, Walla, Ynet and maybe Rotter.net
Newspapers: Yediot, Maariv, Israel hayom and way way behind Haaretz.
there are obv some other niche outlets. but those are what is considered mainstream
Just to drive the point home:
this is The times of Israel Wikipedia hebrew page:
this is Yediot Wikipedia hebew page:
Understand the difference?
its still Israeli media.
regardless, I have posted plenty of links from ynet and mako.
so do you believe Mako and Ynet and all they report?
I dont believe anything that anyone reports. I apply critical thinking.
to sum up the previous 1,100 pages and save time reading the next 832:
1. Israel is abusing and raping prisoners.
2. Israel is trying to kill all Palestinians and drive the few they cant out of Gaza.
3. Israel is trying to occupy Lebanon and Syria.
4. IDF soldiers are murdering civilians and shooting kids in the head.
Now you can copy and paste this post to save us all time
Guess those crazy kids with bullet holes in their heads just lost games of Russian Roulette.
Suckers!
to sum up the previous 1,100 pages and save time reading the next 832:
1. Israel is abusing and raping prisoners.
2. Israel is trying to kill all Palestinians and drive the few they cant out of Gaza.
3. Israel is trying to occupy Lebanon and Syria.
4. IDF soldiers are murdering civilians and shooting kids in the head.
Now you can copy and paste this post to save us all time
You forgot they control the media, Hollywood, and the banks!




